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April 16th, 2018, 7:56 am #21

From the NCAA site, rule on transfers:

Academic year in residence: Under the basic transfer regulations, you must spend an academic year in residence at the school to which you are transferring. If you transfer from a four-year college to an NCAA school, you must complete one academic year in residence at the new school before you can play for or receive travel expenses from the new school, unless you qualify for a transfer exception or waiver. To satisfy an academic year in residence, you must be enrolled in and successfully complete a full-time program of studies for two-full semesters or three-full quarters. Summer school terms and part-time enrollment do not count toward fulfilling an academic year in residence.

More info on the stop at a JC (making this a 4-2-4 transfer)

4-2-4 transfers in Division I must meet the following academic requirements to be eligible to compete immediately after transferring to the second four-year school:
  • Complete an average of 12 hours of transferable degree credit per term of full-time attendance at the junior college;
  • Earn at least a 2.000 GPA in those transferable courses;
  • Have at least one calendar year elapse since leaving the original four-year school; and
  • Graduate from the junior college
Therefore, the player in question, if he completed 12+ hours at the JC, and graduated could be eligible one year after he left his original school. This appear to be why he is eligible at the break.
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April 16th, 2018, 1:24 pm #22

Charlie Hill Cannot Score wrote:
Ivy Drip wrote:
gauchodan wrote:

Then how are you to say that he has 3 seasons of eligibility left?

Medical redshirts don't work that way, methinks.  If it's granted, you're eligible the next season.  The entire season.
I don't think I explained this well, so I'll do it again ... McLaughlin played one full season at Oregon State, and was a couple of games into his sophomore year when he got hurt. He didn't play the rest of the year and, in fact, left school in December and went to a JC in his home state while opening up his recruiting. He will be enrolling in UCSB for summer school with three years of eligibility remaining, but NCAA rules say he must sit out the fall quarter ... He can begin playing after final exams are completed next December, and he will have that season plus two more.
Ami Lakoju played a few games one year, before having a medical emergency and sitting out the remainder of the season. He returned the next year and did not have to sit out a quarter, playing in the first game. He’ll be playing his 5th year next season.

Looks like McLaughlin played in a few more games, and for a considerably more minutes. Perhaps there is a threshold. He’s also transferring, so maybe that’s an additional consideration for the NCAA.


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Ivy, you can't say he has 3 years of eligibility remaining AND he has to sit the fall quarter.  If he has to sit the fall quarter, than he would have 2 1/2 years of eligibility remaining...having used up half of a year in playing the first game of 2017-18 at Oregon State.

But you also previously stated he was petitioning for a medical hardship. If granted, that would wipe out the game he played at Oregon State. In effect, his sophomore season would start over and he would have the 3 years of eligibility. Which means he could play the fall quarter at UCSB.

I believe this is how the NCAA would interpret it.  You have 5 years to play 4.  He has played 1 year, and he's petitioning to have the 2nd one wiped out.  He will thus have sat the one year required of a transfer, concurrent with the medical hardship waiver.
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April 16th, 2018, 5:26 pm #23

That seems right:

1. If transferring, then yes he has to sit out the 1st quarter
2. If medical redshirt, he 'didn't play' last year and is immediately eligible. 

Which fits Ami's case as well. 
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April 16th, 2018, 8:37 pm #24

Think about it.  McLaughlin is transferring.  He has to be at the new school a year, unless he does the Sparky method and plants himself at a JC first.  Which he did.  So he should be eligible at the beginning of the winter quarter, per Drip.

But we have this story that he is applying for a medical hardship.  What's the point of doing that, if he's still not eligible until the winter quarter?

I think it's because he gets that quarter back...and is immediately eligible at UCSB.
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April 16th, 2018, 10:07 pm #25

gauchodan wrote: Think about it.  McLaughlin is transferring.  He has to be at the new school a year, unless he does the Sparky method and plants himself at a JC first.  Which he did.  So he should be eligible at the beginning of the winter quarter, per Drip.

But we have this story that he is applying for a medical hardship.  What's the point of doing that, if he's still not eligible until the winter quarter?

I think it's because he gets that quarter back...and is immediately eligible at UCSB.
You're making my head hurt! Here's what Coach P is saying: McLaughlin won't be able to play until December, per NCAA transfer rules, and he will be a sophomore eligibility wise, not a junior. Why? I have no clue, but I would assume Coach P does. And it's more like 2 2/3 seasons, not 2 1/2.
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April 17th, 2018, 5:26 am #26

Ivy Drip wrote:
gauchodan wrote: Think about it.  McLaughlin is transferring.  He has to be at the new school a year, unless he does the Sparky method and plants himself at a JC first.  Which he did.  So he should be eligible at the beginning of the winter quarter, per Drip.

But we have this story that he is applying for a medical hardship.  What's the point of doing that, if he's still not eligible until the winter quarter?

I think it's because he gets that quarter back...and is immediately eligible at UCSB.
You're making my head hurt! Here's what Coach P is saying: McLaughlin won't be able to play until December, per NCAA transfer rules, and he will be a sophomore eligibility wise, not a junior. Why? I have no clue, but I would assume Coach P does. And it's more like 2 2/3 seasons, not 2 1/2.
It's not that hard. Either he's eligible in November or December. If he's eligible in November, he was approved for the medical hardship. If he's eligible in December, he wasn't.
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April 17th, 2018, 8:44 am #27

gauchodan wrote:
Ivy Drip wrote:
gauchodan wrote: Think about it.  McLaughlin is transferring.  He has to be at the new school a year, unless he does the Sparky method and plants himself at a JC first.  Which he did.  So he should be eligible at the beginning of the winter quarter, per Drip.

But we have this story that he is applying for a medical hardship.  What's the point of doing that, if he's still not eligible until the winter quarter?

I think it's because he gets that quarter back...and is immediately eligible at UCSB.
You're making my head hurt! Here's what Coach P is saying: McLaughlin won't be able to play until December, per NCAA transfer rules, and he will be a sophomore eligibility wise, not a junior. Why? I have no clue, but I would assume Coach P does. And it's more like 2 2/3 seasons, not 2 1/2.
It's not that hard. Either he's eligible in November or December. If he's eligible in November, he was approved for the medical hardship. If he's eligible in December, he wasn't.
Then he wasn't, because UCSB is saying that he ain't playing until December.
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April 18th, 2018, 2:59 pm #28

Looks like Coach David Patrick picked up a New Zealand commit. 
7'1" Callum McRae.  I think UCSB was showed some interest.
He played for NZ national team.

HC Patrick is doing some good work in Riverside picking up some talent for the next year.
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April 20th, 2018, 4:32 pm #29

GauchoSoul wrote: Looks like Coach David Patrick picked up a New Zealand commit. 
7'1" Callum McRae.  I think UCSB was showed some interest.
He played for NZ national team.

HC Patrick is doing some good work in Riverside picking up some talent for the next year.
UCR also just signed a 6'7" SF from Texas, whom ESPN rated a 3 star player, ranking him 24th in the state.
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April 21st, 2018, 11:16 am #30

GauchoSoul wrote: Looks like Coach David Patrick picked up a New Zealand commit. 
7'1" Callum McRae.  I think UCSB was showed some interest.
He played for NZ national team.

HC Patrick is doing some good work in Riverside picking up some talent for the next year.
It’s definitely not quiet in Riverside, and as you said, Coach Patrick is putting in work. Elkaz, McRae and Watson have signed, and he has received commitments from former Texas Tech signee Daniel Mading and UTSA transfer George Willborn.

On paper, Riverside is going to have a whole lot more talent than seasons prior. Mading was a 4-Star recruit and Watson is considered a 3-star, but more importantly, there’s good balance in the signings. DJ McDonald is a true point guard, Elkaz is an outside threat, Willborn is a tough combo guard in the Chance Murray mold, Watson an undersized Taylor Johns type forward, Mading a stretch-4 and freak athlete, and McRae is a 7’2” behemoth.

You throw in Dikymbe Martin, DJ Sylvester, Ajani Kennedy, Menno Dijkstra and you’ve got a decent looking squad, imo.
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