Use PERMUTATIONS to maximize free rebids!!!

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Colfax30
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Joined: 29 Apr 2002, 05:57

22 Aug 2006, 19:01 #21

Well now this thread IS thumbtacked, Bill, and in "Member Announcements", where you wanted it.

I guess there are still wizards working here, behind the curtains. Image
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Virageadroit
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Joined: 31 Jul 2002, 01:00

04 Sep 2006, 16:58 #22

One obvious caution about free re-bids. There is a certain value at being rejected when you have bid as much as you think is fair. The fact that you can continue bidding because of the free re-bid is seen by some as opportunity to keep playing the game and raising the stake - just like gambling - beyond the price that makes sense. Sticking to the plan will win for you.
Here is an obvious but necessary strategic approach for the use of free re-bids using the permutation method.
1) Establish the highest price you are willing to offer and the star level of that offer. Do not exceed it. Is your objective to get the best price within $10? $5? $1. This will affect your strategy and where you start from. You have to choose some number to decide on your increment.
2) Calculate how many possible bids there using the permutation method. Remember that this is only safe at the highest level in the zone because of Priceline's option to upgrade without notice. Also check on Priceline each day you use this to make sure the free re-bid zones have not changed. Write down the combinations.
3) Decide the increase strategy (the same increment with every bid or some more complex forumla - such as, starting very low and increasing by $5 or $10 until you are nearly where you want to be then decrease the increment). Work out the whole thing in advance and write it out. Then mark off each bid by amount and zone and keep it.
4) Write down the date and outcome.
5) Post the successful bid and strategy on the proper forum in this board.
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markf57
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Joined: 24 Feb 2002, 12:43

29 Oct 2006, 01:54 #23

I wonder how long it will be until one of you smart guys hires out a programmer to create a program to auto bid (using the AB link), using the permutation method of bidding.

Thanks,

Mark
Thanks,

Mark
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IJK
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Joined: 18 Jun 2003, 06:57

14 Apr 2007, 19:33 #24

I've tried to 'look ahead' to see what star level hotels are in what zone,
but the new "NOW FASTER AND EASIER" page combines all the
steps on one page, and seems to prevent the use of the free rebid
method. I have not found the "classic" bid process, or any other way
around this.

Any suggestions? Thanks.
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IJK
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Joined: 18 Jun 2003, 06:57

14 Apr 2007, 19:40 #25

I found the answer to my own question.

Use Internet Explorer instead of Netscape.
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KeenWink
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Joined: 05 Jun 2004, 03:48

14 Apr 2007, 20:35 #26

IJK, following up on your finding, Firefox is about the only browser that I've found to work correctly with Priceline for the Mac platform.

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edit: This information is, of course, plainly stated in our Hotel FAQ, which we encourage everyone to review from time to time. {I forgot it was there!} Image
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Verveine
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007, 10:52

10 Jul 2007, 04:05 #27

verkuilb -

THANK YOU SO MUCH for explaining permutational bidding! I read your original post ("Use PERMUTATIONS to maximize free rebids!!!"), followed the directions very carefully, and was able to get the area and star level I wanted at a reasonable price. I have been bidding at Priceline for years, but the method you explain is much, much, MUCH better!!!
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Travel dork
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Joined: 18 Jul 2007, 05:24

17 Jul 2007, 22:24 #28

I just found your site and appreciate all the great information. I have been using this advanced technique intuitively for many years and was happy to find a concise explanation. I think there is another feature that allows you to gain more free bids. I had been trying for 2 rooms in the Anaheim (disneyland area) for our family. I had my name for room 1 and my wife for room 2. After exhausting all my bids for the target area, I swapped the names for room 1 and 2 and started again. This time I got the room for my incrementally higher bid. Did I somehoe get lucky and trick the wait period or is this another way to "beat the system"?
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verkuilb
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Joined: 10 Aug 2002, 10:46

24 Jul 2007, 15:43 #29

Travel dork, I'm not sure about that one. From my understanding of Priceline rules and guidelines, it shouldn't have worked.

My best guess is that one of the following happened:
a) Priceline was experiencing bugs that inadvertently allowed it,
b) Priceline has recently changed their rules to allow this,
c) My understanding of the Priceline rules was incorrect all along, and what you did always has been acceptable,
d) You violated (either intentionally or inadvertently) one of Priceline's (and BFT's) guidelines, and managed to not get caught yet (although if this is the case, and PL finds out about it, I wouldn't be surprised if your "winning" bid may yet be voided), or
e) What actually happened was something other than what you've reported, and you've simply misunderstood it, and consequently misreported it.

If I assume that what happened isn't option d), I may need to test this the next time I'm bidding for multiple rooms, just to see if it truly works as you indicate!
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KeenWink
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Joined: 05 Jun 2004, 03:48

24 Jul 2007, 22:45 #30

Sometimes Priceline's system just messes up and lets you place a second bid. I don't know when or why, it seems to be random, but I've won rooms on occasion when, in retrospect, my offer should have been kicked back as a duplicate. Like everything, I guess PL's computers aren't perfect!
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