PRICELINE PERMUTATIONS MATRICES for free re-bids

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AGuyNamedSteve
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Joined: 18 Feb 2003, 13:28

01 Mar 2014, 20:44 #41

OK - I guess I was confused as to what you're here for.
I thought this site was to assist and educate travelers on how take advantage of the Priceline's loop hole in their bidding structure to get multiple rebids within a 24 hour period in order to get the lowest price that would be accepted for a room. And that permutation bidding was just an extension of this (for example the first post in this thread showing a matrix for one acceptable zone + permutation rebidding of 6 rebid zones = 65 total bids). I didn't realize that extending this to three more zones would be taking an unacceptable amount of advantage of this loop hole within the loop hole promoted by the site.
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Sheryl
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Joined: 16 Jan 2000, 16:19

01 Mar 2014, 20:48 #42

I very much disagree with you, tilepusher, for the reason I previously stated. Yes, free re-bids in general are a loophole. Excessive permutations are definitely overkill as long as you bid based on current rate info. People are always trying to substantiate why they don't need to do their rate research which is the most important aspect of a bidding strategy, not the loopholes.
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AGuyNamedSteve
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01 Mar 2014, 21:07 #43

Thanks tilepusher - my response must have been while you were posting yours.
Ultimately, I don't know that I'll need more than what I have - it all goes down to how much time I want to commit to rebidding and at what precise of bid increase. But I do like not being limited to 9 rebids, so the permutation method will help.
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Sheryl
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Joined: 16 Jan 2000, 16:19

01 Mar 2014, 21:19 #44

AGuyNamedSteve wrote:
OK - I guess I was confused as to what you're here for.
I thought this site was to assist and educate travelers on how take advantage of the Priceline's loop hole in their bidding structure to get multiple rebids within a 24 hour period in order to get the lowest price that would be accepted for a room. And that permutation bidding was just an extension of this (for example the first post in this thread showing a matrix for one acceptable zone + permutation rebidding of 6 rebid zones = 65 total bids). I didn't realize that extending this to three more zones would be taking an unacceptable amount of advantage of this loop hole within the loop hole promoted by the site.
I have never been a proponent of permutational bidding when you have more than enough free re-bid zones and you do your necessary rate research.  The only time I even suggest permutation bidding is when there are only two free re-bid zones.  What you are proposing is definitely beyond taking advantage.  Our goal has never been to put Priceline out of business.  It's to get a good deal.  If your definitition of a good deal is intentioanally stripping Priceline of all profit, No that's not what we're here for.

If you go back through this topic, you won't see much or any participation from me.  In fact, I even cocnsidered removing this topic when it was first posted but I didn't because I knew it would cause an outroar of our users.
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tilepusher
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Joined: 25 Apr 2007, 01:11

02 Mar 2014, 03:37 #45

I use this method almost all the time, so I'm not in a position to tell others not to. But I fail to see the need to make lists for more than 6 free rebid zones (if you have more free rebid zones, you can just pick six of them and use the permutation method on those). That already gives you 64 bids; if you're even close to needing that many bids, you seriously need to rethink your bidding methods. Like Sheryl, I don't endorse brute force methods of bidding. Not because I have a moral or ethical issue with it, but because the methods we use (and teach) get better results in less time. The permutation method is time consuming because you have to start a lot of new bids; putting in more than 64 bids would take hours. And researching is superior not just because it gives you a better idea where to start, but it also gives you a better idea of when to stop. A frequent cause of overbidding is continuing to go up when it would be better to wait for a better deal.
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