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Archive - Yahoo forum posts, 2009 September

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BASEBALLGAMES FORUM 2009 September, Messages 5503 - 5548
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Message #5503 Tue Sep 1, 2009 2:37 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Deleting members with inert e-mail addresses

Hiya fellers! Apologies here for harping on this, especially as it applies to only a tiny minority of
the members signed in here, but we did want to give those few folks one last opportunity...

As veteran members of the forum/e-list may have already guessed, we're referring to what appear,
due to invalid e-mail addresses, to be inert or extinct memberships. We don't want to give the boot
to anyone who's actually an active lurker, which is to say people who look in frequently but never post.
We've got nothing against lurkers. We love lurkers. Shoot, we're lurkers on several other forums
and message boards ourselves! But we've mentioned this in some detail before -- oh, only about
every single month for the past three or four years, not that anyone ever reads our monthly
"Baseballgames Update" messages, even though they're The Most Important News you can get anywhere...

Anyway, the point, of course, is that we do, every few months, clean out memberships that appear
to have been abandoned. We're about to do it again, so please, do make sure your Yahoo membership
has you registered/subscribed with a currently active e-mail address. We've sent out plenty of automated
"reactivation requests" that have either bounced back from extinct addresses or from overfilled (and
presumably abandoned) in-boxes, or just been ignored, so we're posting this last heads-up here.
If you're registered with Yahoo using an inert or disconnected e-mail address -- and for some reason,
that's the status of a number of folks who've joined in just the last few months, as well as a few
longtime members of the group -- we have to assume you're no longer really on board, and, regrettably,
your membership will be deleted. You can mask your e-mail address, you can use an alternate free
e-mail address, you can mark your status here to receive no e-mail whatsoever from the group.
Whatever. But please, just use any valid address that's capable of receiving e-mail so you don't
appear dead to us.

No cause for any distress or panic among at least a thousand of you. If you're currently receiving
individual messages or the daily digest from the e-list -- or if you know for sure you're still using
the same e-mail address you used when you signed up with Yahoo Groups (and that in-box can still
receive mail) -- this doesn't even concern you. No need even to check. But for the couple of dozen
of you who can't say that...

If you're no longer using the e-mail address you registered when you joined, or if you need to update
anything else about your membership, just click on that "Edit Membership" link above the Forum title
and follow the simple instructions. Takes about a whole minute. Thanks for your co-operation!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
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Message #5504 Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:22 pm
"doctor_boeser81" <doctor_boeser81(at)yahoo.com>
Looking for rules for KLIX Snap Action Football by Tiger

I just found it and haven't played it since i was a kid. Now my son wants to play but
all I can remember is 2's and 12's are good. If anyone could help me out that would be awesome.
Thanks
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Message #5505 Thu Sep 3, 2009 10:40 pm
"Robin Hodges" <r.hodges67(at)yahoo.com>
Re: re: 1920's boardgame - Major League Ball - The Indoor Game Supreme

Yes, that's the game; thanks for the information. I found that auction ($2100 for multiple games)
while surfing the web as well, a few individual diet cut players sold but that's about it.
I really appreciate the reply.

--- "butch7999" wrote:
<< Hi again r.h. ... We're assuming that what you've got there is *Major League Ball* by
National Game Makers, which is of course a very scarce piece. As you suggested, quite a number
of the individual die-cut player figures from that game -- assuming we're talking about the same game
-- did come up at auction last November, with most of those going off between $10. and $15. apiece,
a couple going substantially higher. The only relatively complete example of the game we've seen
sold in an REA auction a little over three years ago, but it's nearly impossible to put a price on the game
based on that auction -- it was grouped with four other very tough games... The gameboard / playing field
alone, in somewhat rough shape, earned only $36. on eBay last summer. We'd expect a relatively complete
*Major League Ball* in nice condition to do significantly better than the sum of those separate parts.
Let us know for sure if we're discussing the game you have or if we're barking up the wrong tree --
and in either case, we'd really appreciate seeing some photos of what you've got there. Send those along,
if you can, to webmaster Butch [ Butch7999(at)aol.com ].
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Message #5506 Fri Sep 4, 2009 8:25 am
"tshieber" <tshieber(at)baseballhalloffame.org>
Our National Ball Game -- McGill & Delany, c1886-87

Hi -
I was wondering if anyone knew anything about McGill and Delany of "Our National Ball Game"
(c. 1886-87) fame? Who were these guys? What are their first names?
Thanks.
- Tom Shieber
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Message #5507 Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:51 pm
"dllonsdale54(at)verizon.net" <dllonsdale54(at)verizon.net>
Old Game - Extra Innings

Looking for and early 70s baseball game called Extra Innings,,
if anyone know where i can get one or have any information for it please let me know!
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Message #5508 Fri Sep 4, 2009 5:07 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Looking for rules for KLIX Snap Action Football by Tiger

Hiya Doc, welcome to the group and thanks for your question! We've got no clue for you
here in the front office, but maybe one or more of the other members on board might be
familiar with the game. All we know is that it's unrelated to the "Clix" (with a "C") games
made by the Topps / Whiz Kids partnership.

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "doctor_boeser81" wrote:
<< I just found it and haven't played it since i was a kid. Now my son wants to play but
all I can remember is 2's and 12's are good.
If anyone could help me out that would be awesome. Thanks
>>

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Message #5509 Fri Sep 4, 2009 5:23 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: 1920's boardgame - Major League Ball - The Indoor Game Supreme

Hi again, Robin -- thanks for the kind words, but actually we weren't really of much help at all, were we!
If you've decided to sell the game, your front office hosts here would desperately love to have that one,
but realistically it's out of the range of our budgets, even with the market for games a bit depressed
at the moment. We'd think -- just a guess, based on other games of similar age and scarcity, and subject
to the condition of your example -- something around $150. to $200., but ya just never know at auction.
Could be a lot lower, could go through the roof. You might do a little better with it by consigning it to one of
the tonier on-line sports memorabilia auction houses like REA, Hunt, or Heritage than you would by putting it up
on eBay, but game collectors still scutinize the eBay listings too, no matter how hideously awful eBay has
made itself. Bear in mind that if you do put it up for bids, you'll have to wait a couple more months before
you can advertise it here in the forum/e-list.

In the meantime, we'd still really like to see some photos of it [ Butch7999(at)aol.com ] ....

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "Robin Hodges" wrote:
<< Yes, that's the game; thanks for the information. I found that auction ($2100 for multiple games)
while surfing the web as well, a few individual diecut players sold but that's about it. I really
appreciate the reply.
>>
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Message #5510 Fri Sep 4, 2009 5:29 pm
"Eric Lutzker" <ericlutzker(at)comcast.net>
Re: Old Game - Extra Innings

http://www.tabletop-sports.com/modules. ... oad&sid=87

this page has downloads that include anything you might need.
-e

--- "dllonsdale54" wrote:
> Looking for and early 70s baseball game called Extra Innings,,
> if anyone know where i can get one or have any information for it please let me know!
>
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Message #5511 Fri Sep 4, 2009 5:58 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Old Game - Extra Innings

Hi d-l, welcome to the group and thanks for your question! In addition to Eric's fine suggestion for downloads,
vintage examples of the game can occasionally be found on, of course, eBay, where new editions are also sold
by vendor "bigleagueco" -- that's longtime forum member Keith Henricksen's operation, the same outfit that
still offers *Big League Manager* and Negamco's "Major League Baseball.*

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "dllonsdale54" wrote:
<< Looking for and early 70s baseball game called Extra Innings,,
if anyone know where i can get one or have any information for it please let me know!
>>
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Message #5512 Fri Sep 4, 2009 5:46 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Our National Ball Game -- McGill & Delany, c1886-87

Hello again Tom, always good to see you here, and thanks for the question about probably the favorite game
not in our own collections! As such, and as it's a hugely important game in an historical context, we're a little
ashamed we don't know more about its creators -- but we can tell you that McGill was Edward K McGill of
Philadelphia, and Delany was George W Delany of the same environs.
A "Thomas Wattson" was also involved with the project, but where and why he fell away from it, we have
no idea, unfortunately. If you dig up anything on those guys, please be sure to let us know!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "tshieber" wrote:
<< Hi - I was wondering if anyone knew anything about McGill and Delany of "Our National Ball Game"
(c. 1886-87) fame? Who were these guys? What are their first names? Thanks.
>>
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Message #5513 Sat Sep 5, 2009 1:00 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Baseballgames update, 9-04-09

Hiya fellers! It's Labor Day Weekend here in the States, signifying that alas, we're drawing near to the close of
another summer, a season which was strangely little more than a rumor this year in our little corner of the world.

Brrr! What? Is it raining *again*? It's also back-to-school time for you youngsters -- pay attention to your
President! -- and of couse time again for the monthly website update. We'll keep it short, since we already
covered some of the usual business in another post a couple of days ago, and since almost everyone skips
over these update messages anyway. No change to the front page of the Forum this month, where *Approved
Little League Baseball Game
* (Standard Toykraft, circa 1960) remains our late-summer cover subject.

Let's not neglect to recognize, however, the many new members who signed on in August -- say hello and
extend a warm welcome to mesablanca1110, velocity7717, samuelgilgal, lromislovs, sunseeker11,
michael_bowes40, slofstrom639, umd_dad, oldtix, precinct9, redpipes, trlewisatc, jak12368, micjmckee,
pup6913, nudan92, lefty2serve, kendy53566, lgoldylox4864, psihoot, r.hodges67, kflaxer, darienct2002,
jim_whitty123, babaoriley1981, mwendell22, deanduffhickman, and sammyvalvo, and one other new member
with an R-rated screen name we'll leave anonymous for the benefit of our younger members and those with
tender sensibilities. In any event, we're glad to have all of you on board here! If you haven't yet done so,
please make sure to familiarize yourselves with Forum Policy
[ http://baseballgames.dreamhosters.com/Forumpolicy.htm ], then take some time to peruse our searchable
Message archives, Files, Links, and Photo galleries, as well as the features at our main website
[ http://baseballgames.dreamhosters.com/ ] -- stick around, introduce yourselves, let us know how you
found us, and don't hesitate to chime in with any questions, comments, or news that you might have.

We'll gloss over our usual advisory about making sure your Yahoo membership has you registered/subscribed
with a currently active e-mail address, and just direct you to our Tuesday message on that topic. As soon as
we're done barbecuing this weekend, we'll be cleaning out both the grill and the members list.

We've made a few new additions to the list of free on-line baseball games and free computer downloads of
baseball boardgames, which we debuted last month -- again, that's here:
http://baseballgames.dreamhosters.com/BbOnline.htm
-- special just for members here, and *not* generally accessible from the rest of the pages at our site.

That list was assembled in response to what we perceived as popular demand, and we got a grand total of
zero reactions to the page. If you do have any comments on the page or more links you think are appropriate
for it, feel free to pipe up here in the Forum or send us a note off-list. Discussions about those games themselves
would be better placed over here, thank you, in our "back room" forum:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Baseballsims/

Pertinent to that, we can also report that downloads have once again been enabled at Jeff Downey's
Tabletop-Sports.com, so your jones for old, obscure, and/or original new sims can be satisfied.
Great work as always, Jeff!

And lastly, following up on another item from last month, we're happy to be able to report that the
dark clouds have parted just a bit for our pal Gene Newman and his family's health situation. We were
very glad to hear that news, Gene, and we'll continue to keep our fingers crossed for you and yours.

Best wishes for the holiday weekend to everyone on board. If you're barbecuin', don't squash those steaks
and burgers, no matter how nifty the sizzle sounds...
Keep up the chatter, boys! Keep those cards and letters comin' in.

Butch, Kerm, & Win
Baseball Games
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/
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Message #5514 Sat Sep 5, 2009 8:29 am
"coachrick_98" <coachrick_98(at)yahoo.com>
Thanks

HI...just a short note to let you know that i truly enjoy all the emails i see about different games and
the help you give ...my question is...what game do you play or do you have leagues with the games you have
...or is just everything for collection... do you use any games or have for baseball cards ...i just wanted to know
a little more about you guys and have seen emails about cleaning the site up...this is my 1ST time sending
you guys a email...please do not knock me off ...i just love reading emails about peoples games and
the info you guys give...
THANKS
coachrick
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Message #5515 Sat Sep 5, 2009 2:18 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: You're welcome!

Hiya Coach, thanks for your questions and those very kind words! Last first, no worries for you,
your Yahoo membership is in good standing, same as can be said for about 94% of the members
of this group. We probably shouldn't have sounded so menacing a note, but we did want to shake
from their torpor any actually active members on board whose memberships merely look dead.
There are a couple of dozen among the nearly 1100 here who have in fact probably left, though,
without properly terminating their Yahoo accounts. We like to have a reasonably accurate headcount,
and Yahoo casts a dark eye on groups with too many expired memberships.

Us, we play, when we get around to it, an advanced, probably overly fussy, version of a homebrew
dice game, which we've been at intermittently and have made a little more complicated every season
since we were kids. It's played in a league format, and the loss of our great friend Fred, one of the
owner/players, two years ago, just as we were expanding from eight teams to twelve -- and had made
the most involved and sweeping adjustments to the playing rules we'd made in about fifteen years --
really set us back. We do try to find time to play the games we collect, though, as well -- in fact,
our intent, well over fifteen years ago when we started researching and collecting, was to "play-test"
every game ever made. Back then we thought there might be around a hundred and we might
get that done before all of us were dead. Now that we know there are close to a thousand, that
ain't gonna happen. We should post some results from the games we've played, though, just for grins
-- these are mostly fairly simple old generics, but they all deserve to be played (well, *almost* all of 'em,
as it turns out) and a few guys here might be interested to know what kind of results they yield.
We usually play seven- or nine-game series between two imaginary teams. And of course, we certainly
welcome any such results for any games on which you or any other members might care to report!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "coachrick_98" wrote:
<< HI...just a short note to let you know that i truly enjoy all the emails i see about different games and
the help you give ...my question is...what game do you play or do you have leagues with the games you have
...or is just everything for collection... do you use any games or have for baseball cards ...i just wanted to know
a little more about you guys and have seen emails about cleaning the site up...this is my 1ST time sending
you guys a email...please do not knock me off ...i just love reading emails about peoples games and
the info you guys give... THANKS
>>
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Messsage #5516 Sun Sep 6, 2009 4:39 pm
"Lionheart®" <za7002az(at)yahoo.com>
APBA special

APBA has a Labor Day sale on for extra player sets. 10 for $10 apiece, that's half price.
I bought 14, silly me, I'll never have the time to play all the seasons I have unless I live to 90.
Gary
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Message #5517 Wed Sep 9, 2009 6:14 pm
"Richard Caldwell" <rcaldw77388(at)yahoo.com>
Longball Baseball

Would anyone on here have a copy of this game you would be willing to sell/trade?
I'm looking for the version that had individual player cards. (I think 1975)
Thanks,
Richard
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Message #5518 Wed Sep 9, 2009 8:53 pm
"ssammiejc2004" <ssammiejc2004(at)yahoo.com>
E S Lowe Big League Game of Baseball 1943

Hi. I am interested in finding out more information on the following game:
Big League Game of Baseball, by E. S. Lowe Co., Vol. 533, copyright 1943.
This version is in a leather box with original pegs and dice, score sheets, and instructions.
Wondering how much this game is worth.
Thanks!
Julie C.
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Message #5519 Wed Sep 9, 2009 10:02 pm
"(WD0MR) Mark Reger" <regerm(at)windstream.net> lambeau_us
Re: Longball Baseball

I don't have the game but it is funny you made this post tonight.. I talked to my brother earlier tonight
and we were talking about having this game sometime in the late 70s... It was a great game and
provided us many hours of fun...
Mark

--- "Richard Caldwell" wrote:
> Would anyone on here have a copy of this game you would be willing to sell/trade?
> I'm looking for the version that had individual player cards. (I think 1975)
> Thanks...
>
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Message #5520 Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:33 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: E S Lowe Big League Game of Baseball 1943

Hello there Julie, welcome to the group and thanks for your question! "Big League Game of Baseball"
(as the instructions have it) or *Baseball Vol. 533* (as the slipcase has it) is a nifty little dice game,
collectible to be sure, but it does not command much of a price on the auction/sales market. Average price
is around $20.-$25., although we've seen it go as high as $36., but also fail to sell for as little as $7.
Sorry we don't have better news for ya! Bear in mind too that if you do put it up for sale or auction,
you'll hafta wait 90 days before you can advertise that here in the forum...

Question for you, though (not that it makes any difference in market value) -- there are two versions
of the graphics on the wooden board, one showing a batter and a pitcher, the other showing a pitcher and
a catcher. Which version do you have? (We're just trying to determine if one is significantly more scarce
than the other.) Thanks!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "ssammiejc2004" wrote:
<< Hi. I am interested in finding out more information on the following game:
Big League Game of Baseball, by E. S. Lowe Co., Vol. 533, copyright 1943.
This version is in a leather box with original pegs and dice, score sheets, and instructions.
Wondering how much this game is worth. Thanks!
>>
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Message #5521 Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:41 am
"ssammiejc2004" <ssammiejc2004(at)yahoo.com>
Re: E. S. Lowe Big League Game of Baseball

Hi again and thank you for the quick response about the game. I did a lot of searching on the internet
before finding this forum. Wish I had looked here first!
Anyway, in response to your question, it is the board with a pitcher and a catcher. Wonder how many of these
were made cuz I've seen a lot online about Lowe's chess sets and his creating Bingo and Yatzee but
couldn't find much about the baseball.
Thanks again.
Julie
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Message #5522 Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:21 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: E. S. Lowe Big League Game of Baseball

You're welcome, Julie, and thanks for providing that requested bit of detail on the game.
We'll never know exactly how many copies of *Baseball Vol. 533* Lowe cranked out, but we suppose it was
a substantial number -- Lowe, for many years, was a fairly major manufacturer/publisher of toys, games, and
"activity books," and more than sixty years later, "Vol. 533" still usually shows up a couple of times a year
on eBay. We suspect, though, that far fewer examples of the game survive than were made -- being small,
relatively inexpensive, and designed at least in part for mailing to US military personnel overseas, the easy
loss of the tiny dice or little instruction sheet probably made the game somewhat disposable.

Couple of trivial footnotes in case you're interested: the Lowe game was produced in both the reddish-brown
edition and a slightly more scarce blue edition, and extremely similar games, in terms of size, design, and
method of play, were also manufactured by Drueke and Metro.

Say, just out of curiosity and since you sort of mentioned it, just how *did* you find our site? Google hates us...

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "ssammiejc2004" wrote:
<< Hi again and thank you for the quick response about the game. I did a lot of searching on the internet
before finding this forum. Wish I had looked here first!
Anyway, in response to your question, it is the board with a pitcher and a catcher. Wonder how many of these
were made cuz I've seen a lot online about Lowe's chess sets and his creating Bingo and Yatzee but
couldn't find much about the baseball. Thanks again.
>>
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Message #5523 Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:09 pm
"jbarbieri50" <jbarbieri50(at)yahoo.com>
my old board game- help

ok experts:
iN THE EARLY 1960'S I had a baseball board -type game (maybe 14"x14") that had a red plastic spinner
in the center (near pitcher) with a window slot , under the diamond that gave the "play". A basic game,
no cards etc. I loved it, , kept my own player stats. I cant remember the name or mfg. The bottom of the box
was a self contained field; maybe White plastic "men" for the fielders, red "men" for baserunners, and
black "men" for umpires?? anyone have a photo of this game??
thanks.
Joe.
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Message #5524 Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:23 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: my old board game- help

Hiya Joe, welcome to the group and thanks for your question! Thanks also, by the way, for interrupting
the weird lull in conversation here in the Forum, and for your off-list note to us.

No experts here in the front office, but since none of the other members have yet replied, and since your
other note reveals you've already figured out the name and maker of your game, we'll confirm for the purposes
of general edification that it's *Baseball - Approved by Little League,* first produced by Milton Bradley in 1958.
There's a photo of the playing field / gameboard in the "Viewer Mail" folder of our Photos section. If you're
looking to buy the game, it's routinely available on eBay -- if there's not one there right now, one will be along
within a few weeks at most.

Over the years, there have been several questions and discussions concerning the game here in the Forum,
so you might want to search the Message archives for more information -- but if you have any other questions
about it, feel free to ask away!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "jbarbieri50" wrote:
<< ok experts: iN THE EARLY 1960'S I had a baseball board -type game (maybe 14"x14") that had
a red plastic spinner in the center (near pitcher) with a window slot , under the diamond that gave the "play".
A basic game, no cards etc. I loved it, , kept my own player stats. I cant remember the name or mfg.
The bottom of the box was a self contained field; maybe White plastic "men" for the fielders, red "men"
for baserunners, and black "men" for umpires?? anyone have a photo of this game?? thanks.
>>
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Message #5525 Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:47 pm
"JMSJELLIS(at)AOL.COM"
Help I NEED parts!

Hey all
long time member first time poster!
I have a tom seaver electronic baseball game and I am missing a few parts, I need the bat and backdrop
any ideas?
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Message #5526 Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:38 am
"jbarbieri50" <jbarbieri50(at)yahoo.com>
Baseball Approved by LL- Milton Bradley

Butch, thanks for you reply and the Photo Section brought back vivid memories of 1962.
I may just purchase the game! From the photos you seem to be very experienced in BB board games.
I was a BB (history) fanatic over the years, however Im hooked on APBA for its stat realism, ease of play
& basic strategy, w/o getting bogged down. Is there any board game out there (besides Strat) that equals
those APBA qualities?
thanks again.
JOE.
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Message #5527 Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:48 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Help I NEED parts! (Tom Seaver game)

Howdy James, thanks for your question! Can't fool us, though -- you've called before!

You do have us a bit uncertain, however, as to just which game you're asking about. Unless we've
missed something major -- and that's always a distinct possibility -- the only Seaver-endorsed game
we know of is *Tom Seaver Game - Action Baseball* by Pressman from late 1969 or early 1970, and
as far as we know that's not an electronic game. It does have that little mechanical pitcher-bell device,
if that's what you mean. And if that's what you're looking for, your best bet might be picking up a fairly
cheap non-endorsed edition of the game and cannibalizing that for the replacement parts. Pressman
produced several identical editions of the playing field / board in different box designs, variously titled
*Big League Action Baseball* or simply -- and more commonly -- *Action Baseball,* from around 1959
into the early '70s, and those are routinely available on eBay, often missing some parts and usually
without boxes, for yard-sale prices. Pressman also turned out nearly identical editions with player
endorsements, *Roger Maris' Action Baseball* in 1961-62 and *Carl Yastrzemski Action Baseball* in
1967-68, which tend to be a lot more costly.

Let us know if we're barking up the wrong tree. If there's a Seaver game we haven't catalogued,
we want to hear about it!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "JMSJELLIS" wrote:
<< Hey all long time member first time poster! I have a tom seaver electronic baseball game
and I am missing a few parts, I need the bat and backdrop any ideas?
>>
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Message #5528 Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:10 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Baseball Approved by LL- Milton Bradley

Hi again, Joe, and thanks for the kind words!
Your question is a tough one -- everybody has their own favorite game, and just exactly what they like about it,
even within the context of the criteria you suggested, varies from gamer to gamer. If *Strat-O-Matic* is a bit
too detailed for your taste -- nothing wrong with that! -- you'd probably find *Pursue the Pennant* similarly
too fussy. *Baseball Classics* might be something you'd want to try, though -- there's a free sample download
from their website -- and *Replay* is another one you might want to look into. *Big League Manager* and
*SherCo's Grand Slam Baseball* are a couple more options you might want to explore. The *Statis Pro* games,
although no longer in production, are kept alive with updates from their own horde of fans -- and don't forget
Cadaco's *All-Star Baseball,* which has its own fan website where loads of fan-created options for adding
any desired degree of complexity to the game, as well as disk-making programmes, are all available.

Those are just a few off the tops of our pointy heads here in the front office, but there's a whole litany of games,
currently in production, mentioned in the Forum Policy you should have already read -- if you haven't yet
done so, you can find that in our Files section or at our main site. We're sure several members of the group
will be along shortly with their own recommendations, too -- remember fellas, just your recommendations,
no slagging of anybody's favorites...

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "jbarbieri50" wrote:
<< ...thanks for you reply and the Photo Section brought back vivid memories of 1962. I may
just purchase the game! From the photos you seem to be very experienced in BB board games.
I was a BB (history) fanatic over the years, however Im hooked on APBA for its stat realism, ease of play
& basic strategy, w/o getting bogged down. Is there any board game out there (besides Strat) that equals
those APBA qualities? thanks again.
>>
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Message #5529 Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:48 pm
"JMSJELLIS(at)AOL.COM"
Re: re: Help I NEED parts! (Tom Seaver game)

NO NO It is called tom seavers electronic baseball, it has an electrical scoreboard and yes a little
mechanical pitcher and an electrical batter which you play as, the game was made in 1970 it says on y box
and I`ll snap a few phto's tomorrow for you to look at and yes I forgot about speaking before
sorry i`m in a lot of groups
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Message #5530 Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:22 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: re: Help I NEED parts! (Seaver electronic game)

Hi again James, thanks for the follow-up! No apologies necessary, we were just playin' with ya.

Well! You have got us good on this one. As we suggested, we have never run across a Seaver-endorsed
electronic game, so this would be completely new on us, and you betcha, we would very much appreciate
seeing some photos of it -- one of the box lid, one of the playing field / gameboard, at least.
Please send those, when you can, to webmaster Butch [ Butch7999(at)aol.com ].
In the meantime, can you tell us who the manufacturer was and the dimensions of the box?
Thanks very much!

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "JMSJELLIS" wrote:
<< NO NO It is called tom seavers electronic baseball, it has an electrical scoreboard and yes a little
mechanical pitcher and an electrical batter which you play as, the game was made in 1970 it says on y box
and I`ll snap a few phto's tomorrow for you to look at and yes I forgot about speaking before
sorry i`m in a lot of groups
>>
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Message #5531 Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:39 am
"JMSJELLIS(at)AOL.COM"
Re: re: Help I NEED parts! (Seaver electronic game)

I will send photo's to you all tonight, in fact as soon as I get home, it was released by parker brothers
I think I`ll check for sure and send lots of pics for ya as well as of all the pieces I have
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Message #5532 Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:13 am
"Bruce Rubin" <barubin(at)yahoo.com>
1966 NL "Be A Manager" recently sold on eBay for $325!

I hope it was to one of our members.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123
1966 Be A Manager Baseball Game
National League Version
--Bruce

--- "jim_whitty123" wrote:
> Hi As a kid my brothers and I played a game called "Be A Manager" I believe the game was published by
> Simon Marder? This game was circa 1966 and contained the national league teams only. Is there anyone out there
> with knowledge of this game or where I can get my hands on a complete copy? I would greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks...
>
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Message #5533 Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:29 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Help I NEED parts! (Seaver electronic game)

Thanks for the follow-up, James! We appreciate the information.
We're still looking forward to seeing some pics...

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "JMSJELLIS" wrote:
<< I will send photo's to you all tonight, in fact as soon as I get home, it was released by parker brothers
I think I`ll check for sure and send lots of pics for ya as well as of all the pieces I have
>>
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Message #5534 Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:18 pm
"kangchenjung0" <kangchenjunga(at)earthlink.net>
old baseball card game?

I have an old card game from 1922 I believe. it is "Olsen's BaseBall played with cards"
does anyone know how I could find the value of this?
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Message #5535 Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:38 pm
"Bob Reynolds" <b.rain55(at)yahoo.com>
Re: 1966 NL "Be A Manager" recently sold on eBay for $325!

I've been dying for that game since my kids lost it 10 years ago. I had both leagues.... the upgraded version....
the "hall of fame" version. (ruth, cobb, etc....) and they gave you a personalized card....guarenteed 50 homers
and .400 batting average. When we moved....my kid left it under the couch. I've been hunting for it ever since.
i hope your serch ends up better than mine.
get back with me.
bob

--- "Bruce Rubin" wrote:
> I hope it was to one of our members.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123
> 1966 Be A Manager Baseball Game
> National League Version
>
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Message #5536 Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:40 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Olsen's (was: re: old baseball card game?)

Hello kang, welcome to the group and thanks for your question! The way you could find the value of your game
is by asking right here. We've monitored literally tens of thousands of sales and auctions over the past
six-seven years plus.
*Olsen's,* and you have the year of manufacture correct, is pretty scarce, although it doesn't quite qualify as "rare"
-- we see one every couple of years on eBay or at one of the more upscale sports memorabilia auction sites.
Surprisingly perhaps, and unfortunately a bit disappointing for you, we'd guess, *Olsen's* remains quite affordable
for collectors. Two complete if slightly weathered examples each sold for something close to $40. on eBay, one
four years ago, the other not quite two years back. One other set in somewhat nicer condition was in a lot of
15 other bits of baseball memorabilia in a November 2007 Hunt auction, and that lot topped out at about $130.
We'd figure the Olsen game accounted for just under half of that. Here in the front office, we think the
card illustrations are pretty cool and that the game is undervalued by collectors, but there ya go.

Hope that helps! Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask -- and of course, if you're going to offer it for sale,
keep in mind the limitations on advertising here in the Forum, as spelled out in the Forum Policy file.

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "kangchenjung0" wrote:
<< I have an old card game from 1922 I believe. it is "Olsen's BaseBall played with cards"
does anyone know how I could find the value of this?
>>
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Message #5537 Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:33 pm
"alfonzos" <AlfonzoS(at)aol.com>
Play by Play All-league Baseball by Robert Mansfield

I contacted the publisher about his games recently and asked him to include his baseball game in my order.
All his games are in a paper-and-pencil format so you have to write on the gameboard to play the game.
The game comes packaged in a plastic pouch to be stuffed inside a number 10 envelope for ease of shipment.
You can contact him at 224 Woodlawn Terrace Colinswood, NJ 08108. Supplies are limited.

Anyway, the game is a generic game and not a statistical replay. To play an at bat one uses the system
to generate two random numbers. Add those numbers together and check the chart for results.
Repeat this process until the game is over.
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Message #5538 Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:47 pm
"alfonzos" <AlfonzoS(at)aol.com>
Re: Play by Play All-league Baseball by Robert Mansfield

Edit: You can contact him at 224 Woodlawn Terrace Collingswood, NJ 08108.

--- "alfonzos" wrote:
> I contacted the publisher about his games recently and asked him to include his baseball game in my order....
>
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Message #5539 Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:53 pm
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Play by Play All-league Baseball by Robert Mansfield

Hi Alfonzo, thanks for the heads-up on that.
How is it no one's ever heard of this fella (or is it just us here in the front office that have never heard of him)?
We can't find any website for him or his array of games, nor even any mention of him on the 'web...

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "alfonzos" wrote:
<< I contacted the publisher about his games recently and asked him to include his baseball game in my order.
All his games are in a paper-and-pencil format so you have to write on the gameboard to play the game.
... You can contact him at 224 Woodlawn Terrace Collingswood, NJ 08108.
>>
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Message #5540 Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:05 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Seaver electronic game (was: Re: Help I NEED parts!)

James, hi, hey, any progress on those pics?
You did get the note we sent you off-list, no?, about how and where to send them?

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "JMSJELLIS" wrote:
<< I will send photo's to you all tonight, in fact as soon as I get home, it was released by parker brothers
I think I`ll check for sure and send lots of pics for ya as well as of all the pieces I have
>>
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Message #5541 Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:42 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Danny MacFayden's Stove League

Hiya fellers -- a question, rather than a half-baked answer this time, from your front-office crew...
The subject of *Danny MacFayden's Stove League Baseball Game* (National Games Co, circa 1927-40)
came up recently in off-list discussion. Here's a detail we don't know: just how are the three special dice
that drive the game marked? We know the white "pitching" die is marked B (ball), S (strike), FS (foul strike),
and N (number) on four sides, but that leaves two sides we're uncertain about. Which of those letters repeats?
We suspect the red die is a standard die, with one to six pips on each of the faces. The green die must be
marked only 1 through 4, however. Which numeral(s) repeat on the other two faces?
Mike or Mark, or anyone here with a relatively complete example of the game, we'd appreciate learning...

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "mikestone193" wrote:
<< ... Now - I know this is bragging - but hey - that's part of the fun of collecting!
This is by far my best pickup in the 4-5 yrs of collecting board games - Butch saw the game when I posted it
at net54 but for those who don't go there - I wanted to post it here. What makes it so great? It's the boxed
early edition of the game AND it looks as good as the day it was made!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249940859
all of the game parts are still 'closed' in the envelope - tho the game is dated back to 1928 -
this one was made 1930 or later since scotch tape was invented in 1930.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249940923
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249941020
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249941062
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249941110
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249941136
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/s ... 1249941175
Thanx for taking the time to view - I know this is prideful - but this game gets me excited every time I look at it....
>>
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Message #5542 Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:48 pm
"JMSJELLIS(at)AOL.COM"
Re: re: Seaver electronic game (was: Re: Help I NEED parts!)

No I never got it I have em saved n my comp now but also I found it on ebay and yeah it is the one
you think it is, I thought it was all something special but it isn't, I was able to get the parts I needed for it
and found out the guy I got it from is full of crud the electronic part to the game was just as you said
now I feel like such a dope. sorry to waste all your time guys
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Message #5543 Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:03 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Seaver electronic game (was: Re: Help I NEED parts!)

James, James! Ease up on yourself! Shoot, us here in the front office, we've been researching and collecting
for almost twenty years and we still get confused about which game is what. Anyway, the Pressman Seaver game
isn't necessarily anything to sneeze at. Seaver's endorsement makes it considerably more "collectible" than the
non-endorsed versions of the Pressman "Action" games, so if yours is in decent shape (particularly the box),
you've still got a nice display piece, with a typical market value in the $30.-$40. range.

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "JMSJELLIS" wrote:
<< No I never got it I have em saved n my comp now but also I found it on ebay and yeah it is the one
you think it is, I thought it was all something special but it isn't, I was able to get the parts I needed for it
and found out the guy I got it from is full of crud the electronic part to the game was just as you said
now I feel like such a dope. sorry to waste all your time guys
>>
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Message #5544 Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:23 am
"butch7999" <Butch7999(at)aol.com>
Re: Dice-Ball Board Game (Educational Toy Company) Kitchener Ontario

Hi again, fellers, a little pictorial treat for ya here, but first, apologies, to all and especially to
Warren "sunseeker11," for our addle-brained delay in posting the pics Warren was good enough to send along
last month. Guess we kinda lost track in the minor chaos following the big lightning strike here at the front office.

Anyway, if you take a look in the "Wha'd Ya Get?" album of the Photos section, you'll find four of the dozen photos
of the game that Warren graciously provided. To us, at least, it's definitely one of the very coolest games
we've learned of in a long time. By some tenuous coincidence, it was actually that conversation about the
Danny MacFayden game we mentioned a couple of posts back that jolted us into remembering we'd forgotten
to post Warren's photos -- the play mechanic in *Major League Baseball Dice-Ball* actually works out somewhat
similarly to that in the MacFayden game, one die determining the result of the pitch (ball, strike, foul, ball in play),
then two dice determining what happens with the batted ball.

B, K, & W
Baseball Games
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baseballgames/

--- "butch7999" wrote:
<< Hello again Warren, thanks very much indeed for those photos! Fellers, Warren was good enough to send to us,
off-list, a dozen pics of his game, and a remarkable thing it is. It looks like there's a little wear to the seam of
what we take to be a folding board (Warren, correct us on anything we've got wrong here), which would be 20x10"
folded closed, 20" square open, some aging in the spine of the instruction booklet, which looks to be about 10x6",
and as Warren noted is his off-list note to us, the extremely peculiar large transparent die has fogged a bit
over the years. But these are all pretty minor elements in the game's overall condition, which is really quite nice
and wouldn't deter any collector for a second. It is, as we said, a completely new one on us, which is a bit
maddening since games of this sort from this era are really right up our alley (we'd put it, strictly at a guess,
as early- to mid-1930s). We've never seen a play mechanic exactly like it in any other game (the large
transparent die containing two smaller dice of two different colors), although it does work out something like
the system in *Strat-O-Matic* and a couple of others that employ three dice of different sizes and colors.

Another intriguing element is the game's logo -- the word(s) "Dice-Ball" squeezed between the seams of a baseball,
nearly identical to the logo used for Ray-Fair's 1930s *Dice-Ball,* although this is clearly an entirely different game,
unrelated to the Ray-Fair play mechanic (two six-sided dice with two different results on each face)....
>>
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Message #5545 Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:15 pm
"chrisharrison355" <chrisharrison355(at)yahoo.com>
Just had a guy pitch a 9-inning no-hitter...

...and lose the game. In my SBS 2007 replay, the Cubs Rich Harden finally did what many other guys
have flirted with a lot in this league: pitch nine innings of no-hit ball. As I cheered after the third out
(these things usually don't make it all the way through the ninth), I remembered that the game was still tied,
0-0. Great. And, sure enough, Harden falls apart in the 10th and loses 3-0.

Hey are any of you guys in here on Facebook? Add me if you are. I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
and I have a yellow shirt on(close-up pic).
Chris Harrison
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Message #5546 Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:51 pm
"Willie Drye" <dryemorr(at)mchsi.com> beaucat001
Re: Just had a guy pitch a 9-inning no-hitter...

Chris:
That's happened in real life. In 1964, Ken Johnson was pitching for the old Houston Colt .45s against Pete Rose
and the Cincinnati Reds. Johnson lost the game, 1-0. The game's only run was scored in the top of the ninth.
Rose reached base on an error and later scored on another error.

Johnson went on to compile a respectable lifetime ERA of 3.46 in a career that lasted from 1958 to 1970.
But he is still the only Major League pitcher to lose a no-hitter.

Best,
Willie Drye

--- "chrisharrison355" wrote:
> Subject: [baseballgames] Just had a guy pitch a 9-inning no-hitter...
> ...and lose the game. In my SBS 2007 replay, the Cubs Rich Harden finally did what many other guys
> have flirted with a lot in this league: pitch nine innings of no-hit ball. As I cheered after the third out
> (these things usually don't make it all the way through the ninth), I remembered that the game was still
> tied, 0-0. Great. And, sure enough, Harden falls apart in the 10th and loses 3-0....
>
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Message #5547 Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:14 pm
"Dwayne Bussman" <bomberfan98(at)hotmail.com>
Re: Just had a guy pitch a 9-inning no-hitter...

Of course we all know about Andy Hawkins of the Yankees, who pitched a no hitter and lost the games
because of walks and a throwing error.
Dwayne Bussman
also on facebook, bomberfan98(at)hotmail.com

--- "Willie Drye" wrote:
> ... That's happened in real life. In 1964, Ken Johnson was pitching for the old Houston Colt .45s against
> Pete Rose and the Cincinnati Reds. Johnson lost the game, 1-0... in the top of the ninth... on an error
> and later... another error.... he is still the only Major League pitcher to lose a no-hitter....
>
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Message #5548 Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:53 pm
"Eric Lutzker" <ericlutzker(at)comcast.net>
Re: Just had a guy pitch a 9-inning no-hitter...

andy hawkins pitched a no hitter for the yankees in 1990 and lost 4-0. it's no longer credited as a no hitter
because the yanks were the visiting team and the white sox did not bat in the ninth. the rule was changed
the next year requiring 9 innings pitched for a no no. i think that's a rip off because i mean it's not just
a one run difference. it's 4-0. i remember seeing him interviewed after the game and he looked really
shell shocked. saying something like 'i don't know how to feel right now.'

--- "Willie Drye" wrote:
> ... That's happened in real life. In 1964, Ken Johnson was pitching for the old Houston Colt .45s against
> Pete Rose and the Cincinnati Reds. Johnson lost the game, 1-0... in the top of the ninth... on an error
> and later... another error.... he is still the only Major League pitcher to lose a no-hitter....
>
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