I'm back, somewhat

I'm back, somewhat

Joined: June 22nd, 2016, 11:29 pm

June 23rd, 2016, 10:05 pm #1

Hello everyone,

Greg Cook here. It's been a long time but I am back. Well, to some degree. That is, I am unsure to what extent, but I am testing the waters. I made the mistake of trying to go against my own personal convictions concerning nudity and that had a very damaging affect on me. I found it impossible to live against my convictions. I ended up deeply depressed and confused with conflicting views desiring to enjoy being nude but feeling bad about it. Jesus said, a house divided will not stand and James says, a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. I learned it the hard way. So I am making the effort to come back to my senses and back to a healthier view of nudity again and reconcile myself to the truth. I will say that I may have been out of balance with nudity too as I really ran with it. I see that now and so I am learning balance to be led of the Spirit more in this and to rest in God. Anyway, I thought I might drop in an briefly say hello. It looks like things are going well. I am happy to see CNC is prospering. I wish I could have continued to be a part of that. I wish more that I could have joined you all. Maybe one day. For now, I am just getting back to feeling good about nudity.

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June 24th, 2016, 2:28 pm #2

Nice to see you back and contributing a bit here.
I'm sure many people have conflicting views on nudity. The evils of it have been drilled into them for years by controlling religious people. I, personally, realized many years ago that nudity, like sex, is a gift and that using that gift honors Him.
Besides, I never got a receipt for the gift and I wouldn't know where to return it...LOL!
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June 24th, 2016, 10:58 pm #3

Hello everyone,

Greg Cook here. It's been a long time but I am back. Well, to some degree. That is, I am unsure to what extent, but I am testing the waters. I made the mistake of trying to go against my own personal convictions concerning nudity and that had a very damaging affect on me. I found it impossible to live against my convictions. I ended up deeply depressed and confused with conflicting views desiring to enjoy being nude but feeling bad about it. Jesus said, a house divided will not stand and James says, a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. I learned it the hard way. So I am making the effort to come back to my senses and back to a healthier view of nudity again and reconcile myself to the truth. I will say that I may have been out of balance with nudity too as I really ran with it. I see that now and so I am learning balance to be led of the Spirit more in this and to rest in God. Anyway, I thought I might drop in an briefly say hello. It looks like things are going well. I am happy to see CNC is prospering. I wish I could have continued to be a part of that. I wish more that I could have joined you all. Maybe one day. For now, I am just getting back to feeling good about nudity.

Greg
Welcome back! I didn't know you left, but welcome back anyway!

I know personally since I accepted naturism and allowed myself to not only relax in it, but to insist on living this way, I have been much happier. I am not frustrated and can wear clothing knowing that I can be nude any time at home or where ever naturism is allowed without fear or judgement. It is no longer a concern. In fact, I am actively looking for land and home where we can live nude with no concerns or rejections by the neighbors.
AS for CNC, unfortunately, we were put in a position to close it. It was given to us on the condition where if we feel we can no longer lead the group, we will give it back to the original founders, who is Allen Parker and his associates at White Tail Resort in VA.

Since we have been struggling here in Colorado for nearly five years, we found it has been very difficult to keep what could have been a large national group. It is also hard to keep it a small group with so many scattered across the county. So while we still have our good reputation, we decided to close it.

But all is well. We feel God will lead us in a new direction, and we hope people like you and Terry and others who have supported or wanted to support and attend, will join God in whatever mission He has in mind for us to participate in.

Live Nude and Prosper,
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June 24th, 2016, 10:59 pm #4

Nice to see you back and contributing a bit here.
I'm sure many people have conflicting views on nudity. The evils of it have been drilled into them for years by controlling religious people. I, personally, realized many years ago that nudity, like sex, is a gift and that using that gift honors Him.
Besides, I never got a receipt for the gift and I wouldn't know where to return it...LOL!
I like your thought on this. No receipt for the gift God has given us! So how can we return it?

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Joined: June 22nd, 2016, 11:29 pm

June 25th, 2016, 12:32 am #5

Welcome back! I didn't know you left, but welcome back anyway!

I know personally since I accepted naturism and allowed myself to not only relax in it, but to insist on living this way, I have been much happier. I am not frustrated and can wear clothing knowing that I can be nude any time at home or where ever naturism is allowed without fear or judgement. It is no longer a concern. In fact, I am actively looking for land and home where we can live nude with no concerns or rejections by the neighbors.
AS for CNC, unfortunately, we were put in a position to close it. It was given to us on the condition where if we feel we can no longer lead the group, we will give it back to the original founders, who is Allen Parker and his associates at White Tail Resort in VA.

Since we have been struggling here in Colorado for nearly five years, we found it has been very difficult to keep what could have been a large national group. It is also hard to keep it a small group with so many scattered across the county. So while we still have our good reputation, we decided to close it.

But all is well. We feel God will lead us in a new direction, and we hope people like you and Terry and others who have supported or wanted to support and attend, will join God in whatever mission He has in mind for us to participate in.

Live Nude and Prosper,
Boyd, I left in terms of not pursuing it as I was doing. I basically deleted my website (which is actually still online), all my photos, articles, etc, threw away my magazines, unsubscribed from sites, etc, and remained clothed when I preferred to be naked. I gave in to my wife seeking to live by HER scewed and unhealthy convictions. It turns out that was extremely dangerous for me as it made me doubleminded and made me feel bad about myself for preferring nudity and enjoying it. I'm trying to destroy that dissonance now and go back to a healthier view on things again.

Sorry about CNC but if God is in it, which I believe He is, it will continue to grow.

As for you, God is with you and bless you. I have continued to pray for you and Gwin daily. I release divine provision to you daily.
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June 25th, 2016, 12:36 am #6

I like your thought on this. No receipt for the gift God has given us! So how can we return it?
Returning to it means that I am actively involving myself in it again. I have actually not even gone nude at all which has been hard. When I tried taking photos recently my wife even commented on it that she would not support it. I felt this would help me feel comfortable with me again and what I prefer so I disregarded her comments.
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Joined: June 22nd, 2016, 11:29 pm

June 25th, 2016, 12:49 am #7

Nice to see you back and contributing a bit here.
I'm sure many people have conflicting views on nudity. The evils of it have been drilled into them for years by controlling religious people. I, personally, realized many years ago that nudity, like sex, is a gift and that using that gift honors Him.
Besides, I never got a receipt for the gift and I wouldn't know where to return it...LOL!
Thank you Terry! It feels good to come back to something healthy. The "conflict" was something I overcome long, long ago but through a serious of bad events, I got over into depression and began to listen to the many voices of others who had spoken into my life from their faulty, fearful and negative views, especially my wife who, when we married, feared to undress even in front of me. She had to have the light out. I was totally comfortable with me and could be nude without concern. In fact, I noted how my son, 24, walked into my bedroom this week while I was naked and it wasn't even an issue. It was as if I were fully clothed. That's how it should be. That's how it was until I got depressed and began seeing things negatively like everyone else. I seemed to actually go backwards and to the point that I would even feel sick if I saw someone naked or wanted to be naked myself. That was bad. I went back and forth for a long time. I want this but it's bad now. I finally decided to make up my mind what was true and stand on it, and so here I am.

I agree that this is a gift without receipt. Romans 11:29 says, "God's gifts and his call are irrevocable." He doesn't apologize for His gifts or make us give them back. Thank you for reminding me that this really is a gift. Every good and perfect gift is from God. James 1:17 And He richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. 1 Timothy 6:17

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Joined: June 22nd, 2016, 11:29 pm

June 25th, 2016, 12:51 am #8

Boyd, I left in terms of not pursuing it as I was doing. I basically deleted my website (which is actually still online), all my photos, articles, etc, threw away my magazines, unsubscribed from sites, etc, and remained clothed when I preferred to be naked. I gave in to my wife seeking to live by HER scewed and unhealthy convictions. It turns out that was extremely dangerous for me as it made me doubleminded and made me feel bad about myself for preferring nudity and enjoying it. I'm trying to destroy that dissonance now and go back to a healthier view on things again.

Sorry about CNC but if God is in it, which I believe He is, it will continue to grow.

As for you, God is with you and bless you. I have continued to pray for you and Gwin daily. I release divine provision to you daily.
Boyd, my web site is still online if you want to update the links on your web page. It's not on Geocities any more. That web provider died but another site copied all those sites to another provider. It's now at:http://www.geocities.ws/greg_pc/
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June 25th, 2016, 6:22 pm #9

Thank you Terry! It feels good to come back to something healthy. The "conflict" was something I overcome long, long ago but through a serious of bad events, I got over into depression and began to listen to the many voices of others who had spoken into my life from their faulty, fearful and negative views, especially my wife who, when we married, feared to undress even in front of me. She had to have the light out. I was totally comfortable with me and could be nude without concern. In fact, I noted how my son, 24, walked into my bedroom this week while I was naked and it wasn't even an issue. It was as if I were fully clothed. That's how it should be. That's how it was until I got depressed and began seeing things negatively like everyone else. I seemed to actually go backwards and to the point that I would even feel sick if I saw someone naked or wanted to be naked myself. That was bad. I went back and forth for a long time. I want this but it's bad now. I finally decided to make up my mind what was true and stand on it, and so here I am.

I agree that this is a gift without receipt. Romans 11:29 says, "God's gifts and his call are irrevocable." He doesn't apologize for His gifts or make us give them back. Thank you for reminding me that this really is a gift. Every good and perfect gift is from God. James 1:17 And He richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. 1 Timothy 6:17
"I agree that this is a gift without receipt. Romans 11:29 says, "God's gifts and his call are irrevocable." He doesn't apologize for His gifts or make us give them back. Thank you for reminding me that this really is a gift."

Even though I had gotten married I still felt a bit hesitant about sexual activity. Then I realized one day that God says its O.K.. Go for it and I did...LOL. We have had lots of fun over the past 35 years because of how we used that gift. I've always felt it was the same with nudism. How you use it will affect whether its right or wrong. Some use it for swinging and others of us simply enjoy life nude and socializing with others. After my wife realized that nudity was used for innocent reasons she hopped on board, too. She has also stated that there is nothing in the Bible against nudity or condemning it. After that she has freely enjoyed it.
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Joined: June 22nd, 2016, 11:29 pm

June 25th, 2016, 11:33 pm #10

Terry,

Right on! You said, "How you use it will affect whether its right or wrong." That's Romans 14:14. "Nothing is unclean OF ITSELF." It's your motive and how you use it that makes it right or wrong. This is true for most things of course. You could use money to feed the hungry or feed your selfish greedy interests. You could use a car to get from one place to another or to run someone over. lol You could use clothes to keep warm or to be provocative. On and on we can go.

In my case, I simply loved being naked. It was not sexual and definitely not for swinging which I hate. I simply preferred no clothes even to socialize. As for my wife, she had a bad childhood. I won't go into details on a public forum but it ruined her to the idea that nudity, any form of nudity, could be healthy. As I said, she would not even undress in front me initially even though we were married. Even today, she commented about how she dreamed how she saw that a relative's daughters wore dresses without panties and it upset and offended her. I understand her concern and likely would not allow any daughter of mine to do this, but at the same time, there is no need to get offended and upset. After all, they're children and by focusing on perversion and on what others might think, you are actually empowering it and make it into perversion. The Bible says, as a man thinks in his heart, so is he, and so if you think of it in a perverse way, it is perverse.

As for what the Bible says, my wife has debated. She doesn't know the Bible well enough to know whether it is for or against or neutral but is bent toward seeing it as wrong, sinful and sexual, regardless. She might even consider my simply being nude around another female akin to cheating.

It's been a tough road for me because of her bent toward a sin consciousness and it has done damage to me by getting me to focus on things I never would have considered before. I'm trying to get back to a healthier view of the matter, the one I had before, which was truly much healthier.
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