To Stage or Not to Stage

To Stage or Not to Stage

Joined: July 9th, 2008, 3:38 pm

January 11th, 2010, 1:15 pm #1

In reply to a message left under topic Casino by Chris Winter Jan 6th a statement By Bob Abdou, I have a lot of respect on what he says most of the time, but when it comes to performing as a ventriloquism I leave you with the comments I posted below:

I have been performing in a different venue totally away from Ventriloquism, I have sung along the east coast with a Male group as well as Musical Comedy shows on a local arena...I have been away from the stage for over 10 years, I have taken up ventriloiquism, studying with Maher...Steve Taylor, Lee Cornell, Mark Wade, Paul Winchell's home study and DVD's and have purchased figures because of the likes of Ventriloquism, but according to your messages (Bob) at my age it might not be something I should be pursuing dues to the full time required, I have used Ax's free on site lessons, all this I grant you does not make me a ventriloquist, I am the proud owner of quite a few vent figures many from AX, there is so much more available to the novice ventriloquist that wasn't available 20 years ago, thanks to the computer...You also say that required is 6 years full time at that. I have been in persuit of a mentor but can not locate one in my area or one that would take the time to assist a senior novice vent in training I have been working walk arounds, as well as senior care centers and kids birthday parties, not many I grant you but a few... I grant you I am concerned... Does a senior vent have any room in this world of ventriloquism or am I tooting a broken horn?
I believe strongly that age should have no reason not to continue to persue the world of ventriloquism...what are your feels on this subject
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Joined: May 17th, 2009, 9:27 pm

January 11th, 2010, 2:25 pm #2

What is the reaction of the audiences you perform for? To me, that is what is important. I remember as a kid, there was a supposed ventriloquist, who was on TV shows. He was so funny, but his mouth moved when he spoke for his puppet.
As far as myself goes, even though I've been only really doing ventriloquism for 9 months with no real training, I think I might be lucky enough to be a natural. I actually had people come up to me afterwards thinking my vent puppet has a recorder inside of him, or that I'm moving his mouth to a recording.
I do not need a professional to tell me what my audience is telling me. After my very first (free) routine with Taco, I had the father of an 11 year old boy come up to me the day after saying how impressed his son was in that his son looked and could not see me moving my mouth. Everyone knows how tough 11 year old boys can be.
I still practice, not as much now though, because I found out I have an ulcer on one of my vocal cords. Probably caused from acid reflux. I go to an ENT doctor today.
I say it does not matter what anyone says as long as you are having fun and you audience is having fun as well. You and your routine will naturally get better, just because you will see what works and what does not work.
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Tony Borders
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January 11th, 2010, 3:58 pm #3

In reply to a message left under topic Casino by Chris Winter Jan 6th a statement By Bob Abdou, I have a lot of respect on what he says most of the time, but when it comes to performing as a ventriloquism I leave you with the comments I posted below:

I have been performing in a different venue totally away from Ventriloquism, I have sung along the east coast with a Male group as well as Musical Comedy shows on a local arena...I have been away from the stage for over 10 years, I have taken up ventriloiquism, studying with Maher...Steve Taylor, Lee Cornell, Mark Wade, Paul Winchell's home study and DVD's and have purchased figures because of the likes of Ventriloquism, but according to your messages (Bob) at my age it might not be something I should be pursuing dues to the full time required, I have used Ax's free on site lessons, all this I grant you does not make me a ventriloquist, I am the proud owner of quite a few vent figures many from AX, there is so much more available to the novice ventriloquist that wasn't available 20 years ago, thanks to the computer...You also say that required is 6 years full time at that. I have been in persuit of a mentor but can not locate one in my area or one that would take the time to assist a senior novice vent in training I have been working walk arounds, as well as senior care centers and kids birthday parties, not many I grant you but a few... I grant you I am concerned... Does a senior vent have any room in this world of ventriloquism or am I tooting a broken horn?
I believe strongly that age should have no reason not to continue to persue the world of ventriloquism...what are your feels on this subject
I know several magicians and ventriloquists who are senior citizens. Granted, many of them have already been doing their craft for years, but that doesn't mean a newby couldn't learn the craft.

John Houseman was 70 years old before he took his first acting job in "Paper Chase". He was amazing!
Grandma Moses was old before she started painting and her paintings are legendary.

I was just reading about another painter who didn't start until she was older. People are grabbing up her stuff.

The main thing though is that you may be willing to do jobs that more costly ventriloquists are not willing to do. I charge a certain fee for birthdays so when they ask if I could come for less I refer them to a magician who will.

Al Good still performed many ventriloquist shows as a senior citizen. I'm hoping he still makes his ventriloquist stands, which I think are the best available. (www.goodshowproducts.com) if I remember right. You can ask him for advice via his website.
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January 12th, 2010, 1:32 am #4

In reply to a message left under topic Casino by Chris Winter Jan 6th a statement By Bob Abdou, I have a lot of respect on what he says most of the time, but when it comes to performing as a ventriloquism I leave you with the comments I posted below:

I have been performing in a different venue totally away from Ventriloquism, I have sung along the east coast with a Male group as well as Musical Comedy shows on a local arena...I have been away from the stage for over 10 years, I have taken up ventriloiquism, studying with Maher...Steve Taylor, Lee Cornell, Mark Wade, Paul Winchell's home study and DVD's and have purchased figures because of the likes of Ventriloquism, but according to your messages (Bob) at my age it might not be something I should be pursuing dues to the full time required, I have used Ax's free on site lessons, all this I grant you does not make me a ventriloquist, I am the proud owner of quite a few vent figures many from AX, there is so much more available to the novice ventriloquist that wasn't available 20 years ago, thanks to the computer...You also say that required is 6 years full time at that. I have been in persuit of a mentor but can not locate one in my area or one that would take the time to assist a senior novice vent in training I have been working walk arounds, as well as senior care centers and kids birthday parties, not many I grant you but a few... I grant you I am concerned... Does a senior vent have any room in this world of ventriloquism or am I tooting a broken horn?
I believe strongly that age should have no reason not to continue to persue the world of ventriloquism...what are your feels on this subject
Tony.. Al and I have been corresponding for a long time now, we have shared phone calls on a weekly basis sharing ideas as well as preparing ****s and scripts, he has taught me a lot in how to open a show and how now to linger on the joke to make the jokes and punch line quick and crisp and snappy...
But Tony or anyone else who wishes to assist, while I have your attention here... I want to do a fairytale with interruptions by the figure with snide remarks... I ask you for your assist what can you do to help me on this? I know that there is the Frog Prince out there that a few vents are using...Once upon a time ... In a galaxy far far away...something like that...
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