A Plea to all Challenger Plainsman owners

Joined: May 9th, 2018, 1:14 am

September 2nd, 2018, 4:07 pm #1

I am sending a request to all Challenger Plainsman owners who read this post, to help me in my research regarding changes, variants and Timeline for the Challenger Plainsman line of Air guns. Practically no documentation and literature is available other than whats already been post. I would like to request Plainsman owners send pictures directly to me or post on this forum pictures of their Plainsman airgun. This includes everything in the Plainsman line, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol. What I especially need are clear photos which show identifying characteristics of their gun such as Hammer knob, Bolt, Caliber stamp, Sights, and Logos stamped on the Receiver. There were numerous running changes on the Plainsman line over its short lifetime and I like to try to document them with photo examples. This is something that could not have been feasibly possible 20 years ago before the advent of the internet. Now we can reach many more Owners thru the power of collector forums specifically for Airguns. My email address is:    corsa@cox.net    if you prefer to just send the photo directly to me, or you can post it directly to this topic on the forum. I know there are untapped Plainsman owners out there, and I hope they can help with this endeavor. I will also cross post this to other airgun forums and will report back with a breakdown of what I find when I'm done. Many thanks to all who can post or email photos of the guns.

Dave Trull
Sierra Vista AZ
corsa@cox.net
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Joined: May 26th, 2005, 11:02 pm

September 3rd, 2018, 6:07 pm #2

Here's my CO2 .22 rifle.  The marking on the receiver:

                             The Plainsman
                             Challenger Arms Corp.

There is no caliber marking on the receiver.
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Joined: May 26th, 2005, 11:02 pm

September 3rd, 2018, 6:25 pm #3

Here's my shotgun.  The marking on the receiver:

                            The Plainsman
                            Challenger Arms Corp.
                            Eagle Rock, 41 Calif.

The receiver has the 'S' marking.  Stock marking is "Q24". P9030168.JPG P9030172.JPG P9030158.JPG P9030157.JPG P9030144.JPG P9030143.JPG P9030132.JPG P9030126.JPG
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Joined: May 9th, 2018, 1:14 am

September 3rd, 2018, 6:48 pm #4

therealkennyboy
Thank you so very much for the excellent photos of your two Plainsman. I will add the info from the excellent quality pictures to my Identification files. By the way those are some really nice examples!!!
I have a CO2 .22 and Pneumatic plainsman as well. 

Dave Trull
Sierra Vista AZ
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Joined: May 26th, 2005, 11:02 pm

September 3rd, 2018, 7:00 pm #5

I meant to ask a question when I posted, but forgot.

On the left side of the shotgun, below the rear part of the receiver, the stock has a reduced profile with an additional smaller cut-out at the end, that don't seem to serve any purpose (i.e. they don't seem to provide additional clearance for any obvious reason).  As compared to the right side, why wouldn't the left side follow the same profile?

I also have a (CO2) pistol stashed away somewhere--I'll post pics when I get around to digging it out.

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Joined: May 9th, 2018, 1:14 am

September 3rd, 2018, 7:15 pm #6

Ken 

I pulled out my Shotgun and the left side looks just like the right with no cut out. I have all three Plainsman Long guns out and I intent to take pictures today.
I'll post a picture of the left side profile of my shotgun later. Also mine has something stamped on the butt end of the stock. It looks most like the number three, but it could also be an eight or an S. My stock at the pump end is stamped s149 and below that R10. The pump handle is marked R10
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Joined: December 13th, 2017, 4:05 pm

September 3rd, 2018, 10:06 pm #7

Wow, those are some killer Plainsmans!

Very nice!
Thanks for sharing Ken.
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Joined: July 22nd, 2011, 4:46 am

September 4th, 2018, 2:07 am #8

One aspect of the Goodenow bulk shotgun that always intrigued me was the overall quality. It was easy to believe that this was some sort of prototype/tradeshow model. But, after seeing the Goodenow bulb rifle here up close for the first time, there's the same quality seen in this gun. It looks like WHB Smith got it spot on regarding Goodenow producing "well made" airguns.   One of the most prominent features of the Los Angeles Plainsman rifles is that they almost always a bit rough. The 2 Goodenow's that I've seen are beauties. 
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Joined: May 28th, 2005, 9:13 pm

September 4th, 2018, 1:34 pm #9

I have a CO2 .22 rifle configured and marked exactly like Ken's with straight-grain  walnut stock; also a pump shotgun exactly like Ken's with a very lightweight and rather rough-sanded stock (but no "weird cutout") with "P98" stamped in both pieces of wood plus a smaller "S249" just below that in the butt piece.
Definitely the woodwork on the CO2 gun shows more attention to shaping and finishing than the Eagle Rock marked one.

Don R.
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Joined: July 22nd, 2011, 4:46 am

September 4th, 2018, 7:08 pm #10

Still, the question I have: are there any Eagle Rock marked CO2 guns?
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