ragged lake bear activity

ragged lake bear activity

Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:00 am

August 14th, 2015, 11:58 am #1

I am taking my 11 year old daughter to Ragged lake at the end of August for her first backcountry experience. I now see they have closed the site near the Smoke to Ragged portage due to bear activity. I don't want to scare her on her first outing. I know there are never garuntees with running into animals in their home but should I maybe switch locations just due to the higher chance because of increased activity or stick to the plan? This is not my first time but I am nowhere near as experienced as most on this forum. Do they put out warnings because of aggressiveness or because they have lost the fear of humans or both? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
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Joined: October 21st, 2010, 1:42 pm

August 14th, 2015, 1:37 pm #2

Good questions .. I was going to go to McManus but its also closed to bear activity. personally I would avoid the general area of the closure which would include some of the surrounding lakes as well .. even though they are not formally closed.

Bears as you likely know will travel a great distance for a meal ... so a few KM's is nothing.

There's a lot of other options for a first backcountry ... my kids are 7 and 9 and have been in the backcountry just a couple of times .. what about Rock lake ...
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Joined: February 29th, 2012, 1:03 pm

August 14th, 2015, 2:54 pm #3

I am taking my 11 year old daughter to Ragged lake at the end of August for her first backcountry experience. I now see they have closed the site near the Smoke to Ragged portage due to bear activity. I don't want to scare her on her first outing. I know there are never garuntees with running into animals in their home but should I maybe switch locations just due to the higher chance because of increased activity or stick to the plan? This is not my first time but I am nowhere near as experienced as most on this forum. Do they put out warnings because of aggressiveness or because they have lost the fear of humans or both? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
Though it's likely that nothing will happen.. why tempt fate? There are plenty of other 1-portage options, such as anywhere up from Canoe Lake, or hit up Uppertwin Falls on the Oxtongue River by launching at the Western Uplands trailhead - no portaging and a nice river site (and you still get cell reception there, if you need it). Or Rock to Pen. Or Shall to Kitty/Booth/Shirley.
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Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:00 am

August 17th, 2015, 1:49 am #4

I am taking my 11 year old daughter to Ragged lake at the end of August for her first backcountry experience. I now see they have closed the site near the Smoke to Ragged portage due to bear activity. I don't want to scare her on her first outing. I know there are never garuntees with running into animals in their home but should I maybe switch locations just due to the higher chance because of increased activity or stick to the plan? This is not my first time but I am nowhere near as experienced as most on this forum. Do they put out warnings because of aggressiveness or because they have lost the fear of humans or both? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
Thanks for the replies. I took your advice dead_weight and switched to rock lake.
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Joined: August 17th, 2015, 10:32 pm

August 17th, 2015, 10:45 pm #5

I am taking my 11 year old daughter to Ragged lake at the end of August for her first backcountry experience. I now see they have closed the site near the Smoke to Ragged portage due to bear activity. I don't want to scare her on her first outing. I know there are never garuntees with running into animals in their home but should I maybe switch locations just due to the higher chance because of increased activity or stick to the plan? This is not my first time but I am nowhere near as experienced as most on this forum. Do they put out warnings because of aggressiveness or because they have lost the fear of humans or both? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
There's been bear issues for many of the lakes around the Canoe/Smoke Lake launch points. Mainly going north on Canoe, up towards Tom Thompson and Burnt Island, but I believe Smoke and possibly Ragged were having issues as well. By 'issues' I just mean the park will warn you when you're picking up your permits that bears have been getting into peoples food, and are accustomed to human activity so they don't get scared off easily. I don't think it's anything dangerous per se, just a nuisance.

I see you already changed your route to Rock Lake. If you wanted to go a bit further, I remember seeing some nice campsites on Penn Lake (I paddled through just a couple weeks ago). Either way, you should definitely check out the Penn Falls off of the 375m portage.
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August 18th, 2015, 2:59 am #6

I am taking my 11 year old daughter to Ragged lake at the end of August for her first backcountry experience. I now see they have closed the site near the Smoke to Ragged portage due to bear activity. I don't want to scare her on her first outing. I know there are never garuntees with running into animals in their home but should I maybe switch locations just due to the higher chance because of increased activity or stick to the plan? This is not my first time but I am nowhere near as experienced as most on this forum. Do they put out warnings because of aggressiveness or because they have lost the fear of humans or both? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
Thanks for the info. I definitely will
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