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July 31st, 2016, 9:34 pm #16

Great builds and a fantastic dio :thumb:
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August 1st, 2016, 6:48 am #17

pandrew wrote:Guess you'll be after the USAAF ground set in due course?
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August 1st, 2016, 6:50 am #18

Lincolnlanc wrote:You know I like it Ted because its got all the elements of what I like to do, build an aircraft and put it in a 'natural' setting.
Thanks Ian. Still need to tweak the dio a little to eliminate reflections on the backdrop and match the base colour grass a little better. But I think it works okay.
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August 1st, 2016, 11:07 am #19

Lovely dio! The back drop works really well. Is the base a print out as well?
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August 1st, 2016, 11:16 am #20

Great modelling! And I endorse all the positive comments above -the blend of fore and background is really impressive, and the blemishes you mention hardly noticeable. At the risk of quibbling, I'd be tempted, if it is intended to be a permanent diorama, to replace the propellers of the fighters with a round transparent disc with a bit of black sprayed on to give them some movement... Their stands dominate a bit at the moment too, I wonder if painting them the background colour would hide them more? That might work in 2 dimensions, but not in 3. Sorry if that ended up sounding a tad negative, it's not meant too... It's a lovely model.
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August 1st, 2016, 12:27 pm #21

Hi Random Letters (:-)). Glad you like it. My dio's are stiil `work in progress` to some extent. I'm thinking of using a glass or Perspex pane to replace the plastic rods in future with aircraft affixed (some how?) so that they look like they are suspended without any visible means. The pane would be placed in front of the dio at an angle (idea pinched from Tim Prosser, the master of all things flying). I'm also looking at ways of spinning the props. Perhaps using a fan. Then there's foreground forced perspective like they use in Thunderbirds. That is, having some larger terrain near the camera to give depth. But first I must build a better backdrop suspension method :-) Dio three inbound...
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August 1st, 2016, 12:52 pm #22

ste_man wrote:Lovely dio! The back drop works really well. Is the base a print out as well?
Thank you.
The base can be downloaded off the net for about £8 (IIRC). It's a commercially available pdf with about 8 A4 tiles (company name escapes me). While it sounds expensive you can make as many bases as you like. Print them out, stick them on with PVA and then paint with watercolours. The green areas are stippled watercolour. Normally I use flock but wanted to see how this looked without the mess.
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August 1st, 2016, 2:52 pm #23

Yeah, I can see that a Perspex pane would work. Weirdly enough, I'd been trying to find out about forced perspective, and the opinion in the railway modelling world seems to be that it only works well if; either the model is viewed at eye-level; or, the viewpoint is fixed, which means it works fine for photography, but as soon as the viewer moves, the illusion disappears. The only exception is the kind of flat background that you've used to such good effect to give a deep perspective. I wasn't aware of the T-birds directors using it; although in that case, naturally, the view point is controlled by the camera position.
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August 2nd, 2016, 10:01 am #24

Looks great. I have reached the point of just enjoying to build without worrying about historical accuracy etc as well. I would ended up with planes that didn't even serve at the same time and would be blissfully aware of it.
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August 2nd, 2016, 12:51 pm #25

I just pick colour schemes that look nice and are fun to paint :-)
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August 3rd, 2016, 6:29 pm #26

That is just a fantastic dio! Very nice!
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August 5th, 2016, 11:50 am #27

Great Dio.
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October 9th, 2016, 7:45 pm #28

Lovely dio!

Sorry for chiming in really late, but I only just stumbled across your build. I spent several years back in the 90's researching "Ice Cold Katy", and more or less gathered enough information for a book. I also corresponded with many ex 612th BS aircrew that flew on Katy. She completed 103 missions and survived the war returning to the States in July 1945. She ended her days at Kingman, Arizona like many other US aircraft and was scrapped sometime in 1946/47.
Afraid to say that the yellow stripe did not denote a pathfinder aircraft, it was simply one of the group identifying markings along with the triangle "S". Black outlines were introduced on the yellow stripe when the natural metal aircraft started to arrive at Deenethorpe so it would stand out more, but it was several months before "Katy" was painted with the black stripes. I have photos of "Katy" showing both. In fact, "Katy" was one of the first natural metal B-17's the group received, one of three that arrived in March 1944. Regarding pathfinder aircraft, these carried a "Mickey" ray-dome fitted where the ball turret would have been.
I discovered that her name came about due to a popular song at the time, and that it was reckoned that 42-107039 had a defective cockpit heater and was one of the coldest aircraft in the group. She was named by her first crew's top turret gunner/engineer, Sgt Earl C. Gibson.

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October 12th, 2016, 12:20 pm #29

"Afraid to say that the yellow stripe did not denote a pathfinder aircraft"

Well, since the USAAF didn't have a "Pathfinder Force" it really couldn't, could it? What they did have were "formation ships" that the first squadrons to take off on a large raid formed up on, but they were "high visibility in spades"; one that I can remember from Scale Models ~1980 was white with red, blue and olive drab polka dots! And no I am not SY!
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October 12th, 2016, 2:46 pm #30

I thought I'd read that somewhere, but obviously I was mistaken :oops:
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