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February 26th, 2011, 11:27 am #31

:rotfl:

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February 26th, 2011, 12:02 pm #32

Hahaha :rotfl:
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February 26th, 2011, 12:06 pm #33

I know I'm crazy! But some quick mock up photos might give a better idea of how my very disturbed mind is thinking.  You'll have to imagine the cauliflower in large quantities though!

The effect I am trying to achieve ...

Photo taken from about 6".  1/285 Zil truck and Phantom on a low level bombing run.

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Taken from about 18" with a 1/72 Sea Harrier FRS1 in the foreground to give the kind of view the pilot would have.

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The Cast!

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I know FRS1s didn't fly in the Vietnam War, but it's all I've got so far!  And it's die cast before anyone says what a good build it is!  :lol:

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February 26th, 2011, 12:27 pm #34

tangfastico:303987 wrote:
 And it's die cast before anyone says what a good build it is!  :lol:
Alea iacta est ...the die has been cast.. :sofa:

It looks good...I like the idea. Mybe they would be good (the cauliflower heads) for making explosions as well.  :think:
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February 26th, 2011, 1:01 pm #35

Blimey, Paul!  What a cracking idea! :clap:  Yes!  Painted black shaded with grey shading, they could certainly be used to model a pall of dense smoke after an explosion!!! :thumb:
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February 26th, 2011, 2:20 pm #36

tangfastico:304020 wrote:Blimey, Paul!  What a cracking idea! :clap:  Yes!  Painted black shaded with grey shading, they could certainly be used to model a pall of dense smoke after an explosion!!! :thumb:
OOOPS! That puts me online for a "mad proffesor" badge  :)
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February 26th, 2011, 2:40 pm #37

:lol:  ... It'll take the heat off me for a while Paul!  :D
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February 28th, 2011, 4:52 am #38

So tangfastico,  is that cauliflower on the mock up photos dried and painted? It looks good.

Btw, I think you're no more crazy than the people selling dried bagged lichen in model stores (and the people who buy the bags for that matter as well). After all, lichen happens to be vegetation too doesn't it? :wink:
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February 28th, 2011, 9:38 am #39

Hi, Kaleb!

I've been experimenting with the cauliflower!  That first test piece in the picture was dried and painted with enamel paint.  It has since been given a spray of Humbrol Matt varnish a couple of times and so far, there seems to be no rotting!  Trying to seal with PVA is more difficult and doesn't work so well.  I have yet to try sealing with wood varnish.

However, I have dried a whole cauliflower now and will paint it all today and hopefully have another picture up today to see what it is looking like with more than one piece!  It isn't a laborious process at all.  An hour or two in the oven at about 100 degrees centigrade then painted with thinned down green paint.  The cauliflower heads themselves absorb the paint very well, but the stems need neater paint.  I'm going to spray the next ones with grey primer first to see if that aids paint adhesion to the stems.

So far, I am pretty pleased with the results.  Once they are all painted and sealed, I will leave them.  It will be quite some time until I begin this diorama.  If the cauliflower doesn't rot by them, I will be pretty pleased.  If it becomes a slimy pulp, it will have to be plaster moulds!

Is all modelling lichen dried lichen then?  I always thought it was artificial stuff.  I got three bags of tree and bush foliage from Javis.  This isn't lichen.  It has the right kind of texture and scale I want, but at about £1.90 plus p&p for a little packet, it would cost a small fortune.  I'm pretty confident that I could cover the same area with cauliflower for less than half the price.

We shall see!  If I am proven to be insane, I shall have to leave the ATF in disgrace for sullying its honoured name and walk into the sunset!  :idea:
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February 28th, 2011, 10:04 am #40

Here in NZ you can (could) by dried lichen (the stuff that grows on trees) that has been painted green, dark green, or autumn red and yellow. Haven't seen it for a while though, I seem to remember that it was by a fairly rare railway scenic brand as I had never heard of it before can't remember the brand name though. I'll see if my LMS still stocks it.
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February 28th, 2011, 12:29 pm #41

Cheers, Strider!

Well, my last batch of cauliflower was left in the oven longer than usual and has come out very dry, but more brittle.  It isn't as easy to paint so I am going to resort to a rattle can - which is probably cheaper anyway - although I am thinking of using blocks of kids water colours which may be even cheaper!  

Aircraft film footage from the Vietnam War era tend to make the vegitation look quite dull in colour, but Vietnam is a pretty wet place and good photos show the countryside to be bright and vibrant green so I don't want the trees to look to dark!  Lime green would be closer than olive drab!

Well, back to the lab!  I'm trying to avoid being sent to see a shrink at the moment! :rotfl:
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February 28th, 2011, 12:34 pm #42

Aircraft film footage from the Vietnam War era tend to make the vegitation look quite dull in colour,
Anything to do with that lovely old agent orange :?: - tend to make things look a bit dull
Well, back to the lab!  I'm trying to avoid being sent to see a shrink at the moment! :rotfl:

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February 28th, 2011, 12:59 pm #43

shorty wrote:Anything to do with that lovely old agent orange  :?:  - tend to make things look a bit dull
Absolutely, Ben!  But I think the dulness of a lot of the in-flight footage is down to the nature of the filming and more probably age!

I hadn't thought of modelling a de-foliated area!  That would have been a lot easier!  If the cauliflower does rot, I might just burn it off with a kitchen blow torch and 'agent orange' it!  :lol:
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February 28th, 2011, 11:35 pm #44

Kitchen blow torch???????
Do you use it instead of a toaster? Or is it uncase somebody wants to complain about the cauliflower that they found in the oven and ate? :lol:
go on, tell us why you keep a blowtorch in the kitchen (people may start to think you even more crazy though) :wink:
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March 1st, 2011, 12:15 am #45

:lol:  We haven't got one yet, but are hoping to get one soon, Kaleb!  What's up with you, man?  Don't you ever watch cookery programmes on TV?  :lol:   A kitchen blowtorch is a hand-held ... oh, blow it (see what I did there?) ... a picture would explain much better! ...

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff3 ... cture1.jpg

It can be used for finishing Creme Brulee, browning merangues, roasting peppers, melting cheese, caramalising sugar and a host of other things - including defoliating manky and rotting jungle dioramas! :rotfl:

See? You live and learn!  Tangfastico may not be as mad as a box of frogs after all! hehehe!  :lol:
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