Logitech
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3:38 AM - May 14, 2012 #11

A couple things on this. There is a big difference between being selected in the Future's draft and actually playing on the USHL. Do a little checking, for many (who were selected in the Future's Draft) the history of ever playing in the USHL is not good. It is not too hard to figure out. More importantly, the claim that this is the first time that these players are evaluated by paid professional paid by the USHL teams.
Maybe. Consider this however, the "scouts" do not have the funds our time to do extensive research. Most of them are assistant coaches, etc. Therefore they depend heavily on what coaches from the respective AAA, HS, etc. organizations have to say (meaning that "daddy coaches" and other such influences come into play "AGAIN.") I have learned over the years in talking with USHL GMs, etc that Illinois AAA hockey is the worst where such references should not be trusted - and when trusted result in bad choices. In the long run, all this "stuff" sorts itself out. I have been part of this for several years. I have learned that if your player is good - they will be found. However, I am in no way slapping or congratulating the "Future Draft" selects -they have really accomplished nothing. Juniors is a very long and hard road - to be blunt "Futures Draft" is really meaningless.
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2:41 PM - May 14, 2012 #12

Logitech,

Sounds like a very truthful statement.

Do you have any #'s or stats on how many players drafted in each round will actually play in USHL ?
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6:42 PM - May 14, 2012 #13

Ya some numbers to back that up, I would say at least 70% of the players in the futures draft play at least 10 games at some point in the USHL. I am just speculating from experience.

I am a little confused by a few of his statements though. It is usually asst. coaches doing the scouting, so if they are not talented, and rely on coaches input, whom are not truthful or talented, what is the reason Illinois kids are playing in the USHL?
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11:47 PM - May 14, 2012 #14

Do your own research. Go look at the lists -they are there. BTW ... there are a ton of good players from Illinois in the USHL through their hard work and perseverance- they made it through and on to good colleges. No question about that. What I am talking about is the Future's Draft. If you bother to do a little checking you will see (1) many players drafted that never made it (2) many players drafted that were traded and never played for the team that drafted them. But hey, don't listen me - you can figure this it out on your own with a minimum amount of research.
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Facts back it up
Facts back it up

12:56 AM - May 15, 2012 #15

I had a free moment. So here is 10 minutes of research for you on the first round. Feel free to check the second and other rounds on your own. Eat it. The kids are doing fine.

2009 Futures picks according to:
http://www.oursportscentral.com/service ... id=3822472


Here is what they did in the 2011-2012 season. NOTE - Hockey db does NOT mention college commits. Only the kids that played in college last year.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/findplayer.php

1. Youngstown Matt Mahalak (G) - selected by Carolina Hurricanes
2. Cedar Rapids Cason Hohmann (D) - 35 games at BU
3. Waterloo Jay Williams (G) – Played Waterloo / SF Going to Miami U this year
4. Des Moines Nick Malysa (D) – 61 games at Plymouth Whalers
(pick acquired from Lincoln)*
5. Fargo Brian Cooper (D) – 3 year starter at Fargo
6. Sioux City Jordan Schmaltz (D) – you know who he is / NHL round 1 likely
7. Sioux Falls Blake Pietila (F) – 39 games at Mich Tech last year
8. Indiana Alex Racino (F) – 24 games at Sudbury
9. Green Bay Dan Molenaar (D) – 54 games split Sioux City and GB
10. Des Moines Zane Popilock (D) – 39 games at NAHL Amarillo
11. Chicago J.C. Campagna (F) – 66 games OHL / Q split
12. Tri-City Peter Hand (D) – 47 games Waterloo / Indy split
13. Omaha Scott Dornbock (D) – No info


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the missing one -
the missing one -

1:01 AM - May 15, 2012 #16

Scott Dornbrock (misspelled Dornbock) - 35 games Omaha Lancers
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1:28 AM - May 15, 2012 #17

It would appear those assistant coaches ARE pretty good at picking talent. Very nice job on the research.
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10 more minutes
10 more minutes

2:10 AM - May 15, 2012 #18

Couldn't let it go. After getting some work done, I gave you all 10 more minutes for the second round from 09. Same sources. These kids doing fine too.

Now, gentlemen, wifey is coming home from bookclub, so I am off to mix some drinks for her and get lucky tonight ;-)

Here you go, second round:

1. Omaha Max Everson (D) – 34 games Harvard / Maple Leafs Draft Pick
2. Tri-City Dakota Olvin (D) – Still at MI Prep School best I can tell
3. Chicago Theo DiPauli (F) – 24 games Steel
4. Des Moines Kevin Irwin (F) – 28 games Des Moines (55 year before, injury?)
5. Green Bay Andy Welinski (D) – Green Bay . MN Duluth Commit per:
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/andy_welinski
6. Indiana Alex Gacek (F) – 57 Games Youngstown
7. Sioux Falls Mike Reilly (D) – 54 Games Penticon BCHL
8. Sioux City Brett Curran (D) – 31 Games Steel
9. Fargo Corbin McGuire (F) – 13 games Fargo
10. Lincoln Kevin Zugec (D) – 47 games New Mexico NAHL
11. Waterloo Michael Zajac (F) – 1 game Waterloo
12. Cedar Rapids Jacob Downing (D) – Still at MI Prep School
13. Youngstown Connor Murphy (D) – 35 games Sarnia

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3:38 PM - May 15, 2012 #19

I think Jake Downing is playing for Dubuque.

A couple of nice 5th round pics in Kuraly and Broadhurst !
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9:47 PM - May 15, 2012 #20

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