Shooting Someone

Shooting Someone

Dan
Dan

December 3rd, 2002, 5:15 pm #1

Just read the thread about the girl getting shot on the AT and began to wonder...

How is it possible to shoot someone accidently, thinking they were game?

1. People have 2 legs, deer and elk have 4. People also differ in that they stand upright.

2. When hunting you need to identify several things before you shoot. Say I'm hunting for a doe deer, I first must ensure what I am aiming at is not a domestic cow, an elk, a horse, a moose, etc... first chance to notice it is human. Next, since I am hunting a doe, I must ensure the thing doesn't have horns... second chance to notice the thing is human. Is it the size I wanted, not old, and on and on...

3. The texture of people and animals differ. People have clothing on, hats, sunglasses, backpacks, etc... Animals just have fur.

Despite all of this, people still get shot every year... I don't get it. Freaking idiots!!!!!
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roger
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December 3rd, 2002, 8:13 pm #2

You are referring to an item posted here:
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/mes ... 1038235448

I have been debating whether to post a follow up. But this story is big news in Georgia. Here's one of the stories:

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ATLANTA — A 16-year-old Cartersville girl shot by a hunter Sunday morning in the North Georgia woods does not want the hunter prosecuted, the girl’s father said.
Rachel Ferguson, who was in the intensive care unit of St. Joseph’s Hospital of Atlanta, was upset to learn felony charges had been brought against the hunter, 21-year-old Matthew Bryant, her father said Monday.
“That’s not what she wants,” Terry Ferguson said.
Bryant was charged with misusing a firearm and faces up to 10 years in prison and a $5,000 fine. He surrendered to police Monday and was released on $10,000 bond.
Terry Ferguson said the hunter gave his daughter first aid and CPR.
Rachel was in fair condition, but doctors have decided for now not to remove the bullet lodged against her collarbone. Her father said she may be able to go home by the weekend.
Bryant, from Suches in north Georgia’s Union County, was hunting with a friend as dawn broke when he fired on movement about 220 feet away at the edge of the Appalachian Trial in the Lake Winfield Scott Recreation Area of the Chattahoochee National Forest.
http://209.41.184.21/partners/680/publi ... 99065.html
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roger
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December 3rd, 2002, 8:26 pm #3

Just read the thread about the girl getting shot on the AT and began to wonder...

How is it possible to shoot someone accidently, thinking they were game?

1. People have 2 legs, deer and elk have 4. People also differ in that they stand upright.

2. When hunting you need to identify several things before you shoot. Say I'm hunting for a doe deer, I first must ensure what I am aiming at is not a domestic cow, an elk, a horse, a moose, etc... first chance to notice it is human. Next, since I am hunting a doe, I must ensure the thing doesn't have horns... second chance to notice the thing is human. Is it the size I wanted, not old, and on and on...

3. The texture of people and animals differ. People have clothing on, hats, sunglasses, backpacks, etc... Animals just have fur.

Despite all of this, people still get shot every year... I don't get it. Freaking idiots!!!!!
12/03/02

Man pleads not guilty following Lake Placid shooting
By NED P. RAUCH, Staff Writer
LAKE PLACID — The man who allegedly shot and seriously injured a Vermont man after a day of hunting last week has pleaded not guilty to second-degree assault.

Authorities said Larry Burdo, 53, of Lake Placid, shot Bruce Lea Woodruff in the stomach last Tuesday evening as Woodruff and his father were wrapping up a day of hunting. According to State Police, Burdo was 40 yards away from Woodruff in a wooded area off Adirondak Loj Road near Lake Placid when he mistook Burdo for a deer and shot him.

As of Monday afternoon, Woodruff, 39, of Sunderland, Vt., was listed in critical condition at Fletcher Allen Healthcare in Vermont.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 320025.htm


LAKE PLACID — An early-evening shooting, believed to be a hunting accident, occurred near Lake Placid on Tuesday and left one man seriously injured.
The shooting took place at approximately 5 p.m. Tuesday on a trail off the Adirondack Loj Road, about 10 miles southeast of Lake Placid.
The victim was transported to Adirondack Medical Center in Lake Placid and then on to AMC Saranac Lake, where he was in surgery for several hours. Hospital officials disclosed neither the victim’s identity nor his condition.
Neil Woodworth, of the Adirondack Mountain Club, which runs the Loj, said earlier rumors that a Loj employee, believed to be hunting in the area at the time of the incident, may have been involved were unfounded.
Should investigators confirm the shooting was hunting related, it would be the Tri-Lakes area’s first serious hunting accident in several years.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 200210.htm
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roger
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December 3rd, 2002, 8:29 pm #4

Just read the thread about the girl getting shot on the AT and began to wonder...

How is it possible to shoot someone accidently, thinking they were game?

1. People have 2 legs, deer and elk have 4. People also differ in that they stand upright.

2. When hunting you need to identify several things before you shoot. Say I'm hunting for a doe deer, I first must ensure what I am aiming at is not a domestic cow, an elk, a horse, a moose, etc... first chance to notice it is human. Next, since I am hunting a doe, I must ensure the thing doesn't have horns... second chance to notice the thing is human. Is it the size I wanted, not old, and on and on...

3. The texture of people and animals differ. People have clothing on, hats, sunglasses, backpacks, etc... Animals just have fur.

Despite all of this, people still get shot every year... I don't get it. Freaking idiots!!!!!
This time of year always has amazingly stupid reports of hunters shooting people. Check out the following searches (that's how I found the Adirondack Loj shooting):
http://p.moreover.com/cgi-local/page?qu ... 20accident"
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=hunting+accident

Perhaps the most bizarre of the bunch:


BERLIN — Police are investigating what they describe as a “freak hunting accident” Sunday in which a man sitting in his living room watching football on television was shot in the head.
Edward Carroll, 59, remained in critical condition Monday at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center in Lebanon, N.H.
He suffered what police described as “a single gunshot wound to the head” while watching a televised football game from a recliner in the living room of his mobile home.
Bell said police are asking anyone who was hunting in the vicinity of Airport Road in Berlin on Sunday afternoon to contact town police at 223-4401.
Anyone who noticed a hunter in the area at the time is also asked to call.


http://rutlandherald.nybor.com/News/Sta ... 57052.html

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roger
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December 4th, 2002, 3:00 pm #5

You are referring to an item posted here:
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/mes ... 1038235448

I have been debating whether to post a follow up. But this story is big news in Georgia. Here's one of the stories:

----
ATLANTA — A 16-year-old Cartersville girl shot by a hunter Sunday morning in the North Georgia woods does not want the hunter prosecuted, the girl’s father said.
Rachel Ferguson, who was in the intensive care unit of St. Joseph’s Hospital of Atlanta, was upset to learn felony charges had been brought against the hunter, 21-year-old Matthew Bryant, her father said Monday.
“That’s not what she wants,” Terry Ferguson said.
Bryant was charged with misusing a firearm and faces up to 10 years in prison and a $5,000 fine. He surrendered to police Monday and was released on $10,000 bond.
Terry Ferguson said the hunter gave his daughter first aid and CPR.
Rachel was in fair condition, but doctors have decided for now not to remove the bullet lodged against her collarbone. Her father said she may be able to go home by the weekend.
Bryant, from Suches in north Georgia’s Union County, was hunting with a friend as dawn broke when he fired on movement about 220 feet away at the edge of the Appalachian Trial in the Lake Winfield Scott Recreation Area of the Chattahoochee National Forest.
http://209.41.184.21/partners/680/publi ... 99065.html
I post the americasroof e-news on rec.backcountry and periodically check to see if there are comments:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ameri ... &scoring=d

Somebody likes to turn around and post the accident reports (under a new headline in alt.support.depression.manic).

I wonder if they're trying to tell me something.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ameri ... com&rnum=2
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Roger Williams
Roger Williams

December 4th, 2002, 7:24 pm #6

12/03/02

Man pleads not guilty following Lake Placid shooting
By NED P. RAUCH, Staff Writer
LAKE PLACID — The man who allegedly shot and seriously injured a Vermont man after a day of hunting last week has pleaded not guilty to second-degree assault.

Authorities said Larry Burdo, 53, of Lake Placid, shot Bruce Lea Woodruff in the stomach last Tuesday evening as Woodruff and his father were wrapping up a day of hunting. According to State Police, Burdo was 40 yards away from Woodruff in a wooded area off Adirondak Loj Road near Lake Placid when he mistook Burdo for a deer and shot him.

As of Monday afternoon, Woodruff, 39, of Sunderland, Vt., was listed in critical condition at Fletcher Allen Healthcare in Vermont.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 320025.htm


LAKE PLACID — An early-evening shooting, believed to be a hunting accident, occurred near Lake Placid on Tuesday and left one man seriously injured.
The shooting took place at approximately 5 p.m. Tuesday on a trail off the Adirondack Loj Road, about 10 miles southeast of Lake Placid.
The victim was transported to Adirondack Medical Center in Lake Placid and then on to AMC Saranac Lake, where he was in surgery for several hours. Hospital officials disclosed neither the victim’s identity nor his condition.
Neil Woodworth, of the Adirondack Mountain Club, which runs the Loj, said earlier rumors that a Loj employee, believed to be hunting in the area at the time of the incident, may have been involved were unfounded.
Should investigators confirm the shooting was hunting related, it would be the Tri-Lakes area’s first serious hunting accident in several years.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 200210.htm
Shouldn't that be Lodge?

Roger Williams, Boulder CO.
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David Metsky
David Metsky

December 4th, 2002, 7:39 pm #7

That's the way it's always been spelled. Just one more quirk of the region.

-dave-
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Chris
Chris

December 4th, 2002, 9:03 pm #8

Shouldn't that be Lodge?

Roger Williams, Boulder CO.
According to Holmes, the builder was a fan of "simplifid speling"
Hapy hipointing!
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Pete Hickey
Pete Hickey

December 7th, 2002, 11:18 pm #9

12/03/02

Man pleads not guilty following Lake Placid shooting
By NED P. RAUCH, Staff Writer
LAKE PLACID — The man who allegedly shot and seriously injured a Vermont man after a day of hunting last week has pleaded not guilty to second-degree assault.

Authorities said Larry Burdo, 53, of Lake Placid, shot Bruce Lea Woodruff in the stomach last Tuesday evening as Woodruff and his father were wrapping up a day of hunting. According to State Police, Burdo was 40 yards away from Woodruff in a wooded area off Adirondak Loj Road near Lake Placid when he mistook Burdo for a deer and shot him.

As of Monday afternoon, Woodruff, 39, of Sunderland, Vt., was listed in critical condition at Fletcher Allen Healthcare in Vermont.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 320025.htm


LAKE PLACID — An early-evening shooting, believed to be a hunting accident, occurred near Lake Placid on Tuesday and left one man seriously injured.
The shooting took place at approximately 5 p.m. Tuesday on a trail off the Adirondack Loj Road, about 10 miles southeast of Lake Placid.
The victim was transported to Adirondack Medical Center in Lake Placid and then on to AMC Saranac Lake, where he was in surgery for several hours. Hospital officials disclosed neither the victim’s identity nor his condition.
Neil Woodworth, of the Adirondack Mountain Club, which runs the Loj, said earlier rumors that a Loj employee, believed to be hunting in the area at the time of the incident, may have been involved were unfounded.
Should investigators confirm the shooting was hunting related, it would be the Tri-Lakes area’s first serious hunting accident in several years.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 200210.htm
According to the radio reports, and

http://www.pressrepublican.com/Archive/ ... 320025.htm

Woodruff was hunting in the area. The title here seems like it was chosen to scare hikers... (BTW, I had been hiking in that area two days earlier, and ran into quite a few hunters..,)

The title really should read, "hunter shoots hunter"
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Anonymous
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December 8th, 2002, 1:55 am #10

This time of year always has amazingly stupid reports of hunters shooting people. Check out the following searches (that's how I found the Adirondack Loj shooting):
http://p.moreover.com/cgi-local/page?qu ... 20accident"
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=hunting+accident

Perhaps the most bizarre of the bunch:


BERLIN — Police are investigating what they describe as a “freak hunting accident” Sunday in which a man sitting in his living room watching football on television was shot in the head.
Edward Carroll, 59, remained in critical condition Monday at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center in Lebanon, N.H.
He suffered what police described as “a single gunshot wound to the head” while watching a televised football game from a recliner in the living room of his mobile home.
Bell said police are asking anyone who was hunting in the vicinity of Airport Road in Berlin on Sunday afternoon to contact town police at 223-4401.
Anyone who noticed a hunter in the area at the time is also asked to call.


http://rutlandherald.nybor.com/News/Sta ... 57052.html
i've always said that hunting is safer that football.
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