NH House Votes to Renanme Mount Clay to Mount Reagan

NH House Votes to Renanme Mount Clay to Mount Reagan

roger
roger

March 14th, 2003, 2:51 pm #1

CONCORD - The House voted Thursday to scratch Mount Clay off maps of the Presidential Range and pencil in Mount Reagan.
The House voted 213-130 to change the name in honor of former President Reagan. The Senate next considers the bill.
The peak is in the White Mountains about a mile from Mount Washington, the highest mountain in the Northeast.
Supporters said it is a fitting memorial to substitute Reagan’s name since Clay was not a president. Other mountains in the range are: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Eisenhower and Pierce.
"Ronald Reagan is one of the greatest presidents we ever had," said Rep. Kenneth Weyler, a Kingston Republican.
Opponents said it is premature to memorialize the nation’s 40th president since he isn’t dead. Reagan celebrated his 92nd birthday last month.
The federal process to change mountain names can’t start until five years after a person’s death, they added.

Clay was a statesman in the 1800s. He was nicknamed the Great Pacificator for finding solutions that postponed the Civil War.
Spang noted the Appalachian Mountain Club doesn’t include the peak on its list of challenging 4,000-foot mountains because Mount Clay is only about 150 feet higher than the ridge line. That’s important to climbing enthusiasts who spend years climbing 4,000-foot peaks in the White Mountains.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/0314 ... /17596.htm

Mount Clay on Web
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... mount+clay

Mount Clay at Topozone (5,532 feet)
http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.28583&lon=-71.31639


We discussed an earlier unsuccessful proposal to rename a different Mount Washington subpeak (Boott Spurr) for Reagan
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Ken Akerman
Ken Akerman

March 14th, 2003, 7:37 pm #2

For a current listing of dedications in honor of President Reagan, go to <a href=http://www.reaganlegacy.org/dedications ... htm>Ronald Reagan Legacy Project</a>.
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Steve Gruhn
Steve Gruhn

March 15th, 2003, 12:35 am #3

How about: The National Debt, brought to you by Ronald Reagan?
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Ken Akerman
Ken Akerman

March 15th, 2003, 12:39 am #4

Reagan also ended the Cold War and his policies improved that nation's economy, among other accomplishments. (End of political discourse - I will not reply any more to this thread).
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Mark H.
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March 15th, 2003, 2:53 am #5

CONCORD - The House voted Thursday to scratch Mount Clay off maps of the Presidential Range and pencil in Mount Reagan.
The House voted 213-130 to change the name in honor of former President Reagan. The Senate next considers the bill.
The peak is in the White Mountains about a mile from Mount Washington, the highest mountain in the Northeast.
Supporters said it is a fitting memorial to substitute Reagan’s name since Clay was not a president. Other mountains in the range are: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Eisenhower and Pierce.
"Ronald Reagan is one of the greatest presidents we ever had," said Rep. Kenneth Weyler, a Kingston Republican.
Opponents said it is premature to memorialize the nation’s 40th president since he isn’t dead. Reagan celebrated his 92nd birthday last month.
The federal process to change mountain names can’t start until five years after a person’s death, they added.

Clay was a statesman in the 1800s. He was nicknamed the Great Pacificator for finding solutions that postponed the Civil War.
Spang noted the Appalachian Mountain Club doesn’t include the peak on its list of challenging 4,000-foot mountains because Mount Clay is only about 150 feet higher than the ridge line. That’s important to climbing enthusiasts who spend years climbing 4,000-foot peaks in the White Mountains.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/0314 ... /17596.htm

Mount Clay on Web
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... mount+clay

Mount Clay at Topozone (5,532 feet)
http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.28583&lon=-71.31639


We discussed an earlier unsuccessful proposal to rename a different Mount Washington subpeak (Boott Spurr) for Reagan
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/mes ... 1035864510
A great American who is largely if not completely forgotten now gets his name booted off a minor peak of a New England mountain range. Talk about no respect for those who built this country. I think it would be appropriate to rename Black Mt in his honor (before Reagan gets it, of course).
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March 18th, 2003, 9:35 pm #6

CONCORD - The House voted Thursday to scratch Mount Clay off maps of the Presidential Range and pencil in Mount Reagan.
The House voted 213-130 to change the name in honor of former President Reagan. The Senate next considers the bill.
The peak is in the White Mountains about a mile from Mount Washington, the highest mountain in the Northeast.
Supporters said it is a fitting memorial to substitute Reagan’s name since Clay was not a president. Other mountains in the range are: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Eisenhower and Pierce.
"Ronald Reagan is one of the greatest presidents we ever had," said Rep. Kenneth Weyler, a Kingston Republican.
Opponents said it is premature to memorialize the nation’s 40th president since he isn’t dead. Reagan celebrated his 92nd birthday last month.
The federal process to change mountain names can’t start until five years after a person’s death, they added.

Clay was a statesman in the 1800s. He was nicknamed the Great Pacificator for finding solutions that postponed the Civil War.
Spang noted the Appalachian Mountain Club doesn’t include the peak on its list of challenging 4,000-foot mountains because Mount Clay is only about 150 feet higher than the ridge line. That’s important to climbing enthusiasts who spend years climbing 4,000-foot peaks in the White Mountains.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/0314 ... /17596.htm

Mount Clay on Web
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... mount+clay

Mount Clay at Topozone (5,532 feet)
http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.28583&lon=-71.31639


We discussed an earlier unsuccessful proposal to rename a different Mount Washington subpeak (Boott Spurr) for Reagan
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/mes ... 1035864510
Roger Payne, executive secretary of the U.S. Board on Geologic Names said Friday, "there is one policy to which there is never an exception made by the board . . . No natural feature can be named for a living person."

Payne, a USGS employee, said the geologic names board is a volunteer organization made up of federal employees.

He said it would take an act of Congress to make this change sooner than five years after Reagan's death.

"It can't be incidental language or an amendment to another bill. It has to be a bill on this subject all by itself," said Payne. Except for reservoirs, the only time that happened involved a site in California named for a woman whose name Payne couldn't remember. Ouch.

The board only acts on formal requests, Payne said. So if the Senate goes with the House and Gov. Craig Benson signs the bill into law, somebody's going to have to head to Payne's office in five years.

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March 21st, 2003, 3:53 am #7

CONCORD - The House voted Thursday to scratch Mount Clay off maps of the Presidential Range and pencil in Mount Reagan.
The House voted 213-130 to change the name in honor of former President Reagan. The Senate next considers the bill.
The peak is in the White Mountains about a mile from Mount Washington, the highest mountain in the Northeast.
Supporters said it is a fitting memorial to substitute Reagan’s name since Clay was not a president. Other mountains in the range are: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Eisenhower and Pierce.
"Ronald Reagan is one of the greatest presidents we ever had," said Rep. Kenneth Weyler, a Kingston Republican.
Opponents said it is premature to memorialize the nation’s 40th president since he isn’t dead. Reagan celebrated his 92nd birthday last month.
The federal process to change mountain names can’t start until five years after a person’s death, they added.

Clay was a statesman in the 1800s. He was nicknamed the Great Pacificator for finding solutions that postponed the Civil War.
Spang noted the Appalachian Mountain Club doesn’t include the peak on its list of challenging 4,000-foot mountains because Mount Clay is only about 150 feet higher than the ridge line. That’s important to climbing enthusiasts who spend years climbing 4,000-foot peaks in the White Mountains.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/0314 ... /17596.htm

Mount Clay on Web
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... mount+clay

Mount Clay at Topozone (5,532 feet)
http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.28583&lon=-71.31639


We discussed an earlier unsuccessful proposal to rename a different Mount Washington subpeak (Boott Spurr) for Reagan
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/mes ... 1035864510
Since NH legislators can't shove Henry Clay aside and name this hillock after the Acting President while he's technically still alive, they might more appropriately honor his legacy by commemorating his greatest movie role. (We can always call Nancy and see if she just says no.) Mt Bonzo sounds better anyway.
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Ken Akerman
Ken Akerman

March 21st, 2003, 7:54 am #8

I thought that Reagan's most famous movie role was as Notre Dame football star George Gipp, in the movie <a href=http://www.filmsite.org/knut.html>Knute Rockne: All American</a> (1940). That's how Reagan earned the nickname "Gipper".

Ken
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-adam
-adam

March 21st, 2003, 2:02 pm #9

A tally of "user ratings" votes on Internet Movie Db (imdb.com):

Knute Rockne: 129 votes
Bedtime for Bonzo: 154 votes

"Knute Rockne" does score a higher average (6.6/10 vs 4.7/10), but if popularity is simply the number of people who've seen the movie, then IMDb votes would lean toward "Bonzo".

IMDb links:
Ronald Reagan:
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Reagan,%20Ronald
Bedtime for Bonzo:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0043325
Knute Rockne: All American:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0032676

I didn't go through the whole list of Reagan movies, so there could be another contender.

Either way, I happen to think Henry Clay's name should stay on the maps.

-adam
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-adam
-adam

March 21st, 2003, 2:31 pm #10

Google search for:

"Knute Rockne: All American" returns 2,150 results
"Bedtime for Bonzo" returns 2,410 results

I promise I'm done with this thread now.

-adam
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