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FAMAS Replacement

Joined: February 1st, 2005, 10:45 pm

November 23rd, 2009, 5:50 pm #1

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



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Joined: October 25th, 2003, 6:01 pm

November 23rd, 2009, 6:06 pm #2

L'armée de terre rencontre de sérieuses difficultés avec les munitions de 5,56 mm destinées au fusil d'assaut Famas (photo David Monniaux). Plusieurs militaires ont été blessés au cours d'exercice, dont certains au visage. Au sein de l'armée de terre, on reconnait "qu'il y a eu des blessés, mais rien d'extremement grave". Une source évoque le chiffre de 32 cas. Suffisamment en tout cas pour que l'état-major prenne, au début de l'année et de manière assez discrète, la décision d'interdire l'emploi de cette munition, connue sous le nom de F3.

Dans sa dernière édition, la lettre d'information TTU avance le chiffre d' "une cinquantaine d'incidents de tirs depuis 2006", un chiffre que ne conteste pas vraiment l'armée de terre. Un militaire, ineterrogé par ce blog, parle d'"une moyenne de deux incidents pour un million de cartouches tirées". Cela semble peu, sauf lorsqu'on sait qu'en 2007, l'armée de terre a tiré un total de 35 millions de cartouches de Famas - ce qui ferait 70 incidents dans l'année.

Une enquête technique est actuellement en cours, mais ses résultats ne sont pas encore connus. Selon un officier, le problème viendrait de la composition métallique de l'étui de la munition, dans un alliage (laiton) a priori moins résistant que l'acier des modèles précédents. Les munitions de 5,56 mm sont un standard international (Otan) et peuvent être employées par les armes du même calibre. Or, le fusil d'assaut français FAMAS a ce que les spécialistes appelle une "culasse non calée", ce qui entraine plus de pression sur l'étui de la munition au moment du tir. Trop de pression, parfois, d'où les incidents.

L'utilisation de la munition F3 est donc pour l'instant interdite et les militaires doivent utiliser les stocks de leur ancienne munition F1 de fabrication française. Le problème est que la France a complètement renoncé à fabriquer ses propres munitions, après la fermeture de l'établissement du Giat au Mans, il y a une dizaine d'années. Il faut donc les acheter à l'étranger, au Royaume-Uni, en Allemagne, en Israel ainsi qu'aux Emirats arabes unis. Selon de premières informations, non recoupées, ce seraient les munitions en provenance de ce dernier pays (société ADCOM) qui posseraient le plus de problème. Non pas qu'elles soient mal conçues, mais elles ne sont pas réellement adaptées au fusil français. Tout cela ne va pas sans difficulté lorsque l'on évoque le sujet : les Emirats sont des alliés de la France et surtout un futur client pour le Rafale...


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Joined: June 20th, 2007, 1:12 pm

November 23rd, 2009, 6:54 pm #3

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
"The problem is that France has completely given up making his own ammunition"


lol...i could make a joke about this...but i wont.

Anyway, the above story must be COMPLETELY UNTRUE AND IS TROLLING PROPAGANDA PIECE BY ANTI FRENCH TROLLS....CUS ALL FRENCH EQUIPMENT IS SUPERIOR AND NEVER GOES WRONG AND COSTS HALF AS MUCH....

Oooops, sorry, slipped into Sampaix mode there.....
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Joined: December 18th, 2003, 4:14 pm

November 23rd, 2009, 10:12 pm #4

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
CUS ALL FRENCH EQUIPMENT IS SUPERIOR AND NEVER GOES WRONG AND COSTS HALF AS MUCH....
The problem is with non-french amunition

More seriously, thanks to our socialist governement of that time, we lost the know how of light weapons. But honnestly, is it a huge problem ?
FAMAS has some advantages, sure, but now, is quite obsolete and now, that stupid problem. In fact, one of the best point of the famas (good acuracy at long range) is now Sci Fi now.

Ok, let's finish that joke of 100% french decision when we don't have enough money for it, HK and FN has excellent products in shelves.
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Joined: July 13th, 2004, 9:35 am

November 23rd, 2009, 10:19 pm #5

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
Both the SCAR and HK416 are excellent assault rifles. There's only a few that can match the quality of these weapons.

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Joined: May 6th, 2004, 5:53 pm

November 23rd, 2009, 11:24 pm #6

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
I think it is more a complement than a subsitute what French are looking for. Both designs mentioned are non-bullpup.

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Joined: August 29th, 2003, 3:32 pm

November 23rd, 2009, 11:24 pm #7

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
Strange the MoD isn't interested by the FN2000 as far it is a bull pup, thus a familiar design for french soldiers!
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Joined: May 26th, 2005, 5:56 am

November 24th, 2009, 12:16 am #8

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
if france decided to replace bullpups with conventional rifle/carbine, it won't be the first time the bulls lost favor to carbine.

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Joined: February 1st, 2005, 10:45 pm

November 24th, 2009, 12:23 am #9

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
The F2000 is quite "heavy" (40% heavier than a M4 for example). If you take a pimped out M4 than the weight is probably similar to the F2000.



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Joined: July 13th, 2004, 9:35 am

November 24th, 2009, 12:28 am #10

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
^^Then again if you add the sights/optics, lights and pac-4's etc to the F2000, it'll weigh much heavier than a pimped out M4.

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Joined: December 18th, 2003, 4:14 pm

August 31st, 2016, 1:35 pm #11

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
It seems that HK won the competition.
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Joined: November 22nd, 2012, 8:05 am

August 31st, 2016, 2:46 pm #12

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
Took em lomg enough...
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Joined: May 27th, 2013, 7:52 am

August 31st, 2016, 2:52 pm #13

The French are looking for a new rifle, the candidates are:
-FN SCAR
-HK416 (1800 already bought)

The evaluations will take place early 2010. It must also be said that the French are already using HK416 in limited numbers in Afghanistan and by a lot of French SF. Also note that the Félin program uses the FAMAS as its assault rifle. The FAMAS has earned itself a bad reputation due to inadequate ammunition (manufactured outside France).

Original source in French: http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/11/f ... debut.html



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.
F2000 is so ergonomically perfect. Had it in my arms few years ago, you feel it like a part of your body.
Very easy to get fast aiming, not heavy at all and looks so gooood.
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