CIRIT missile

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Joined: January 1st, 2005, 9:39 pm

June 6th, 2012, 10:36 pm #1




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
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June 6th, 2012, 10:49 pm #2

Cosst effective... hmm.

how much one missile ?

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Joined: March 29th, 2004, 11:29 am

June 6th, 2012, 10:55 pm #3




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Nutuk do you have any idea when mass production will begin?
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June 6th, 2012, 11:00 pm #4




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Land based Cirit on a tracked vehickle should be considered also.

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June 7th, 2012, 1:12 am #5




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Cirit missile will cost around $5000-6000 meanwhile Hellfire missile costs $58.000 per unit

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June 7th, 2012, 4:50 am #6




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
I don't know the cost of the CIRIT however like with everything the cost per unit depends also on the production rate. Till now the missile was produced in lowrate but once the T-129's come into action and the landforces going to order them en masse the unit price will go steeply down.

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June 7th, 2012, 10:02 am #7




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Cost of Cirit and UMTAS missiles is explained here, see the title "T-129 ve Yeni Nesil Türk Füzeleri"

http://trsavunma.com/files/TRS-T-129.pdf



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June 8th, 2012, 1:23 am #8




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Cirit is a very good and versatile anti-personnel weapon. The engineers who developed this really understand how a helicopter pilot engages targets. Future upgrades should focus on improving range and accuracy while reducing costs.

I would say versions this weapon should be widely integrated into many platforms. The light helicopter that we're planning to develop should also be able to fire a few of these.

We have the AKP and SSM to thank for these developments. 30 years ago most of our weapons were used second-hand US equipment.


My only concern is how much of the guidance system is produced locally? Do we import some basic electronic components from China to produce the Cirit? The US military is having real problems with Chinese electronics, the US found that a lot of US imported chips contain spyware. A lot of the basic electronics in US military hardware is China-imported.

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June 8th, 2012, 9:05 am #9




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
A company called "Goodrich Corporation" makes the sensors.I think it is an American company.

The company says that it received the first orders from roketsan.

http://www.goodrich.com/Goodrich/Enterp ... IT-Missile
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June 8th, 2012, 9:09 am #10




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Senin yapacagina soksam sikimsan...

another fcuking indegenous BS..

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June 8th, 2012, 9:18 am #11




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
^^ It ain't like that. They are buying foreign to reduce the costs of Initial production to meet demands of SSM. After they'll go serial probably a more local subsystem will be selected.

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June 8th, 2012, 3:30 pm #12




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
it is beyond me how you can compare costs of hellfire and cirit

if anything, compare cirit to those guided ffar rockets (apkws) because hellfire is dedicated ANTI TANK missile, bigger than those
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June 8th, 2012, 4:00 pm #13




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
It is very normal to compare the prices of Hellfire and Cirit missiles, because the high price of the Hellfire is the main motive of the design and development of 2.75" laser guided missiles like APKWS, DAGR, Talon and Cirit. Only Cirit is an exception with being an all-new design rather than a guidance kit applied to a standard 2.75" rocket. Such missiles are developed to spare Hellfires for bigger / more valuable, pinpoint targets and also decrease expenditure.

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June 8th, 2012, 4:31 pm #14




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
I would like to see Cirit being developed with an IIR sensor, would be one hell of a missile for naval targets..

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June 11th, 2012, 9:41 am #15




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
nice

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June 11th, 2012, 2:32 pm #16




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
My only concern is how much of the guidance system is produced locally?

Because there is almost no Microcontroller technology in Turkey, we usually outsource the brains of our "indigenous" systems.

TUBITAK tries to change this thing.

First, we need to build indigenous brains for our systems. Then we must focus on the systems.

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June 11th, 2012, 2:37 pm #17




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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Step by step guys.

We are on the right way!

We can not have everything at one time.

Step by step

We will gain our goal to be fully indepentend!

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