Which books of the bible are symbolic, and which a literal?

Which books of the bible are symbolic, and which a literal?

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February 11th, 2010, 10:09 pm #1


Seems a fair question that should be easily answered. Reality sure seems to be quite the opposite.
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February 11th, 2010, 10:18 pm #2

when a man is dead spiritually, i.e. not conscious of God and his truth, then he can not see or enter the Kingdom of Heaven, which is a REAL place and all reality is literally true, even if we can't see it without spiritual eyes.

Jesus said he whose EYE is single (spiritual) his whole body is full of light; Yet he whose light is darkness is in great darkness. If we think the "light of the sun" is the LITERAL LIGHT we don't understand literal;

the SUN is actually SYMBOLIC of GODS ETERNAL LIGHT

so the incredible thing is this........the SEEN things are TEMPORAL and therefore "symbolic" and the UNSEEN things are ETERNAL and therefore literally true, even if we can't see them with our physical eyes.

The Bible talks of LITERAL TRUTH, but how much someone can see it depends on how far their eyes have been opened to the "Spirit of God", the Spirit of truth that leads into all truth.

if truth is not literal to someone, but rather symbolic, then they don't understand REALITY yet.
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February 11th, 2010, 10:26 pm #3


Answer 1: It's literal only when the symbolism is properly intrepretted.

Which is a rather creative spin on "It's literal, except where it's symbolic".
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February 11th, 2010, 10:44 pm #4

Seems a fair question that should be easily answered. Reality sure seems to be quite the opposite.
Noob,

Stuff was written which writers deemed to be pertinent to people in their own time. Some was fiction, some was revelation and forecasting, other stuff was their own history and some of it was contrived history for the sake of gaining control.

If you were to ask which books TODAY are symbolic and which are literal ... what could one say? It's all mixed. People write literal stuff and use metaphor for emphasis. It was the same way back then.

James Michener for example, wrote quite a few "historic" books, posited as fictional. 2000 years from now, if anyone read Michener's works, what could they derive from them? Where they literal or symbolic?

Take the book of Daniel ...

It could well be an early Michener-type of work.

-Vince

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February 11th, 2010, 11:00 pm #5

Answer 1: It's literal only when the symbolism is properly intrepretted.

Which is a rather creative spin on "It's literal, except where it's symbolic".
take the sun for instance; we would say it is very literal, but the Bible says the light of the sun and moon are not literal, but symbolic of the TRUE light in the world which is Christ:

sorry that was confusing for you:
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February 11th, 2010, 11:05 pm #6

Seems a fair question that should be easily answered. Reality sure seems to be quite the opposite.
It is basically self explanatory. Does it appear literal or symbolic or figurative? One fundamental rule to determine whether the language is literal or figurative is: take every statement in the Bible as literal when it is at all possible and where it is clear that it is literal; otherwise, it is figurative. In other words, what cannot be literal must be figurative. The subject matter itself as expressed in human language will always make this clear. Maybe not what you
were seeking but it is also apparent that one does not spiritualize other books, or make every literal statement in them to be symbolic and mystical, and there is no excuse for them to do this with the Bible either.
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February 11th, 2010, 11:06 pm #7

take the sun for instance; we would say it is very literal, but the Bible says the light of the sun and moon are not literal, but symbolic of the TRUE light in the world which is Christ:

sorry that was confusing for you:
hello Y understood. It's good to see you in print again.
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February 11th, 2010, 11:59 pm #8

It is basically self explanatory. Does it appear literal or symbolic or figurative? One fundamental rule to determine whether the language is literal or figurative is: take every statement in the Bible as literal when it is at all possible and where it is clear that it is literal; otherwise, it is figurative. In other words, what cannot be literal must be figurative. The subject matter itself as expressed in human language will always make this clear. Maybe not what you
were seeking but it is also apparent that one does not spiritualize other books, or make every literal statement in them to be symbolic and mystical, and there is no excuse for them to do this with the Bible either.
All the "coded ciphers" and other "higher order symbolic references" that people try to glean out of book, don't add up to much, imho.

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February 11th, 2010, 11:59 pm #9

Noob,

Stuff was written which writers deemed to be pertinent to people in their own time. Some was fiction, some was revelation and forecasting, other stuff was their own history and some of it was contrived history for the sake of gaining control.

If you were to ask which books TODAY are symbolic and which are literal ... what could one say? It's all mixed. People write literal stuff and use metaphor for emphasis. It was the same way back then.

James Michener for example, wrote quite a few "historic" books, posited as fictional. 2000 years from now, if anyone read Michener's works, what could they derive from them? Where they literal or symbolic?

Take the book of Daniel ...

It could well be an early Michener-type of work.

-Vince
Not really "getting at" anything.
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February 12th, 2010, 12:02 am #10

All the "coded ciphers" and other "higher order symbolic references" that people try to glean out of book, don't add up to much, imho.
It just about says it all imv.
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