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February 20th, 2010, 4:03 pm #1

This place is so dark, yet there are individuals that can't stay away. They think the place is diseased, but are here very frequently.

Does that make sense?

If there was a porn channel on your TV that disgusted you, would you spend a good part of your viewing time watching it? If yes, then are you really disgusted, or is there some other attraction?

Trying to understand here, not snipe.
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February 20th, 2010, 4:18 pm #2

but often the natural world gives us understanding of the spiritual. Children are afraid of the dark. There is darkness here as I see it. That doesn't mean there is no light here either. All has not yet been revealed. Does any one of us know all the truth? I doubt it.
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February 20th, 2010, 6:50 pm #3

This place is so dark, yet there are individuals that can't stay away. They think the place is diseased, but are here very frequently.

Does that make sense?

If there was a porn channel on your TV that disgusted you, would you spend a good part of your viewing time watching it? If yes, then are you really disgusted, or is there some other attraction?

Trying to understand here, not snipe.
One proper post by Mondo, Noob, Nucc, G, etc. (notice I mention not the females :-) and even ten pages are bright.

The world has much evil...why should every post be bright.

Two things me do not like muchly, site deletions for no logical reason and hard guy talk.

Hard guy talk makes me tired all over, post thy name, address and phone number...then maybe I will take thee serious...period! Me, I will not travel even twenty feet to hurt another human being...I will post my name address and phone number (when I have one :-) on the net any day of the week...for Battle, come to me...for I shall not harm thee muchly and thy spirit shall advance...period.

I come to this site because of those who post here and the words of wisdom that show up once in a while.

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February 20th, 2010, 7:17 pm #4

This place is so dark, yet there are individuals that can't stay away. They think the place is diseased, but are here very frequently.

Does that make sense?

If there was a porn channel on your TV that disgusted you, would you spend a good part of your viewing time watching it? If yes, then are you really disgusted, or is there some other attraction?

Trying to understand here, not snipe.
I see lots of stuff, mostly good, the rest rather neutral. Pertaining to the subject of the post, I would say I see folks trying to hide part of themselves in the light not really understanding or accepting the fact that the light doesn't work that way. Under the light, all is revealed. Kinda how I see things, anyway.

I'd like to understand better as well.
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February 20th, 2010, 7:27 pm #5

but often the natural world gives us understanding of the spiritual. Children are afraid of the dark. There is darkness here as I see it. That doesn't mean there is no light here either. All has not yet been revealed. Does any one of us know all the truth? I doubt it.
M> There is darkness here as I see it. That doesn't mean there is no light here either. All has not yet been revealed. Does any one of us know all the truth? I doubt it.

N> I agree there IS darkness here AND there is LIGHT. However, look at this verse


John 1:5
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (NAS)

The darkness CANNOT comprehend the LIGHT

A couple of chapters later CHRIST HIMSELF says;...


John 3:19-21
19 "And this is the JUDGMENT, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil.
20 "For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 "But he who practices the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."
(NAS)

These verses actually give you an idea of where you stand before Christ.

1. The light (Christ) has come into the world.

2. Men (by nature) are unwilling to come to light easily because that involves CHANGE and possibly giving up the things we like to do that would be called SIN (evil) whether they are by action or by thought.

3. However, there are those whom God foreknew, that WOULD COME TO THE LIGHT because they PRACTICE the TRUTH and those who DO will show that HIS DEEDS are manifested as having come from God.

The DARKNESS won't see this, BUT those IN THE LIGHT "WILL" if they are truly in the LIGHT. It MAY NOT BE INSTANT because nobody is born instantly with an Einstein mind, but as a person GROWS (MATURES) in the light, unity of the Spirit begins to show.

Now you may not agree with me and there is nothing I can do about what you FREELY CHOOSE to believe, however, I don't expect you to just blindly accept what I say. I want you to test me and ask me challenging questions. If I don't know the answer, it's best to be honest and just say I don't know, BUT IF I DO KNOW the answer, I tell you.



Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal

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February 20th, 2010, 7:42 pm #6

I see lots of stuff, mostly good, the rest rather neutral. Pertaining to the subject of the post, I would say I see folks trying to hide part of themselves in the light not really understanding or accepting the fact that the light doesn't work that way. Under the light, all is revealed. Kinda how I see things, anyway.

I'd like to understand better as well.
with Noob.

Just my own thing, haven't read it anywhere, but I'm left with the impression that Evangelical, Pentecostal Christians (not modern, mainstream Christianity) saw, in all sincerity, an opportunity through this medium to convert the Western world to their brand of Christianity.

Accustomed to nothing but agreement in their mutual admiration societies called religions, therefore convinced of their rightness, they came, with Bibles in hand and singing "Onward Christian Soldiers" into the modern world outside their churches. They ran headlong into those having done their homework.

But maybe it's true that God works in mysterious ways. By interacting with the 21st century world, the educated world, they have heard concepts, analogies, and comparisons to other religions, etc., they would never have heard otherwise. This means their evolution has been "speeded-up which means resistance to Humanity's acquiring Christ mind has also be speeded-up.
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February 20th, 2010, 7:46 pm #7

M> There is darkness here as I see it. That doesn't mean there is no light here either. All has not yet been revealed. Does any one of us know all the truth? I doubt it.

N> I agree there IS darkness here AND there is LIGHT. However, look at this verse


John 1:5
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (NAS)

The darkness CANNOT comprehend the LIGHT

A couple of chapters later CHRIST HIMSELF says;...


John 3:19-21
19 "And this is the JUDGMENT, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil.
20 "For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 "But he who practices the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."
(NAS)

These verses actually give you an idea of where you stand before Christ.

1. The light (Christ) has come into the world.

2. Men (by nature) are unwilling to come to light easily because that involves CHANGE and possibly giving up the things we like to do that would be called SIN (evil) whether they are by action or by thought.

3. However, there are those whom God foreknew, that WOULD COME TO THE LIGHT because they PRACTICE the TRUTH and those who DO will show that HIS DEEDS are manifested as having come from God.

The DARKNESS won't see this, BUT those IN THE LIGHT "WILL" if they are truly in the LIGHT. It MAY NOT BE INSTANT because nobody is born instantly with an Einstein mind, but as a person GROWS (MATURES) in the light, unity of the Spirit begins to show.

Now you may not agree with me and there is nothing I can do about what you FREELY CHOOSE to believe, however, I don't expect you to just blindly accept what I say. I want you to test me and ask me challenging questions. If I don't know the answer, it's best to be honest and just say I don't know, BUT IF I DO KNOW the answer, I tell you.



Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal
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February 20th, 2010, 8:23 pm #8

with Noob.

Just my own thing, haven't read it anywhere, but I'm left with the impression that Evangelical, Pentecostal Christians (not modern, mainstream Christianity) saw, in all sincerity, an opportunity through this medium to convert the Western world to their brand of Christianity.

Accustomed to nothing but agreement in their mutual admiration societies called religions, therefore convinced of their rightness, they came, with Bibles in hand and singing "Onward Christian Soldiers" into the modern world outside their churches. They ran headlong into those having done their homework.

But maybe it's true that God works in mysterious ways. By interacting with the 21st century world, the educated world, they have heard concepts, analogies, and comparisons to other religions, etc., they would never have heard otherwise. This means their evolution has been "speeded-up which means resistance to Humanity's acquiring Christ mind has also be speeded-up.
God gave humans the truth, and the devil came and he said, 'Let's give it a name and call it religion.'


Seems to me truth has been hijacked, taken over. Like nuclear technology, there are things that can be used for good or for evil.

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February 20th, 2010, 9:24 pm #9

M> There is darkness here as I see it. That doesn't mean there is no light here either. All has not yet been revealed. Does any one of us know all the truth? I doubt it.

N> I agree there IS darkness here AND there is LIGHT. However, look at this verse


John 1:5
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (NAS)

The darkness CANNOT comprehend the LIGHT

A couple of chapters later CHRIST HIMSELF says;...


John 3:19-21
19 "And this is the JUDGMENT, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil.
20 "For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 "But he who practices the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."
(NAS)

These verses actually give you an idea of where you stand before Christ.

1. The light (Christ) has come into the world.

2. Men (by nature) are unwilling to come to light easily because that involves CHANGE and possibly giving up the things we like to do that would be called SIN (evil) whether they are by action or by thought.

3. However, there are those whom God foreknew, that WOULD COME TO THE LIGHT because they PRACTICE the TRUTH and those who DO will show that HIS DEEDS are manifested as having come from God.

The DARKNESS won't see this, BUT those IN THE LIGHT "WILL" if they are truly in the LIGHT. It MAY NOT BE INSTANT because nobody is born instantly with an Einstein mind, but as a person GROWS (MATURES) in the light, unity of the Spirit begins to show.

Now you may not agree with me and there is nothing I can do about what you FREELY CHOOSE to believe, however, I don't expect you to just blindly accept what I say. I want you to test me and ask me challenging questions. If I don't know the answer, it's best to be honest and just say I don't know, BUT IF I DO KNOW the answer, I tell you.



Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal
John 1:5
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

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February 20th, 2010, 10:40 pm #10

I see lots of stuff, mostly good, the rest rather neutral. Pertaining to the subject of the post, I would say I see folks trying to hide part of themselves in the light not really understanding or accepting the fact that the light doesn't work that way. Under the light, all is revealed. Kinda how I see things, anyway.

I'd like to understand better as well.
Seems to me that there is an abundance of that here. At least some earnest seeking of truth.

I look around the forums and I see more Biblical discussion here than most anywhere. Not sure what to make of that, maybe nothing to be made of it. But it is an observation, interesting or not.

Hope you're having a good weekend.

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