How to discern?

How to discern?

JVH
Joined: July 20th, 2009, 1:33 pm

March 26th, 2012, 9:27 pm #1

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In order to discern fact from fiction, true from false, one must know what fact is. In order to know what fact is - to be able to recognize fact for what it is; to establish it, especially when not directly obvious - one must know what the properties are that define fact, and it helps to know what fallacies are too; we discern the one by the other.

Here's the clincher:

When you are asked to cite the properties that define fact, chances are - although it is very likely you think you have a pretty good beat on what 'fact' entails - you'll discover you can't. Go ahead, take it to the test.....................

 

Now what?
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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : falsifiability
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


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Iceman
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March 27th, 2012, 12:46 am #2

Ask Tim. He's the authority on everything here.
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One!life
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March 27th, 2012, 3:19 pm #3

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In order to discern fact from fiction, true from false, one must know what fact is. In order to know what fact is - to be able to recognize fact for what it is; to establish it, especially when not directly obvious - one must know what the properties are that define fact, and it helps to know what fallacies are too; we discern the one by the other.

Here's the clincher:

When you are asked to cite the properties that define fact, chances are - although it is very likely you think you have a pretty good beat on what 'fact' entails - you'll discover you can't. Go ahead, take it to the test.....................

 

Now what?
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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : falsifiability
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


New!! Improved!! Now With CD-Formula!!


CD: short for inevitability
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March 27th, 2012, 4:02 pm #4

Ever try loving someone who continiously abuses you? It's a nice Christain concept, but not very realistic.
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March 27th, 2012, 4:22 pm #5

icemanlife share'd > Well Onelife!
March 27 2012 at 12:02 PM
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Ever try loving someone who continiously abuses you?

One!life > abuses comes in many different forms!
But yes! is your answer!

icemanlife share'd > It's a nice Christain concept,
but not very realistic.

One!life > christain concept!
icemanlife: Please do explan farther, Thanks!

Love ya, icemanlife!

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JVH
Joined: July 20th, 2009, 1:33 pm

March 27th, 2012, 4:50 pm #6

Ask Tim. He's the authority on everything here.
 

.... the post addresses all who visit, so........


rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : falsifiability
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


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CD: short for inevitability
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JVH
Joined: July 20th, 2009, 1:33 pm

March 27th, 2012, 5:14 pm #7

 

... let's change location, and go to another forum.

I bet, when I click the link, I'll find you have changed the subject as well.

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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : falsifiability
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


New!! Improved!! Now With CD-Formula!!


CD: short for inevitability
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March 27th, 2012, 8:22 pm #8

icemanlife share'd > Well Onelife!
March 27 2012 at 12:02 PM
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Response to One!life > Ponder'ns!
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Ever try loving someone who continiously abuses you?

One!life > abuses comes in many different forms!
But yes! is your answer!

icemanlife share'd > It's a nice Christain concept,
but not very realistic.

One!life > christain concept!
icemanlife: Please do explan farther, Thanks!

Love ya, icemanlife!

Love All As ONE!
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I gave up that kind thing long ago. Loving someone who abuses is self abuse and serves no point and does no good.

I agree there are many different forms of abuse, but they all tender the same result. Turning the cheek only gets more bruises.
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March 28th, 2012, 12:11 pm #9

Re: Yes! ! !
March 27 2012 at 4:22 PM
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Response to One!life > icemanlife: yes! daily!
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I gave up that kind thing long ago.
Loving someone who abuses
is self abuse
and serves no point
and does no good.

One!life > That's like say'n,
they shouldn't have been born!
I can't open the womb for another,
only my own!

icemanlife share'd > I agree
there are many different forms of abuse,
but they all tender the same result.
Turning the cheek
only gets more bruises.

One!life > Some have to wake-up, sooner or later!
If we tell a child not to touch the fire!
But they touch it anyways,
they learn that for themselves,
why we told them that.

Love "will sink in" once it's touch'd also!
A seed needs to be plant'd first, before it can grow, Yes!

My kindness, is free to those, who wish to have it!

Love ya, icemanlife!

Love All As ONE!
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March 28th, 2012, 4:15 pm #10

One!life > That's like say'n,
they shouldn't have been born!
I can't open the womb for another,
only my own!

That's hardly what I said or inferred. Turning away from abuse prevents harm to whoever is on the receiving end and harm to the abuser. Continueing to love them by accepting it is like continueing to feed a herion addict herion. Unlike what Christianity teaches, life needs balance. The concept of retribution or hate, even just dislike are a result of abuse and if that becomes part of the equation then it is harmful for both the giver and receiver. Changing people is not my domain, or obligation. We are each responsible for who we are and no one else.


One!life > Some have to wake-up, sooner or later!
If we tell a child not to touch the fire!
But they touch it anyways,
they learn that for themselves,
why we told them that.

Most kids play with matches regardless of our advice. Sooner or later they realize that playing with fire is painful. Thus they stop. Turning the other cheek is like getting burned and never learning by saying fires O.K. until you are crisp all over.

Love "will sink in" once it's touch'd also!
A seed needs to be plant'd first, before it can grow, Yes!

Love by and large is a part of life: In fact it is life. It needs to be nourished. The seed when planted is full of love, but if the soil is too acid the seed will not grow, and if it does, the plant will be unhealthy and wither.

Like I said -Everything must have BALANCE.

One!life > My kindness, is free to those, who wish to have it!

Mine is as well. But kindness cannot be received by those bitter and who repay with contempt. I alone am in control of my mind and energy. Why should I waste it?

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