counting the cost of TRUE DISCIPLESHIP:

counting the cost of TRUE DISCIPLESHIP:

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March 31st, 2010, 2:38 pm #1


never take on more than you can CHEW
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March 31st, 2010, 3:42 pm #2

Check out Phil. 3:13.

The Christ said he didn't bring peace. He brought a sword. The ability to sever connections with past understanding and embrace the new, forgetting the things which lay behind, etc.

Esoteric (not exoteric) Buddhism and Hinduism taught 500 years B.C. (in the case of Buddhism, and some 3000 years B.C. in the case of Hinduism, the same thought. Buddhism and Hinduism call it "Discrimination."

At esoteric levels, ALL world religions teach the same thing.
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March 31st, 2010, 9:01 pm #3

they use different words
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April 1st, 2010, 3:51 pm #4

The words have yet to be coined, in any language, that even come near describing how wrong you are.

All religions, every scriptures of every religion, have the same teaching. Different words, symbols and allegories are used, but at the esoteric level of understanding, all mean the same.

The obvious fact that orthodox Christians, having deluded themselves into believing thay have been made privy to special, superior, spiritual information, refuse to accept the teachings in the Bible which do not support theur "INTERPRETATION" of the Bible, does not alter the fact that all world religions teach that we are Gods; that Christ, NOT JESUS, in us is the hope of glory. Your incapacity to grasp this is your problem, not ours.

Because of Buddhist (Esoteric, not Exoteric Buddhism) teaching, I understand where you, and many millions of others are on the path. You have made what we call the first initiation, what you call the birth of Christ. You solar plexus Chakra has opened, flooding your brain with a new and higher frequency charge. This electrical charge will bring you to your twelve year old Jeus-mind point of seeing the need to have this Jeus mind transfigured. From that point, mind cimes under the magnetic pull of our Cosmic Magnet within; that to which Psalm 82.6 makes reference. Our name (and it's just a name) for this Cosmic Magnet is the Monad.

A Center, or Chakra if one prefers the Hindu, is likened to a battery in which is stored the next spiritual stage on mind development. These Centers/Chakras are not physical things but vortices of enerby of a certain frequency. You have feen flooded with (also a hint as to the meaning of the Deluge) with electricity of a certain frequency (quality) and at this time, and for a while, maybe several lifetimes, you will feel as if God is sending you messages. It is not God sending you these messages. It is your mind quality.

Read my post on Truth. No, it did not originate in my head, but in the mind of someone who really has "let that mind which is in Christ be also in them." A Master of the Wisdom.
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April 1st, 2010, 4:39 pm #5

keep on keeping on:)
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April 1st, 2010, 4:47 pm #6

The words have yet to be coined, in any language, that even come near describing how wrong you are.

All religions, every scriptures of every religion, have the same teaching. Different words, symbols and allegories are used, but at the esoteric level of understanding, all mean the same.

The obvious fact that orthodox Christians, having deluded themselves into believing thay have been made privy to special, superior, spiritual information, refuse to accept the teachings in the Bible which do not support theur "INTERPRETATION" of the Bible, does not alter the fact that all world religions teach that we are Gods; that Christ, NOT JESUS, in us is the hope of glory. Your incapacity to grasp this is your problem, not ours.

Because of Buddhist (Esoteric, not Exoteric Buddhism) teaching, I understand where you, and many millions of others are on the path. You have made what we call the first initiation, what you call the birth of Christ. You solar plexus Chakra has opened, flooding your brain with a new and higher frequency charge. This electrical charge will bring you to your twelve year old Jeus-mind point of seeing the need to have this Jeus mind transfigured. From that point, mind cimes under the magnetic pull of our Cosmic Magnet within; that to which Psalm 82.6 makes reference. Our name (and it's just a name) for this Cosmic Magnet is the Monad.

A Center, or Chakra if one prefers the Hindu, is likened to a battery in which is stored the next spiritual stage on mind development. These Centers/Chakras are not physical things but vortices of enerby of a certain frequency. You have feen flooded with (also a hint as to the meaning of the Deluge) with electricity of a certain frequency (quality) and at this time, and for a while, maybe several lifetimes, you will feel as if God is sending you messages. It is not God sending you these messages. It is your mind quality.

Read my post on Truth. No, it did not originate in my head, but in the mind of someone who really has "let that mind which is in Christ be also in them." A Master of the Wisdom.
"The tendency of human beings to want to be right is what keeps the species from rapidly evolving. humans have walked the earth for millions of years, and in that time many have barely evolved past their most primitive behaviors."


All people everywhere are messengers, and their message is their life, lived.


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April 1st, 2010, 4:55 pm #7

keep on keeping on:)
I decided to take up quilt making
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April 2nd, 2010, 9:12 am #8

"The tendency of human beings to want to be right is what keeps the species from rapidly evolving. humans have walked the earth for millions of years, and in that time many have barely evolved past their most primitive behaviors."


All people everywhere are messengers, and their message is their life, lived.


Love
Jackie

Humans within all societies in all periods of history believed that their ideas on the nature of the real world were the most secure; that their ideas on religion, ethics, justice, politics, knowledge, the shape of reality and so on were the most enlightened.

Like us today, they were convinced that final knowledge was, at last, within reach. Like us, they pitied the people in earlier ages for not knowing the true facts.

Humans today pity their ancestors for being so ignorant and for that reason fail to see that their descendants will pity them for the same.



... the essence of truth; axiomatic

People are intrinsically intelligent.

When people are put together, they could become a herd.
When people turn a herd, they could become sheeple.
When people turn sheeple, they could become dumb animals.
When people turn dumb animals, they become treated as such.


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April 2nd, 2010, 9:17 am #9

The words have yet to be coined, in any language, that even come near describing how wrong you are.

All religions, every scriptures of every religion, have the same teaching. Different words, symbols and allegories are used, but at the esoteric level of understanding, all mean the same.

The obvious fact that orthodox Christians, having deluded themselves into believing thay have been made privy to special, superior, spiritual information, refuse to accept the teachings in the Bible which do not support theur "INTERPRETATION" of the Bible, does not alter the fact that all world religions teach that we are Gods; that Christ, NOT JESUS, in us is the hope of glory. Your incapacity to grasp this is your problem, not ours.

Because of Buddhist (Esoteric, not Exoteric Buddhism) teaching, I understand where you, and many millions of others are on the path. You have made what we call the first initiation, what you call the birth of Christ. You solar plexus Chakra has opened, flooding your brain with a new and higher frequency charge. This electrical charge will bring you to your twelve year old Jeus-mind point of seeing the need to have this Jeus mind transfigured. From that point, mind cimes under the magnetic pull of our Cosmic Magnet within; that to which Psalm 82.6 makes reference. Our name (and it's just a name) for this Cosmic Magnet is the Monad.

A Center, or Chakra if one prefers the Hindu, is likened to a battery in which is stored the next spiritual stage on mind development. These Centers/Chakras are not physical things but vortices of enerby of a certain frequency. You have feen flooded with (also a hint as to the meaning of the Deluge) with electricity of a certain frequency (quality) and at this time, and for a while, maybe several lifetimes, you will feel as if God is sending you messages. It is not God sending you these messages. It is your mind quality.

Read my post on Truth. No, it did not originate in my head, but in the mind of someone who really has "let that mind which is in Christ be also in them." A Master of the Wisdom.
"What man of sense will agree with the statement that the first, second and third day in which the evening and morning are named were without sun, moon and stars and the first day without a heaven?" - Origin

Propagate that an outdoor passion play; an annual celebration in which the cycle of life is symbolically being acted out - a common occurence in the ancient world - up to this very day even - was not a symbolic act but a real life event. Eventually, with or without force, the idea will sink in and the hypostatized passion play has entered the mind as utter reality and the main character as genuine historical.

That's how come there appear to exist secondhand accounts, and what might qualify as third- fourth- fifthhand accounts etc., about a historical and supernatural Jesus character but no firsthand, during-the-event accounts because firsthand accounts would tell us about reification of the main character of a passion play instead of a supernatural, real life event as portrayed in the NT.

'Every time we read in ecclesial books a tale of which its reality seems impossible; a story defying reason and common sense, be assured the tale to be an allegory; containing a universal truth or two, and the greater the absurdity of the tale, the deeper the possible wisdom.'

Yet, we do have accounts, prior accounts. It's just that they, much to the chagrin of Christian apologists, do not involve the supernatural Jesus character. They involve other supernatural 'sons of god' preceding the Jesus character, many by far, who 'were born', 'walked', 'performed', 'suffered', 'died', 'came back to life' etc. and all of them are anthropomorphizations relating the myth of the 'birth', 'death' and 'rebirth' of life; the solar system; the universe.

The Jesus myth is not the first, merely one of the last, in a long tradition of myths in the form of personifications conveying the aspects of the ever ongoing cycle of life, and all those myths tell us the same: the creation of life, its nature and its perpetuality.

'That which is called the Christian religion existed among the ancients and never did not exist from the beginning of the human race until Christ 'came in the flesh', at which time the true religion, which already existed, began to be called Christianity.' - St. Augustine

People are intrinsically intelligent.

When people are put together, they could become a herd.
When people turn a herd, they could become sheeple.
When people turn sheeple, they could become dumb animals.
When people turn dumb animals, they become treated as such.


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