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May 21st, 2008, 1:47 pm #1

..Mantis Kenpo uploaded by Mr. Rahh.

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May 21st, 2008, 2:43 pm #2

There is a touch of the military in that as I recall, most of those movements are just a basic drill pattern and is similar to many other groups. Is in AK I am not sure for I am not an AKer.

One of the best schools for that tempo that I attended for about a year was a school that taught straight Okinawan forms, Shorin Ryu. Not much circular, very similar to that.

Gary
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May 21st, 2008, 3:50 pm #3

..Mantis Kenpo uploaded by Mr. Rahh.

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James Hawkins III, SI
Hawkins Kenpo Ju Jitsu
Baltimore, MD
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kenpojujitsu3
http://www.myspace.com/kenpojames
410-948-1440
one made by Etch a Sketch?
Can't really make anything out, terrible video quality.
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May 21st, 2008, 4:33 pm #4

..Mantis Kenpo uploaded by Mr. Rahh.

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James Hawkins III, SI
Hawkins Kenpo Ju Jitsu
Baltimore, MD
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kenpojujitsu3
http://www.myspace.com/kenpojames
410-948-1440
Short 1 can always use some work.

CT

but that's just my opinion I could be wrong.
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May 21st, 2008, 5:03 pm #5

Short one being as basic to Shorin Ryu as you can get (hmm wonder why LOL)
After all many have mentioned the Okinawan arts that were copied in Hawaii and given a little change, but with the advent of video, web and all the other information that is around, if you can't see the similarity that is because you have not stepped outside of your own art and been to locations that do that sort of thing still.

All the Kata basicly came from the "Shotokan kata's", and it came from Okinawa Hmm Then things changed and now we have the latest (back to basic's) IMHO

Problem is Mantis is Chinese. Praying Mantis that is. Looks different.

Gary
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May 21st, 2008, 6:03 pm #6

Short 1 can always use some work.

CT

but that's just my opinion I could be wrong.
Dennis Miller
..they are spirited...they are focused....and they are relatively in sync with the given commands and in sync with each other.

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May 21st, 2008, 6:24 pm #7

I agree James, why I use the term "military" disipline could be used also.

The idea of movement and motion being together is a given in the Corps.

Drill teams (Rifle and Bayonet which I was involved in for two years being "seagoing") If you were not in step or not doing it in sync you were going to get someone injured and fast.

One of the best groups I have seen doing "Kata" is the "Shorin Ryu" folks, it is paramont in their teaching.

Where others it is secondary. I don't care for Kata much anymore but it is good for you, I do it but only a couple of them.

Drills are where it is at, as in "Drill Team" working side by side and not screwing up.

Look at the folks in China/Japan/Okinawa all going to the square and meeting in the morning and all doing it the same, pretty impressive

Gary



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May 21st, 2008, 6:40 pm #8

..Mantis Kenpo uploaded by Mr. Rahh.

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James Hawkins III, SI
Hawkins Kenpo Ju Jitsu
Baltimore, MD
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kenpojujitsu3
http://www.myspace.com/kenpojames
410-948-1440
I didn't upload that video to Youtube, you did that James. What was going through your mind man? How the hell could you be benefiting Kenpo by trying to discredit someone?

www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kkfmama for all things Kenpo in East Africa
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May 21st, 2008, 6:47 pm #9

one made by Etch a Sketch?
Can't really make anything out, terrible video quality.
The video was not meant to be on Youtube! It is 3 yrs old. The first two techs are not Mantis Kenpo, but are Slicing Sword & Strike of the Serpent from old BKF. They are not taught in Mantis Kenpo. Mantis techs usually are strike and grab in them.
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May 21st, 2008, 6:52 pm #10

I didn't upload that video to Youtube, you did that James. What was going through your mind man? How the hell could you be benefiting Kenpo by trying to discredit someone?

www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kkfmama for all things Kenpo in East Africa
For what it is worth Mr Rahh. I don't think it discredits you, I believe it shows that you have a good school. Is it AK? I am not sure, but it shows a group that is working together and doing a fine job.

Good showing for your teaching ability IMHO...

Edit:
You mention the BKF, I was at a location where a (white) guy was instructing, mentioned he was with the BKF and when it went away he joined up with a Shorin Ryu school, said there were a lot of similarity, so did the BKF adopt much of the Shorin Ryu teaching?

Regards,
Gary
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