Benjamin 397- To Scope, or Not to Scope?

Benjamin 397- To Scope, or Not to Scope?

Joined: February 7th, 2011, 2:57 am

March 28th, 2011, 2:42 am #1

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

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Zac
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Joined: April 19th, 2005, 6:52 pm

March 28th, 2011, 4:46 am #2

but for me, I scope my Benji's. I've used that Venturi mount before,
a bit high for my liking but it works. I had Tim @ Mac1 cut dovetails
into the reciever so I could use 2 piece mounts, plus the scope sits
a lot lower to the barrel. It also works good with the low comb on the stock.

S.W.A.G. it!
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Joined: August 3rd, 2008, 2:29 pm

March 28th, 2011, 10:48 am #3

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

Thanks

Zac
intermount as well .it works well but it is a bit high imo also.people will scout mount a pistol scope or a dot site which i have tried and that i did not like at all .i think i would go with dovetails if i could find someone local .i like this set up rather than sending my gun across the country only for dovetails. maybe if i decide a steroid work and such but until then this is it .

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Joined: February 9th, 2006, 10:35 pm

March 28th, 2011, 11:18 am #4

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

Thanks

Zac
I need to use a scope to plainly see the targets past 15 yards. I've decided I like the Jeff Cooper scout rifle style of scope mount, forward, up on the barrel. I use the standard Benjamin/Sheridan intermounts and Weaver .22 low rings with an NC-Star 2-7x32 PISTOL scope on my 392. Quick target acquisition on low power and both eyes open too. The advantage of the forward mounted scope is you can still pump the rifle in the normal, recommended manner of on, or just in front of, the receiver instead of the more awkward method of holding it by the pistol grip. Plus it's as easy to throw the bolt and load as a scopeless rifle.



I've been using a 2x20 pistol scope on my vintage Blue Streak. Gonna have to get at least a 4x eventually.


I plink, therefore I am.
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Joined: March 1st, 2002, 12:22 am

March 28th, 2011, 3:31 pm #5

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

Thanks

Zac
what's your intended purpose with this gun?

how good are your eyes? (I cant see a soda can at 50 yards without a scope....)

what kind of accuracy are you , the shooter capable of?

The mount youre looking at will really raise the scope up. you may (mostlikely) need to raise the cheek piece some to get a good cheek weld. The scout mount will help the height issue, and given the power limits of the 397, I think its the best of both worlds. and a lot easier to setup. NC Star makes a good 2-7 LER scope.... I have a Gamo 2x scope thats awesome for quick "point" shooting.....

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Gamo 2x in the scout postition

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2-6 rimfire scope on the mount.

the biggest thing I dont like about this mount is the setup makes it somewhat top heavy, and wants to twist in your hands.....

 


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Last edited by dan_house on March 28th, 2011, 3:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Joined: October 3rd, 2010, 3:22 pm

March 28th, 2011, 7:48 pm #6

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

Thanks

Zac
My crusty old eyes can't see a pickin' thing out to 30" without reading glasses. The peeps' gotta go.

Pondering putting dovetails and a Leapers Bug Buster compact scope on the ol' 392 steriod. I'm actually a died-in-the-wool Luepyguy but the leapers is so very short that it shouldn't impede pumping too much.

Tried using handgun scopes on my .357mag revolver. Just couldn't get used to the long eye relief so no handgun scope on the Benji for me.
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Joined: February 7th, 2011, 2:57 am

March 29th, 2011, 1:08 am #7

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

Thanks

Zac
Thanks guys! Both mounts sound good, but the intermount looks a little better, in my opinion. How is pumping with the intermount?

I'm young and my eyesight is terrible! If my eye sight was better, I would keep the peep, and be able to hit my target every time, but things get blury past 10 ft.
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Joined: February 20th, 2003, 9:10 pm

March 29th, 2011, 1:10 am #8

I've been thinking about scoping my 397, but I already have the William's peep sight. Personally I prefer iron sights for plinking ect, but I won't be able to get the guns complete accuracy. I just wanted a few opinions of irons vs scopes, and suggestions for a scope.

I would use the Air Venturi Intermount

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... ifles/2015

Thanks

Zac
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This is my 397, and it's dead-nuts accurate with the Williams peep. If you choose to scope these guns, either you have to go with the forward mounted pistol scope, which works well but looks wierd, or you have to compromise your pumping technique.

I spent an afternoon outside with this gun a couple weeks ago, shooting at spoon spinners at 20 yds. I went through about 200 pellets, and every miss (of which there were less than 10) was completely my fault.

Pumpers and peeps is a match made in airgun heaven.

I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Joined: February 7th, 2011, 2:57 am

March 29th, 2011, 1:18 am #9

Yea, I do like the peeps. It is alot more satisfying to hit your target with sights you actually have to line up, instead of a scope. Kinda like driving a manual trasmission sports car vs automatic.
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Joined: February 9th, 2006, 10:35 pm

March 29th, 2011, 11:29 am #10

Yes, but if you have a handicap that prevents you from shifting....
I like the open sights on these rifles too, but in all practicallity I can't use them.

I plink, therefore I am.
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