yesterday's change (chance) conversation

yesterday's change (chance) conversation

anudist
anudist

September 5th, 2004, 12:18 pm #1

Yesterday, I was out doing some shopping. yuck but it had to be done, I was looking for some emergency replacements to items that I need for work. yuck.

Well, here in the SF Bay Area its the typical September weather, HOT. Its been cold all summer long but now its HOT.

While out shopping I observed many women, old, young, skinny, fat, et cetera wearing various T Shirts, and various tops such as halters et cetera all with bras on underneath. I couldn't help but think to myself that it was soooooo "tacky" to have the bra straps showing as if they were advertising the fact that they were wearing a bra.

I stopped for a soda in a cafe, and sat near a table of four women of mixed age. The youngest being a teen and the oldest being her mother. (I didn't get actual ages). Well, these women were chatty and catty. That is they talked alot but they were also catty by talking about what other women were wearing.

Being the fool that I am, I couldn't help myself and join into their conversation. I basically told them that their own outfits with exposed bra straps were just as "offensive" as some of the other clothes worn by the passing women who they had judged.

Of course, I then had to explain about this forum (maybe one of more will check it out ???) and my own feelings about being bra free. I expressed my opinion that being brafree under these types of tops was FAR LESS "tacky" than exposing the brastraps. Being a male, I had to explain about the male perspective of a woman being brafree and we shared a few comments.

Well, to make it shorter, during the break and during the conversation, two of the "girls" went to the restroom, when they came back, one of the girls had removed her bra and commented that it felt much better so this brought out the other girls comments about it and the other one who had also gone to the bathroom then did the "under the clothes" bra removal and pulled her bra out from her "sleeve" (talk about tacky - doing that at a table in a public restaurant but at least she did it). This got the other two, the mother and teen talking about being brafree with the other two girls. I had to run and get going so I excused myself so therefore, I dont' know what the mother and daughter did talk about but the teen did seem interested in giving it a try but was reluctant with her mother being right there. I wonder if she did or will in the future and explore being brafree.

Well, that was my "brafree" experience of the day.

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peter
peter

September 5th, 2004, 1:03 pm #2

Thats great!!!!
I have felt the urge to get into conversations as such in the past...now I am encouraged to actually do it!!!
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michaela
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September 5th, 2004, 1:22 pm #3

Yesterday, I was out doing some shopping. yuck but it had to be done, I was looking for some emergency replacements to items that I need for work. yuck.

Well, here in the SF Bay Area its the typical September weather, HOT. Its been cold all summer long but now its HOT.

While out shopping I observed many women, old, young, skinny, fat, et cetera wearing various T Shirts, and various tops such as halters et cetera all with bras on underneath. I couldn't help but think to myself that it was soooooo "tacky" to have the bra straps showing as if they were advertising the fact that they were wearing a bra.

I stopped for a soda in a cafe, and sat near a table of four women of mixed age. The youngest being a teen and the oldest being her mother. (I didn't get actual ages). Well, these women were chatty and catty. That is they talked alot but they were also catty by talking about what other women were wearing.

Being the fool that I am, I couldn't help myself and join into their conversation. I basically told them that their own outfits with exposed bra straps were just as "offensive" as some of the other clothes worn by the passing women who they had judged.

Of course, I then had to explain about this forum (maybe one of more will check it out ???) and my own feelings about being bra free. I expressed my opinion that being brafree under these types of tops was FAR LESS "tacky" than exposing the brastraps. Being a male, I had to explain about the male perspective of a woman being brafree and we shared a few comments.

Well, to make it shorter, during the break and during the conversation, two of the "girls" went to the restroom, when they came back, one of the girls had removed her bra and commented that it felt much better so this brought out the other girls comments about it and the other one who had also gone to the bathroom then did the "under the clothes" bra removal and pulled her bra out from her "sleeve" (talk about tacky - doing that at a table in a public restaurant but at least she did it). This got the other two, the mother and teen talking about being brafree with the other two girls. I had to run and get going so I excused myself so therefore, I dont' know what the mother and daughter did talk about but the teen did seem interested in giving it a try but was reluctant with her mother being right there. I wonder if she did or will in the future and explore being brafree.

Well, that was my "brafree" experience of the day.
YOu are very brave! And you seized the day for certain. You had the perfect opportunity to point something out to these women and went for it. Good for you. I know your comments made an impact on them because they didn't respond with the classic defensive, "Mind you own business!" So it is possible they will visit us on the BFF, and perhaps think twice about bras in the furture. Yay!
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Cindiee
Cindiee

September 5th, 2004, 2:36 pm #4

Yesterday, I was out doing some shopping. yuck but it had to be done, I was looking for some emergency replacements to items that I need for work. yuck.

Well, here in the SF Bay Area its the typical September weather, HOT. Its been cold all summer long but now its HOT.

While out shopping I observed many women, old, young, skinny, fat, et cetera wearing various T Shirts, and various tops such as halters et cetera all with bras on underneath. I couldn't help but think to myself that it was soooooo "tacky" to have the bra straps showing as if they were advertising the fact that they were wearing a bra.

I stopped for a soda in a cafe, and sat near a table of four women of mixed age. The youngest being a teen and the oldest being her mother. (I didn't get actual ages). Well, these women were chatty and catty. That is they talked alot but they were also catty by talking about what other women were wearing.

Being the fool that I am, I couldn't help myself and join into their conversation. I basically told them that their own outfits with exposed bra straps were just as "offensive" as some of the other clothes worn by the passing women who they had judged.

Of course, I then had to explain about this forum (maybe one of more will check it out ???) and my own feelings about being bra free. I expressed my opinion that being brafree under these types of tops was FAR LESS "tacky" than exposing the brastraps. Being a male, I had to explain about the male perspective of a woman being brafree and we shared a few comments.

Well, to make it shorter, during the break and during the conversation, two of the "girls" went to the restroom, when they came back, one of the girls had removed her bra and commented that it felt much better so this brought out the other girls comments about it and the other one who had also gone to the bathroom then did the "under the clothes" bra removal and pulled her bra out from her "sleeve" (talk about tacky - doing that at a table in a public restaurant but at least she did it). This got the other two, the mother and teen talking about being brafree with the other two girls. I had to run and get going so I excused myself so therefore, I dont' know what the mother and daughter did talk about but the teen did seem interested in giving it a try but was reluctant with her mother being right there. I wonder if she did or will in the future and explore being brafree.

Well, that was my "brafree" experience of the day.
Congratulations, you are brave and daring.

I am glad that they accepted your comments positively and did not tell you to get lost and mind your own business.
Way to go!
Cindiee
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anudist
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September 5th, 2004, 3:16 pm #5

There was some hostility at the begining and it wasn't as if I was really welcomed into the conversation but I just tried to be non-confrontational and asked in plain ordinary non-threatning language in a very public space if I could express my own opinion.

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September 7th, 2004, 8:55 pm #6

You are a braver man than I sir!

<font color=”551188” face="Helvetica"> Michael </font>
[color=blue" face="Helvetica]”Just Do It!”[/color]
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Joined: March 20th, 2004, 6:34 pm

September 8th, 2004, 2:44 am #7

Yesterday, I was out doing some shopping. yuck but it had to be done, I was looking for some emergency replacements to items that I need for work. yuck.

Well, here in the SF Bay Area its the typical September weather, HOT. Its been cold all summer long but now its HOT.

While out shopping I observed many women, old, young, skinny, fat, et cetera wearing various T Shirts, and various tops such as halters et cetera all with bras on underneath. I couldn't help but think to myself that it was soooooo "tacky" to have the bra straps showing as if they were advertising the fact that they were wearing a bra.

I stopped for a soda in a cafe, and sat near a table of four women of mixed age. The youngest being a teen and the oldest being her mother. (I didn't get actual ages). Well, these women were chatty and catty. That is they talked alot but they were also catty by talking about what other women were wearing.

Being the fool that I am, I couldn't help myself and join into their conversation. I basically told them that their own outfits with exposed bra straps were just as "offensive" as some of the other clothes worn by the passing women who they had judged.

Of course, I then had to explain about this forum (maybe one of more will check it out ???) and my own feelings about being bra free. I expressed my opinion that being brafree under these types of tops was FAR LESS "tacky" than exposing the brastraps. Being a male, I had to explain about the male perspective of a woman being brafree and we shared a few comments.

Well, to make it shorter, during the break and during the conversation, two of the "girls" went to the restroom, when they came back, one of the girls had removed her bra and commented that it felt much better so this brought out the other girls comments about it and the other one who had also gone to the bathroom then did the "under the clothes" bra removal and pulled her bra out from her "sleeve" (talk about tacky - doing that at a table in a public restaurant but at least she did it). This got the other two, the mother and teen talking about being brafree with the other two girls. I had to run and get going so I excused myself so therefore, I dont' know what the mother and daughter did talk about but the teen did seem interested in giving it a try but was reluctant with her mother being right there. I wonder if she did or will in the future and explore being brafree.

Well, that was my "brafree" experience of the day.
Oh I'd say that was a bold move by you!

Actually, it's nice to see that some of us are spreading the gospel of brafreedom offline as well. I'm certainly doing my part by example thru living a brafree life, supporting others who are also go without, and by convincing all those in my social circle to at least give bralessness a try!
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