Fashion: Is near nude passe?

Fashion: Is near nude passe?

Joined: April 11th, 2004, 7:40 pm

July 5th, 2004, 1:00 pm #1

Some of you may have seen this news item today:
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The Low-Down on Nearly Naked Fashion

Belly buttons are so yesterday. Those once sizzling nearly nude fashions seen everywhere from designer runways to middle school classrooms are now fizzling. Nude is out. Demure is in.

Ladies, stick-straight hair is yesterday's fashion news. Find out the hot new trend that is sexy, soft, and very romantic.

Greg Scott, the CEO of Bebe, a chain with 195 stores that has staked its reputation on slinky tank tops and ultra short skirts, uttered these nearly heretical words to The New York Post that surely must signal a paradigm shift in the fashion world: "People are tired of seeing so much skin. That whole midriff-baring thing is completely over." One thing that always stays the same in fashion is change. So bid farewell to the skimpy, belly-baring outfits of Britney and Christina and say hello to skirts that hit the knee, shirts that are almost long enough to tuck in, and jeans that have a waistband that actually comes close to touching the waist.

Despite what the fashion industry thinks, the average clothing size in the United States is not a svelte 8 for women and a 40 regular for men. Find out the very surprising truth!

New York Post reporter Suzanne Kapner writes that this shift is part of the natural fashion cycle, but also dovetails with a more conservative mood that is sweeping the country. There's suddenly a new backlash against celebrities who bare too much. We're tired of navels. We're tired of trash. This more proper, ladylike look is credited in particular to two European clothing designers, Miuccia Prada and Karl Lagerfeld. Everyone else is quickly falling into line.

Be too cool for school! The top 10 most fashionable universities in the U.S.A. are...

Even the teen scene is getting in on this action, much to the relief of most mothers. Seventeen magazine has dubbed the new trend Miss Modesty. "The '50s sexy librarian look is in," a Seventeen fashion editor quipped to the Seattle Times reporter.
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Nat
Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

July 5th, 2004, 1:18 pm #2

Actually I'm not surprised at this. Throughout history when there have been troubled times- depressions, wars, or today's threat of terrorism, fashion has responded by turning conservative.
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Alteior
Alteior

July 5th, 2004, 2:05 pm #3

This is a well known phenomenon. But the pace of evolution is accelerating continuously. Some people calculated that wars pop up at intervals of something like 20 years. It won't take that much nowadays, regardless the reasons for it. Globalisation not at least: conflict hearths are interconnected, news items are known instantly... and reactions follow suit.

The up-and-down of skirts sway faster and faster. The culprit: is there a steady trend, a kind of a moving average?
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Joined: April 11th, 2004, 7:40 pm

July 5th, 2004, 2:14 pm #4

Hi Alteior, also, the role of the individual cannot be ignored - how strong are the pressures to wear what designers dictate? The fear of being 'different'.

Of course what is available in the stores does have some influence.

If people go out there and wear what they feel comfortable in, the fashion industry is powerless

Michael
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Nat
Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

July 5th, 2004, 2:20 pm #5

>"If people go out there and wear what they feel comfortable in, the fashion industry is powerless"

Yeah but 90% of people are sheep. They wear what their friends wear and their friends wear what they see in magazines and TV.
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Joined: April 11th, 2004, 7:40 pm

July 5th, 2004, 5:46 pm #6

(Apologies to present company)

None of which alters the fundamental principle: If people come here asking 'Do I have to wear a bra?' the answer remains 'no', regardless of what other fashion you may be wearing.
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Marv
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July 6th, 2004, 1:18 am #7

Some of you may have seen this news item today:
...........................................................


The Low-Down on Nearly Naked Fashion

Belly buttons are so yesterday. Those once sizzling nearly nude fashions seen everywhere from designer runways to middle school classrooms are now fizzling. Nude is out. Demure is in.

Ladies, stick-straight hair is yesterday's fashion news. Find out the hot new trend that is sexy, soft, and very romantic.

Greg Scott, the CEO of Bebe, a chain with 195 stores that has staked its reputation on slinky tank tops and ultra short skirts, uttered these nearly heretical words to The New York Post that surely must signal a paradigm shift in the fashion world: "People are tired of seeing so much skin. That whole midriff-baring thing is completely over." One thing that always stays the same in fashion is change. So bid farewell to the skimpy, belly-baring outfits of Britney and Christina and say hello to skirts that hit the knee, shirts that are almost long enough to tuck in, and jeans that have a waistband that actually comes close to touching the waist.

Despite what the fashion industry thinks, the average clothing size in the United States is not a svelte 8 for women and a 40 regular for men. Find out the very surprising truth!

New York Post reporter Suzanne Kapner writes that this shift is part of the natural fashion cycle, but also dovetails with a more conservative mood that is sweeping the country. There's suddenly a new backlash against celebrities who bare too much. We're tired of navels. We're tired of trash. This more proper, ladylike look is credited in particular to two European clothing designers, Miuccia Prada and Karl Lagerfeld. Everyone else is quickly falling into line.

Be too cool for school! The top 10 most fashionable universities in the U.S.A. are...

Even the teen scene is getting in on this action, much to the relief of most mothers. Seventeen magazine has dubbed the new trend Miss Modesty. "The '50s sexy librarian look is in," a Seventeen fashion editor quipped to the Seattle Times reporter.
The Fashion industry is just like the computer and car industry,and etc. They make their money by making you think that you are out of style or behind times. some poeple lisen some don't
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Nat
Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

July 6th, 2004, 1:30 am #8

Ofcourse, obsolescence is a major part of commerce, but with computers or cars, we expect the new models to be technologically better than the old ones, but in the case of clothes, they are no better- just different.
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John Bayko
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July 6th, 2004, 3:18 am #9

Some of you may have seen this news item today:
...........................................................


The Low-Down on Nearly Naked Fashion

Belly buttons are so yesterday. Those once sizzling nearly nude fashions seen everywhere from designer runways to middle school classrooms are now fizzling. Nude is out. Demure is in.

Ladies, stick-straight hair is yesterday's fashion news. Find out the hot new trend that is sexy, soft, and very romantic.

Greg Scott, the CEO of Bebe, a chain with 195 stores that has staked its reputation on slinky tank tops and ultra short skirts, uttered these nearly heretical words to The New York Post that surely must signal a paradigm shift in the fashion world: "People are tired of seeing so much skin. That whole midriff-baring thing is completely over." One thing that always stays the same in fashion is change. So bid farewell to the skimpy, belly-baring outfits of Britney and Christina and say hello to skirts that hit the knee, shirts that are almost long enough to tuck in, and jeans that have a waistband that actually comes close to touching the waist.

Despite what the fashion industry thinks, the average clothing size in the United States is not a svelte 8 for women and a 40 regular for men. Find out the very surprising truth!

New York Post reporter Suzanne Kapner writes that this shift is part of the natural fashion cycle, but also dovetails with a more conservative mood that is sweeping the country. There's suddenly a new backlash against celebrities who bare too much. We're tired of navels. We're tired of trash. This more proper, ladylike look is credited in particular to two European clothing designers, Miuccia Prada and Karl Lagerfeld. Everyone else is quickly falling into line.

Be too cool for school! The top 10 most fashionable universities in the U.S.A. are...

Even the teen scene is getting in on this action, much to the relief of most mothers. Seventeen magazine has dubbed the new trend Miss Modesty. "The '50s sexy librarian look is in," a Seventeen fashion editor quipped to the Seattle Times reporter.
I put no faith in fashion articles such as this. Generally, they're puff pieces designed to promote some sponsor's product, or sometimes "encourage" sponsors to pay for more articles by promoting the opposite until they do (computer industry analysis companies do the same thing).

The thing is, there are no "trends" in fashion these days (it's arguable that there ever were). You can always take a position, and find enough people to interview to justify it. Next month, the writer may be uncovering the exact opposite trend. It's nothing but magazine (or web page) filler, in the end.
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Joined: June 7th, 2004, 7:02 pm

July 6th, 2004, 7:34 am #10

Ofcourse, obsolescence is a major part of commerce, but with computers or cars, we expect the new models to be technologically better than the old ones, but in the case of clothes, they are no better- just different.
But they ARE better, because they're different. Or that's what they want you to believe.
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