It's a thread on a forum related to academic jobs. Worth a look.

<a href="http://chronicle.com/jobs/forums/read.p ... &t=5127</a" target="_new">http://chronicle.com/jobs/forums/read.p ... &t=5127</a>

Interesting thread Slomo, although it did go off course a bit.
Thirty years ago brafree co-eds were practically the norm.
But I though it was good that most responders seemed rather accepting of brafreedom.

It's a thread on a forum related to academic jobs. Worth a look.

<a href="http://chronicle.com/jobs/forums/read.p ... &t=5127</a" target="_new">http://chronicle.com/jobs/forums/read.p ... &t=5127</a>

See! We aren't the only ones who get side tracted and go down rabbit trails!
I like the first response there best. The one that says it is none of anyones business.
I also like the sub-subject about eye contact in other cultures. Some of it makes sense, and some of it sounds like guys just trying to justify why they look at chests while conversing. I don't look right into anyones eyes when I talk to or listen. I am too busy trying to see what they are saying by watching their lips. It is easier for me to hear if I can see what they are saying. Maybe that is why I don't like phones. Oh, and I have perfect hearing, incase you all wonder.

Yes the subject of eye contact is an interesting one, and not discussed very much. I think it is awkward for some people who find eye contact with strangers a bit intimidating really. I guess I pretty much avoid it, though I'm not sure exactly what I do as an alternative.

look and see what you do next time you talk with someone.

The trouble is if I think about it then I'll probably wont act normal.
Guess I need to find a old tape of me talking to somebody!

look and see what you do next time you talk with someone.

I realised on my own long ago that I don't make eye contact when I talk to people, I tend to look around the eyes but not straight at them. But it's mostly because I think eyes are disgusting...

look and see what you do next time you talk with someone.

I tend to look everyone straight in the eye....it is fun to watch people squirm. Kind of like stepping onto an elevator and remain face the rest on the car...they hate that.

I realised on my own long ago that I don't make eye contact when I talk to people, I tend to look around the eyes but not straight at them. But it's mostly because I think eyes are disgusting...

Why do you find eyes disgusting?

I tend to look everyone straight in the eye....it is fun to watch people squirm. Kind of like stepping onto an elevator and remain face the rest on the car...they hate that.

Maybe you are one of those guys (if you shake hands at all) who grips the other person's hand like a vise to watch them squirm.