Best place to buy RWS oil

Best place to buy RWS oil

Ron
Ron

March 26th, 2010, 11:15 am #1

Looks like I am going to need some spring oil and cylinder oil for my 34, just wandering where is the most economical place to buy and is there any good substitutes for RWS oils
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RedFeather
RedFeather

March 26th, 2010, 2:12 pm #2

There is a 50/50 split on the use of chamber oil in modern guns. Hector, here, supports it, so I would say chamber oil is OK. My guess is you can order it from UmarexUSA for the RWS brand and PyramydAir for whatever it is they sell.

Many air gunners no longer support the use of spring oil. It's mostly silicone oil, anyway, which has little in the way of metal-to-metal lubricating qualities. The use of any petroleum based oils in either the compression tube (housing the spring) or through the transfer port (where the air comes out) is not advised since the fumes will cause dieseling. This will damage the gun in the long run (and even the short). If you are going to tear the gun down, then you should buy a set of lubes from Air Rifle Headquarters.
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/ This consists of heavy tar for the spring (helps reduce vibrations, too), moly for the piston and seal, and clear lube for the pivot points. Even if you don't tear the gun down (and you should search under tunes to see how to do it safely), you can pull the gun out of the stock and administer a "slot tune". Search on the Yellow forum for how to.
http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/79537

(Yeah, guys, I know that the slot tune is considered unsophisticated but it is far better than spring oil.)

If you don't want to get the heavy tar, you might search on substitutes for it. Air Rifle Headquarters is run by Jim Maccari (AKA "The Spring Man") and he has spent years concocting his superior lubes. But others have found alternatives, especially where his are not generally available.

Hope this helps. I'm sure others will chime in with more info.
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Ron
Ron

March 26th, 2010, 2:35 pm #3

With all due respect I am still confused, I realize a petrol base oil is bad and it possible to damage the seals with some oils, I am not a perfectionist and was just interested is something that will lube and not damage my gun since it appears dry from the factory, and hate to order on line and pay as much for shipping and handling as the oil cost since oil is all I need and know it wont qualify for free shipping at most dealers
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JC
JC

March 26th, 2010, 2:57 pm #4

So from what I interpret, you would like info on a local dealer that might carry it. I suggest you post what local is for you and maybe someone could help. Cabela's seems to carry the RWS Shooters Kit, but it's like $36, so you may want to reconsider mail order/a different approach like Maccari Tar.....
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Joined: February 6th, 2010, 5:14 pm

March 26th, 2010, 5:56 pm #5

Looks like I am going to need some spring oil and cylinder oil for my 34, just wandering where is the most economical place to buy and is there any good substitutes for RWS oils
some considered spring oil of no use.No wonder people like Ron have so much to get confused about.I considrer chamber oil worthless,but not spring oil.What I do know for sure is the dry new springer will have heavy friction from piston rubbing as it`s cocked,and the stiffer the spring the higher the friction.I also know 6-10 drops of spring oil will prevent this.I`ve looked at too many guns,seen many ruined to rough cockers for the life of the guns,fron roughed up tubes&piston skirt tops.I`ve used JM`s moly,and his grease from Europe on rear of piston.I`ve found on RWS guns after a couple hundred shots,it all rubs off,and is pushed back as gun is cocked in a neat little grease ring,and gun will get dry again.Only solution,button piston,or a few drops SC oil now&again.Spring cylinder oil may not be the best lube in the world,but it`s the only oil that`s safe to use,and any lube is better than nothing.
Kind Regards,Dizz
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Ron
Ron

March 26th, 2010, 6:44 pm #6

First it was the barrel droop thing I listened to all the evidence and made my best judgment, now its the oil thing and I will listen to all the evidence and make my best judgment. The one thing I do know is like Dizz said, new 34,s are dry or a least mine is. In my opinion even the wrong oil is better than no oil.
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Joined: August 19th, 2009, 7:53 pm

March 26th, 2010, 8:04 pm #7

Dicks sporting goods in my area carries a Gamo spring gun maintenance kit.
or you could place an ad for a sample pack of JMs lubes. a spoon full of each lube is plenty for several guns. you could ad to your ad on Yellow trade for lubes etc.
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Ron
Ron

March 26th, 2010, 8:18 pm #8

great idea thanks
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Joined: May 17th, 2009, 1:07 pm

March 26th, 2010, 8:39 pm #9

Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..
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Joined: February 5th, 2008, 10:46 pm

March 26th, 2010, 10:25 pm #10

Purchased a pellet rifle a couple of years ago and it had a small pamphlet in a plastic bag from Dynamit Nobel-RWS Inc. in the box. Apparently pre UmarexUSA or UmarexUSA had a bunch of them left over and put them in boxes containing guns. Anyway in the short maintenance section it talks about chamber oil. They say a drop every 2500 shots will suffice. The next sentence is what really threw me. It says, "This lubricant is a special non-dieseling formula that evaporates within 30 seconds, and leaves a thin film of clear moly." I never had any idea of why their chamber oil was different from other oils. I guess we learn something every day. Another recommendation from them is, "The wearing surfaces at the barrel hinge, and the cocking arm should be lubricated with RWS Moly paste or Dri-Slide as well as the trigger mechanism." Never have heard of RWS Moly paste either. I guess there's lots I have yet to learn.

Larry
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