Was the death of Natalie Wood Foul Play? Yes!

Was the death of Natalie Wood Foul Play? Yes!

SausalitoSissy
SausalitoSissy

May 25th, 2011, 9:25 am #1

Now that I have your attention, pay no attention to the lunatic posting all over the Internet and in emails and trolling innocent people on Amazon under various screen names. The fact is Barnes and Noble has a review by someone who also left the exact same review on Amazon! On the Barnes and Noble review they left their actual name! He is dredging up things that happened years ago and all he ever did was post about Natalie Wood's death on Natpack just like he did on the RJ List. They are fan groups. They are set up to show pretty pictures and talk about their careers and things like that. All he did was talk about the night Natalie Wood died! He was asked to stop on both groups by the moderators and he wouldn't. He got thrown off of the Natalie group by the owner and he left the RJ group because he was found out not to be the person he said he was. Then last year he went on the new RJ group that was formed but the moderator realized very soon who he was and what he was up too and she asked him to leave voluntarily. He left a nasty post and cancelled his membership.
I could go on in detail which would also include other groups and blogs that he has trolled but why bother? Anyone with a brain can see right through his trolling.
So back to business. Foul play in the death of Natalie Wood or not? I say yes but no premeditation involved.
What say you?


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anonymous
anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 12:53 pm #2

Wagner could have saved her and didn't. Premeditation doesn't have to be days or hours before, sometimes in can be minutes or seconds before. Wagner clearly knew that Natalie's chances of survival were diminishing with every passing minute. Yes, it was premeditated.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 1:19 pm #3

In California, in order for a person to be found guilty of Ist Degree murder the prosecutor must prove that the person killed with malice aforethought and premeditation.
Premeditation means with deliberate planning. The amount of time needed for premeditation of a killing depends on the person and circumstances. It must be long enough, after forming the intent to kill, for the killer to have been fully conscious of the intent and to have considered the killing.
In California, murder one included a killing that is willful, deliberate and premeditated.

If this case had been investigated properly it may very well have fit into the category of murder one. It reeked of celebrity, Noguchi's hunger for attention, Rasure's starstruck deference to Wagner. Natalie was robbed of justice. Was it premeditated? According to California law, yes, it was.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 1:50 pm #4

What law? The OP sounded like they were giving an opinion not some lengthy California law thing. I think there was foul play involved because I think they argued and he pushed her and she landed in the water. Not like those stupid scenarios that were on here and on that Simone blog about grabbing her kicking and screaming and holding her under the water. He was drunk and panicked and went back inside. This was when he started concocting a story. I don't think the guy said oh great! I'll take her on the boat this weekend and push her overboard.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 2:25 pm #5

Premeditation infers planning well in advance. In some states, that's true. In other states, that's not the case. In some states, if a killer gives the crime only a few moments of advanced planning, it could be considered premeditated.
No one is saying that he gave this weeks of planning but if he did give it even a few moments of planning, it could be considered premeditation in some jurisdictions.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 2:30 pm #6

Whether it could be considered as premeditated murder or not, there was foul play. If everyone told the truth, Wagner would have been interrogated rather than escorted home courtesy of the LACSD and arrested.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 2:43 pm #7

What is your opinion? Got it? That is what the OP is asking. They aren't asking for the California Law Books out of Shapiro's Office. Sheesh!
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SausolitaSissy
SausolitaSissy

May 25th, 2011, 3:03 pm #8

What good does it do to write a book that law enforcement do not believe & will forever refuse to reopen the Wood case? Most of the population will always think as the police do, that it was accidental drowning. You give MR much too much credit for a book that did what exactly? She expressed her opinion but the people for it to matter to didn't believe it. Nothing got accomplished except 2 people made some money & a book got published. The reviews are slim pickings and the book went nowhere. Nothing has changed.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

May 25th, 2011, 3:10 pm #9

What is your opinion? Got it? That is what the OP is asking. They aren't asking for the California Law Books out of Shapiro's Office. Sheesh!
If Wagner sat drinking--after he threw Natalie in the water--knowing she could not swim, than it appears there was a definite plan there. It looks like he wanted her dead. He released the dinghy to make it appear she left the boat. That way he could make excuses for not looking for Natalie--Natalie was safe in the dinghy, right? If I was a prosecutor, I would want a charge of premeditation. It holds a stiffer sentence, too.
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S-1
S-1

May 25th, 2011, 3:20 pm #10

Who is Natfan4ever?
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