VERY OT (RANT)........... please feel free to delete if needed!

VERY OT (RANT)........... please feel free to delete if needed!

Joined: March 1st, 2005, 3:51 pm

March 3rd, 2011, 6:05 pm #1

I was reading this morning about a couple in Nevada who were both un-employed and found it quite disturbing! I had NO idea that the un-employment rate was SO high there so I pursued a Google search just to see in comparison what other States un-employment rates were and I almost chocked on my coffee!!
This is what I found:

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/lauhsthl.htm

"THEY" (whoever the hell "they" are) say that things are getting better and that we are recovering........ with SO many people losing their jobs and their homes who can afford such luxuries as gas, food, rent, clothing, schooling and etc etc?? So just how is it that we are "recovering? Recovering from what??
Gas here in the States is almost at $4.00 a gallon and climbing higher each day...... cost of food is climbing higher as is almost everything else! How can workers earning minimum wage afford to pay for gas to get to work when gas is 1/2 of what they earn per hour!
I am SO freeking sick and tired of this crap it almost makes me..... a grown man want to cry!!
To keep this also somewhat on a "watch" topic I also cant help but notice the asking prices of watches climbing higher then ever before! C/mon folks........ unless you have pockets so deep that you cant reach bottom who in hell is going to pay $1800.00 for a Mint 6105-8100 these days???
The list goes on and I too could also go on more but thats it......... RANT over (for now)
MODS......... if you fell this topic is out of order.... go ahead and delete it!
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March 3rd, 2011, 6:53 pm #2

Fuel is to the point of Ridiculous here and more than you pay also?

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March 3rd, 2011, 8:17 pm #3

I was reading this morning about a couple in Nevada who were both un-employed and found it quite disturbing! I had NO idea that the un-employment rate was SO high there so I pursued a Google search just to see in comparison what other States un-employment rates were and I almost chocked on my coffee!!
This is what I found:

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/lauhsthl.htm

"THEY" (whoever the hell "they" are) say that things are getting better and that we are recovering........ with SO many people losing their jobs and their homes who can afford such luxuries as gas, food, rent, clothing, schooling and etc etc?? So just how is it that we are "recovering? Recovering from what??
Gas here in the States is almost at $4.00 a gallon and climbing higher each day...... cost of food is climbing higher as is almost everything else! How can workers earning minimum wage afford to pay for gas to get to work when gas is 1/2 of what they earn per hour!
I am SO freeking sick and tired of this crap it almost makes me..... a grown man want to cry!!
To keep this also somewhat on a "watch" topic I also cant help but notice the asking prices of watches climbing higher then ever before! C/mon folks........ unless you have pockets so deep that you cant reach bottom who in hell is going to pay $1800.00 for a Mint 6105-8100 these days???
The list goes on and I too could also go on more but thats it......... RANT over (for now)
MODS......... if you fell this topic is out of order.... go ahead and delete it!
except in very rare cases. This post, IMHO does not warrant deletion, editing, or locking.
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Joined: June 29th, 2005, 8:21 pm

March 3rd, 2011, 10:12 pm #4

I was reading this morning about a couple in Nevada who were both un-employed and found it quite disturbing! I had NO idea that the un-employment rate was SO high there so I pursued a Google search just to see in comparison what other States un-employment rates were and I almost chocked on my coffee!!
This is what I found:

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/lauhsthl.htm

"THEY" (whoever the hell "they" are) say that things are getting better and that we are recovering........ with SO many people losing their jobs and their homes who can afford such luxuries as gas, food, rent, clothing, schooling and etc etc?? So just how is it that we are "recovering? Recovering from what??
Gas here in the States is almost at $4.00 a gallon and climbing higher each day...... cost of food is climbing higher as is almost everything else! How can workers earning minimum wage afford to pay for gas to get to work when gas is 1/2 of what they earn per hour!
I am SO freeking sick and tired of this crap it almost makes me..... a grown man want to cry!!
To keep this also somewhat on a "watch" topic I also cant help but notice the asking prices of watches climbing higher then ever before! C/mon folks........ unless you have pockets so deep that you cant reach bottom who in hell is going to pay $1800.00 for a Mint 6105-8100 these days???
The list goes on and I too could also go on more but thats it......... RANT over (for now)
MODS......... if you fell this topic is out of order.... go ahead and delete it!
.... we pay some of the LOWEST prices for gasoline here on the North American continent compared to our friends in Europe. Here's a link to some current fuel cost data :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_a ... nd_pricing

As for un-employment, yep it's bad and it is going to get worse as we are seeing the return to the historical economic NORM of Boss/Owner and Worker/Slave. Remember, the US was founded by an elite landed gentry class of folks who set up a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, NOT a DEMOCRACY. It was set up during the Age of Enlightenment as it was called then, with the idea that certain classes of folks knew what was needed for all the rest and THEY would control things. The concept of the MIDDLE CLASS as we have known it here in the US was and still is a Historical Economic ABNORMALITY which came about AFTER the world wide Deppression on the late 20's with the help of a mustacheoed paper hanger from Austria. WITHOUT WWII, we would not have come out of it by normal means till around 1959 or so. The whole nature of WORK is changing and we better get used to it. There is no going back, this is the 21st century like it or not.
Onward thru the Fog
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March 3rd, 2011, 11:44 pm #5

think the nature of work is changing to, or back to?
Do you really believe that people will give up the advancements
in the style of life that they have achieved over the last century?
I would like to see people demanding better things from our politicians.
We Canadians tend to be a little too much like sheep and take whatever
is rammed down our throats, but I'm used to seeing Americans raising
a rucus whenever they see injustice.
I'd like to see more people insisting on some manufacturing staying in
North America. I'd like to see Japan, and China opening their markets to our
automobiles, which they never really have. I'm not suggesting protectionism,
but a level playing field.
Also, I really think we should buy more products built in North America and vote with our wallets.
I personally will never again buy an automobile or any other big ticket item not built in North America unless it is something not made here.
If you don't allow our products to be sold in your
country, your companies should be sent packing, and not have our markets available to you.
We should insist our politicians who for the most part are bought and paid for by corporate interests, represent the people which is
what they should be doing in the first place, and ensure that there is a level
playing field in business, and if you're going to close up manufacturing in
North America to go to China or elswhere, then no more corporate tax breaks
for you. There are countless things that could be done to bring back economic
growth, but our politicians do absolutley nothing, allowing the emerging markets to
as the Donald would say..."eat out lunch".
From what I've heard from Donald Trump so far, I really hope he takes a run at the
White House, for all our sakes.


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March 4th, 2011, 12:25 am #6

.... to speak as far as their economies go. I don't think the type or level of product manufacturing as we've known it will return here to the US but we still will exercise some economic control of DISTRIBUTION and DEVELOPMENT wise for products and services in the future. The "new" economy we will have will be based on development of technology if we do not "cut our nose off to spite ourselves" concerning EDUCATION. I do think the economics of life will be more spread out among countries in the future and we will not have so few nations where ALL the wealth is based. And our dollar may no longer be the predominant currency in the world.The rest of the world is hungry and we opened Pandora's box and she's NOT going back in It's going to be a different world my grandchildren will live in than what I grew up with. Onward thru the Fog
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Joined: March 1st, 2005, 3:51 pm

March 4th, 2011, 12:39 am #7

I think we are forgetting about the taxes we pay!
EVERY damn thing you buy you pay a tax on it..... yeah yeah......I understand that we must all pay our "fair" share but damnit man........ the high taxes are killing us here!
Do you realize that you pay taxes on taxes? Take for an example...... lets say you are fortunate enough to get a refund on your taxes but lo and behold the very next year you must add your refund from last year into your income so you end up paying taxes on it again!!!
GAS......... do you realize that out of a gallon of gas that over 50% of that price per gallon is TAXES!!!!!!!
WTF Uncle Sam........ give us a break here!

Edited to add: My Wife paid over 17k in taxes last year.... that's more then a lot of people make income wise for an entire year!
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March 4th, 2011, 1:02 am #8

I was reading this morning about a couple in Nevada who were both un-employed and found it quite disturbing! I had NO idea that the un-employment rate was SO high there so I pursued a Google search just to see in comparison what other States un-employment rates were and I almost chocked on my coffee!!
This is what I found:

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/lauhsthl.htm

"THEY" (whoever the hell "they" are) say that things are getting better and that we are recovering........ with SO many people losing their jobs and their homes who can afford such luxuries as gas, food, rent, clothing, schooling and etc etc?? So just how is it that we are "recovering? Recovering from what??
Gas here in the States is almost at $4.00 a gallon and climbing higher each day...... cost of food is climbing higher as is almost everything else! How can workers earning minimum wage afford to pay for gas to get to work when gas is 1/2 of what they earn per hour!
I am SO freeking sick and tired of this crap it almost makes me..... a grown man want to cry!!
To keep this also somewhat on a "watch" topic I also cant help but notice the asking prices of watches climbing higher then ever before! C/mon folks........ unless you have pockets so deep that you cant reach bottom who in hell is going to pay $1800.00 for a Mint 6105-8100 these days???
The list goes on and I too could also go on more but thats it......... RANT over (for now)
MODS......... if you fell this topic is out of order.... go ahead and delete it!
Yeah, I'm in Canada and we have gas at $1,33 today

Do I like paying taxes Of course not.
I still feel very fortunate to live here, there is many many places on this planet where life is.. precarious to say the least. I don't say that things could not be better a lot a lot better but they could also be much worse.

Its still painful be be taxed like we are in Quebec

*Never a waste of time to look at a watch*
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March 4th, 2011, 1:41 am #9

I think we are forgetting about the taxes we pay!
EVERY damn thing you buy you pay a tax on it..... yeah yeah......I understand that we must all pay our "fair" share but damnit man........ the high taxes are killing us here!
Do you realize that you pay taxes on taxes? Take for an example...... lets say you are fortunate enough to get a refund on your taxes but lo and behold the very next year you must add your refund from last year into your income so you end up paying taxes on it again!!!
GAS......... do you realize that out of a gallon of gas that over 50% of that price per gallon is TAXES!!!!!!!
WTF Uncle Sam........ give us a break here!

Edited to add: My Wife paid over 17k in taxes last year.... that's more then a lot of people make income wise for an entire year!
.... but you need to take a look at what they pay in Europe tax wise, much, much MORE than we do. We DON'T know what taxes are compared to our European brothers.

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March 4th, 2011, 1:43 am #10

Yeah, I'm in Canada and we have gas at $1,33 today

Do I like paying taxes Of course not.
I still feel very fortunate to live here, there is many many places on this planet where life is.. precarious to say the least. I don't say that things could not be better a lot a lot better but they could also be much worse.

Its still painful be be taxed like we are in Quebec

*Never a waste of time to look at a watch*
... $3.49.99 US today. That's what I payed at the pump today whenI filled up
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