Winterfest We know the meaning of THE BEAST-SERPENT

Winterfest We know the meaning of THE BEAST-SERPENT

Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:32 pm

January 25th, 2013, 6:40 pm #1

SEE how Jeff Walling told the NACC how he TRANSISTIONED HIS church to instrumental "worship" after the NACC transistioned Jeff Walling

http://www.piney.com/NACC.Transitioning ... ental.html

Thou has Turned My Mourning into Dancing. Perhaps by God's design, they didn't read enough to understand that this is the GENDER mark well documented by Christ in Isaiah 3.

http://www.piney.com/Thou.hast.turned.m ... ncing.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God One

http://www.piney.com/worship1.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God Two

http://www.piney.com/worship11.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God Three

http://www.piney.com/worship12.html

Jeff Walling Instrumental Music in Worship. The problem with preachers getting their information from other preachers intent on converting them is that they never get around to reading the story line and defining words. Jesus said that parables had hidden the truth from the Scribes and Pharisees from the foundation of the world. He called them hypocrites (actors) by referring to the Ezekiel version byChrist who named slick speakers, singers and instrument players.

http://www.piney.com/Jeff.Walling.Instr ... Music.html

Jeff Walling Winterfest 2013 Denies that Scripture replaces BEING LED BY THE LORD. The leaders of this effort claim that they expose YOUR youth to lots of musical bands TO TEACH THEM TO LEAVE YOUR MOVEMENT.

http://www.piney.com/Winterfest.2013.Comments.html




The Mark of the Beast

http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.html


Jeff Walling may have been the first to INTRUDE into a lecture to say that INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC is not condemned for the church.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Chris ... usion.html

We understood the frog-boiling process which takes one of those VISIONS and about a decade to go INSTRUMENTAL which is radically condemned in the Bible and by all recorded history until the Disciples-Christian churches outed the PSALLO word to justify the deliberate sowing of discord to become INSTRUMENTAL or musical sectarians.

There is no reason that they should rest on the WORD but on their own hallucinations that a spirit person is leading them

Rick Atchley: The era of the progressive Church of Christ is over.

Back in the 80s you could go to any major city, especially in the South, and you could find a progressive Church of Christ and if they would preach grace, and if they would put words on a screen, and if they would let divorced people place membership, they would grow.

The generation of Boomers has enough denominational loyalty that theyre going to find the least legalistic

Well, we discipled the children of those progressive churches
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for a whole generation to grow past us Boomers.
.....They never heard the sermons we heard.
.....They never heard the rationale for a cappella music.

We sent them to youth rallies and Church of Christ events
.....with some of the finest Christian bands in the world.
.....We discipled our children to leave our Movement!


And the elders snooze on

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January 25th, 2013, 7:03 pm #2

Jeff Walling also confessing to intending to sacrifice some sacred cows. Unfortunately he simply cannot read the Text reserved for Disciples of Christ only who obey the command to "teach what He commanded to be taught and observed.

http://www.piney.com/Walling1995.html




Lucky for we mortals GOD CHANGES NOT. Christ the ROCK ordained that the Qahal, Synagogue, Ekklesia or Church of Christ in the wilderness be narrowly defined.

INCLUSIVE of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God.
EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrument rejoicing or rhetorical men.

Christ identifies the HYPOCRITES as speakers, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33.

Christ identified as BLASPHEMING the Holy Spirit OF Christ by saying that GOD said something He did not say.

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January 25th, 2013, 10:29 pm #3

Ken, why sit and wonder? Perhaps, the fresh mountain air would do you some good. Who knows, you may run into Dolly!


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[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Rocky,

If you're not in the mood or prepared for a serious doctrinal engagement, please initiate a thread, e.g., "Adults CAN Say the Darndest Things." We can use the thread whenever we need a break from the seriousness of life.[/color]
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January 26th, 2013, 12:04 pm #4

Donnie, I think we both know it's time for me to leave CM. You have been very liberal with me and my antics. I understand your desire to have serious discussion at this site. It is best that I move on.

This is my last post at CM. Farewell to all.
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January 26th, 2013, 7:39 pm #5

SEE how Jeff Walling told the NACC how he TRANSISTIONED HIS church to instrumental "worship" after the NACC transistioned Jeff Walling

http://www.piney.com/NACC.Transitioning ... ental.html

Thou has Turned My Mourning into Dancing. Perhaps by God's design, they didn't read enough to understand that this is the GENDER mark well documented by Christ in Isaiah 3.

http://www.piney.com/Thou.hast.turned.m ... ncing.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God One

http://www.piney.com/worship1.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God Two

http://www.piney.com/worship11.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God Three

http://www.piney.com/worship12.html

Jeff Walling Instrumental Music in Worship. The problem with preachers getting their information from other preachers intent on converting them is that they never get around to reading the story line and defining words. Jesus said that parables had hidden the truth from the Scribes and Pharisees from the foundation of the world. He called them hypocrites (actors) by referring to the Ezekiel version byChrist who named slick speakers, singers and instrument players.

http://www.piney.com/Jeff.Walling.Instr ... Music.html

Jeff Walling Winterfest 2013 Denies that Scripture replaces BEING LED BY THE LORD. The leaders of this effort claim that they expose YOUR youth to lots of musical bands TO TEACH THEM TO LEAVE YOUR MOVEMENT.

http://www.piney.com/Winterfest.2013.Comments.html




The Mark of the Beast

http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.html


Jeff Walling may have been the first to INTRUDE into a lecture to say that INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC is not condemned for the church.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Chris ... usion.html

We understood the frog-boiling process which takes one of those VISIONS and about a decade to go INSTRUMENTAL which is radically condemned in the Bible and by all recorded history until the Disciples-Christian churches outed the PSALLO word to justify the deliberate sowing of discord to become INSTRUMENTAL or musical sectarians.

There is no reason that they should rest on the WORD but on their own hallucinations that a spirit person is leading them

Rick Atchley: The era of the progressive Church of Christ is over.

Back in the 80s you could go to any major city, especially in the South, and you could find a progressive Church of Christ and if they would preach grace, and if they would put words on a screen, and if they would let divorced people place membership, they would grow.

The generation of Boomers has enough denominational loyalty that theyre going to find the least legalistic

Well, we discipled the children of those progressive churches
<font color="#FFFFFF">.....
for a whole generation to grow past us Boomers.
.....They never heard the sermons we heard.
.....They never heard the rationale for a cappella music.

We sent them to youth rallies and Church of Christ events
.....with some of the finest Christian bands in the world.
.....We discipled our children to leave our Movement!


And the elders snooze on

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Hey, I think Rocky has the key. William Crump claimed that if I was continuing to be here, even though I am only attempting to show others the evil ways here at concerned, then I am still a part of the evil.

I am right behind you Rocky. Good idea.

Donnie, I still will look for you the next time that I come to Madison. Buy you lunch. Count on it.

Hey William Crump (B), why did you say, a year or two ago, that you were leaving the site.....but returned?
Just wondering....


[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Posted by:
David Fields, Elder
Clemson, SC[/color]
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William
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January 26th, 2013, 7:51 pm #6

Donnie, I think we both know it's time for me to leave CM. You have been very liberal with me and my antics. I understand your desire to have serious discussion at this site. It is best that I move on.

This is my last post at CM. Farewell to all.
First, it would probably be a good idea for some to attend and observe. The mountain air probably would do a lot of good. The men from my congregation who chaperone our students are not the strongest in scripture. The children always come back enthused, and some occasionally wonder about some of the things they hear there, but the adults pay closer attention, and we are as likely to suffer from the indoctrination of the chaperones as from the children.

So if Donnie and others could attend for first hand knowledge not a bad idea. I confess that I do not know anything about what goes on there, although I am not all that taken with the program. I somehow think the idea of our young people getting together and enjoying the company of other young Christians ought to be a good idea.

As for Dolly ...



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January 27th, 2013, 3:43 am #7

Hey, I think Rocky has the key. William Crump claimed that if I was continuing to be here, even though I am only attempting to show others the evil ways here at concerned, then I am still a part of the evil.

I am right behind you Rocky. Good idea.

Donnie, I still will look for you the next time that I come to Madison. Buy you lunch. Count on it.

Hey William Crump (B), why did you say, a year or two ago, that you were leaving the site.....but returned?
Just wondering....


[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Posted by:
David Fields, Elder
Clemson, SC[/color]
I have reviewed a sermon by a featured speaker at Winterfest 2013. Most of the insiders are part of a groups being paid to take the youth to such assemblies and use musical bands (with or without instruments) to TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO LEAVE YOUR MOVEMENT.

http://www.piney.com/David.Skidmore.Ephesians.2.html

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January 27th, 2013, 4:01 pm #8

First, it would probably be a good idea for some to attend and observe. The mountain air probably would do a lot of good. The men from my congregation who chaperone our students are not the strongest in scripture. The children always come back enthused, and some occasionally wonder about some of the things they hear there, but the adults pay closer attention, and we are as likely to suffer from the indoctrination of the chaperones as from the children.

So if Donnie and others could attend for first hand knowledge not a bad idea. I confess that I do not know anything about what goes on there, although I am not all that taken with the program. I somehow think the idea of our young people getting together and enjoying the company of other young Christians ought to be a good idea.

As for Dolly ...


[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]I, too, think "the idea of our young people getting together..." is a good idea. But this can be done locally. The gathering at Winterfest or some other designated location has become an annual nationwide convention [or "lectureship"] designed to indoctrinate the youth the "change agents'" way.

Jeff Walling is one of the more prominent change agents operating in the brotherhood. Strangely, he preaches for a conservative [or it used to be] congregation. As to how much longer that congregation remains non-instrumental-music remains to be seen. [Its website used to clearly emphasize opposition to IM -- but I believe that statement has been removed.]

Walling is not all about IM.

Comments like these ... take NOTE:[/color]
  • Walling is not a good representative for the church of Christ.

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  • It is the undercurrent of religious liberalism from speakers like Jeff Walling that threatens to turn our young people away from the church of Christ. This is my concern as a parent of children in Christian College.

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  • Jeff Walling is the Champion Axe Man against churches of Christ.

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  • When Jeff Walling spoke at my home congregation in the late 80s, he was talking about Jesus turning water into wine and pointed out that Jesus liked to party. That was the end of Jeffs speaking engagements at that church. [August 19, 2005]

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  • Who would have guessed fifteen years ago that wed be in a place where Ann Coulter can speak at Harding but Jeff Walling cant? [Aug. 19, 2005, Preacher Mike (Cope)--that's understandable coming from you]</li>
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January 28th, 2013, 12:11 am #9

I had an interesting conversation with a daughter who has two children subjects of Winderfest. She noted with most people that the young people are not hanging around the church of Christ very long. I quoted a few of the key features at Winterfest and noted that they even confess that they are using music to teach YOUR children to leave OUR MOVEMENT. Of course, they are not honorable enough to "leave our movement". Because they probably could never get denominational jobs when it is known that they live to bite the hand that feeds them. Their other (charitable) motive is that they are so treacherous that they will do anything to CHANGE the hand that feeds them.

The less honorable reason which I tend to believe is that they have SOLD themselves and are purpose driven to betray the Word of Christ. That is not to say that many "churches" have much use for the Word "as it has been taught." Judas prophesied to try to TRIUMPH OVER Jesus means the "vocal or instrumental rejoicing" when God's people are called OUT of their rest ONLY to hear the Word PREACHED when it is READ for out comfort and doctrine. The Judas Bag was "a box for carrying the mouthpieces of Wind instruments" and always attached to a flute case of gender-compromised musicians.

It is a provable, dogmatic fact that what they teach in FAVOR of instrumental music (God and we call it noise) that they are either Biblically Illiterate or terminally evil.

They prove that they have been abandoned by God when they even ignore or misuse a verse or two from the Bible (to keep being fed) and then SERMONIZE out of their own head. This violates several DIRECT COMMANDS. Men who would preach what they think is powerfully entertaining sermons, badmouth the church they feed off need not wonder why "our church is shrinking."

Youth leaders are a defacto insult against the youth who are not JUNIOR MEMBER who need a play mate. People leave when the church has NOTHING in either music or sermons they can get cheaper from the internet. Paul said "your assemblies do more harm than good" so why support those who are treasonous but ignorant of the Word.
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January 28th, 2013, 7:39 pm #10

SEE how Jeff Walling told the NACC how he TRANSISTIONED HIS church to instrumental "worship" after the NACC transistioned Jeff Walling

http://www.piney.com/NACC.Transitioning ... ental.html

Thou has Turned My Mourning into Dancing. Perhaps by God's design, they didn't read enough to understand that this is the GENDER mark well documented by Christ in Isaiah 3.

http://www.piney.com/Thou.hast.turned.m ... ncing.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God One

http://www.piney.com/worship1.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God Two

http://www.piney.com/worship11.html

Jeff Walling Daring to Dance with God Three

http://www.piney.com/worship12.html

Jeff Walling Instrumental Music in Worship. The problem with preachers getting their information from other preachers intent on converting them is that they never get around to reading the story line and defining words. Jesus said that parables had hidden the truth from the Scribes and Pharisees from the foundation of the world. He called them hypocrites (actors) by referring to the Ezekiel version byChrist who named slick speakers, singers and instrument players.

http://www.piney.com/Jeff.Walling.Instr ... Music.html

Jeff Walling Winterfest 2013 Denies that Scripture replaces BEING LED BY THE LORD. The leaders of this effort claim that they expose YOUR youth to lots of musical bands TO TEACH THEM TO LEAVE YOUR MOVEMENT.

http://www.piney.com/Winterfest.2013.Comments.html




The Mark of the Beast

http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.html


Jeff Walling may have been the first to INTRUDE into a lecture to say that INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC is not condemned for the church.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Chris ... usion.html

We understood the frog-boiling process which takes one of those VISIONS and about a decade to go INSTRUMENTAL which is radically condemned in the Bible and by all recorded history until the Disciples-Christian churches outed the PSALLO word to justify the deliberate sowing of discord to become INSTRUMENTAL or musical sectarians.

There is no reason that they should rest on the WORD but on their own hallucinations that a spirit person is leading them

Rick Atchley: The era of the progressive Church of Christ is over.

Back in the 80s you could go to any major city, especially in the South, and you could find a progressive Church of Christ and if they would preach grace, and if they would put words on a screen, and if they would let divorced people place membership, they would grow.

The generation of Boomers has enough denominational loyalty that theyre going to find the least legalistic

Well, we discipled the children of those progressive churches
<font color="#FFFFFF">.....
for a whole generation to grow past us Boomers.
.....They never heard the sermons we heard.
.....They never heard the rationale for a cappella music.

We sent them to youth rallies and Church of Christ events
.....with some of the finest Christian bands in the world.
.....We discipled our children to leave our Movement!


And the elders snooze on

</font>
Paul silenced both women and men who WAVED unholy arms and brought on wrath or an ORGY. We have noted that the Law of Silence in Isaiah 57 defines the SILENCE of any performing characters and Isaiah 58 outlawed SPEAKING YOUR OWN WORDS.

Isaiah 3 had outlawed both any woman who would ASSUMINATE any dominate role as well as the EFFEMINATE: both of these are the source of any theatrical or musicl performance which DISABLES the mind or Spirit and therefore MARKS the enemies of Christ so you can FLEE BABYLON.



<font face="size=5">Thus saith the LAW ordained by the Spirit of Christ in the prophets who outlawed seeking your own pleasure (rhetoric or music) or even SPEAKING YOUR OWN WORDS. When you go to the School (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles (only) VALIDATED by Jesus and "left as our memory."

Of COURSE you cannot conduct religious INSTITUTION without the Civil-Military-Clergy complex Jesus died to remove.
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