Maury Hills: Kairos-Ethos-Renovare Apostasy: Kairos is a demon or devil

Ken Sublett
Ken Sublett

October 26th, 2009, 6:34 pm #21

The Regulative Principle. UPDATED.

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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
At the ACU Summit 2009 this year the MOUNTAIN was their PATTERNISM for the Church: they missed the most important chapters. We can be certain that no one at the PEAK understood what happened at Mount Sinai: it was the musical idolatry of the Egyptian (etal) trinity. For this affront, rather than being a PATTERNISM for us, God removed His grace and abandoned them to worship the starry host: anyone having read Acts 7 would ask some questions before daring to preach.

They lectured on Exodus 31 and just HOPPED over Exodus 32. Here are some very rough notes

http://www.piney.com/Exodus.32.html

Exod 31:12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
Exod 31:13 Speak thou also unto the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL,
......saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep:
......for it is a sign between me and you
......throughout your generations; [your revolution of time]
......that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.


That doesn't sound like A DAY OF WORSHIP to me! The word KEEP is:

8104. shamar, shaw-mar´; a primitive root; properly, to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e. guard; .

Exod 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you:
......every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death:
......for whosoever doeth any work therein,
......that soul shall be cut off from among his people.


The ANOTHER DAY of rest is the Greek PAUO which means to STOP the speaking, singing, playing and having a party.

HERE IS THE WAY YOU CAN DEFILE THE SABBATH h2490 Thayer


THIS DEFINES THE MYSTERIES WHICH WERE USUALLY CONNECTED TO THE SEVENTH DAY

The golden calf represented Apis a real bull calf in Egypt. This represented the always-pagan ftrinitiy of Osiris, Isis and Horus.

The Egyptian Opis (Apis) and others which Israel worshipped at Mount Sinal were worshipped throughout the area. "In preference to all other hymns these choirs generally sang the so-called epiphany hymns,which were intended to invite the gods to appear. Plutarch wrote:

Why do the women of Elis call upon God in song to approach them with the bull's foot? Their song is the following:

......Come, Dionysus, Hero,
......into the holy temple of Elis,
......together with the Graces
......come violently into the temple with the bull's foot!
......Then they sang twice at the end: "Sacred Bull!"
......(Johannes Quasten, Music & Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, p. 76)


"For NONLITERATE peoples, music often serves purposes other than entertainment or aesthetic enjoyment. Certain wind instrumentare closely associated with the supernatural, and their sounds connote powerful magic. Australian Aborigines, for instance, identify the sound of a bull-roarer with thevoices of supernatural beings; for the Plains Indians, the same sound signifies an awesome natural phenomenon, such as thunder. Wind instruments are often among a group's most important ritual objects, and in some cultures they are specially venerated. The Kamairua Indians of the Amazon rain forest keep their giant flutes (three to four feet long), wherein spirits are believed to dwell, in a special shrine where they are worshiped. The flutes and drums of New Guinea are similarly housed and worshiped.

"Wind instruments in primitive cultures also serve nonreligious functions. In New Guinea, bamboo trumpets were once played

to frighten an enemyduring battle and
to alert a village that the victorious warriors were coming home with the corpses of the foes.

"Conch-shell trumpets are used for signaling in the Pacific coastal regions of Columbia and in the Ecuadoran highlands.

Trumpets also may be associated with the office of king or chief, as in West Africa,
where their use is strictly controlled by tribal law. "wind instrument" Encyclopædia Britannica Online.


When Moses came DOWN from the Mountain ACU just SKIPPED the punch line. Moses recognized the sounds of VICTORY and the sounds of DEFEAT, but, he says IT IS SINGING THAT I HEAR. That meaning IDOLATRY .

Sorry, but there is no evidence that does not mark religious music as IDOLATRY and at Mount Sinai (HOPPED OVER BY ACU) sexual perversion. Look at Romans 1 to define Sinai.
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October 28th, 2009, 12:22 am #22

The Regulative Principle. UPDATED.

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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
All pagans believed that the "gods" dwelled inside of the musical instruments: in an account similar to the Book of Enoch it is said that Satan taught the youth how to make and play instruments: when they played the instruments Satan came into them. This is something like the Psallo/Sop word which Jesus used to cause Satan to enter into Judas whose Judas bag was for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments.

http://www.piney.com/MuLamech.html

David tried to AWAKEN his lyre so that he could AWAKEN the Dawn

Euripides attributes instruments to Rhea, the mother of the gods or ZOE. Remembering that it was because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai that God turned them over to worship the starry host and sentenced them to return beyond Babylon; and that the old wineskin god was Bacchus or Dionysus. This is why Jesus said that the MEN were like CHILDREN piping trying to force others to sing or lament and dance the sexual initiation.

http://www.piney.com/DocEuripBacc.html

Anon shall the whole land be dancing, when Bromius leads his revellers to the hills, to the hills away! where wait him groups of maidens from loom and shuttle roused in frantic haste by Dionysus. O hidden cave of the Curetes!

[120] O hallowed haunts in Crete, that saw Zeus born, where Corybantes with crested helms devised for me in their grotto the rounded timbrel of ox-hide (lifeless instrument), mingling Bacchic minstrelsy with the shrill sweet accents of the Phrygian flute, a gift bestowed by them on mother Rhea, to add its crash of music to the Bacchantes' shouts of joy;


ACU is looking to the MOUNTAINS and missing the musical idolatry and Zoe wants to LOOK TO THE HILLS. Unfortunately, this was a question: Shall WE look to the mountain or hills gods for our salvation? No. Here is a quick Exodus 32 which ACU skipped over while coming down from the hills Rough notes for now but to join the majority of about half a dozen you might read it.

http://www.piney.com/Exodus.32.html

The Mother of Harlots in Revelation 17 uses lusted after "fruits" as speakers, singers and instrument players. John called them sorcerers.
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October 28th, 2009, 5:45 pm #23

The Regulative Principle. UPDATED.

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http://www.piney.com/Regulative.Princip ... hrist.html

I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
Question: who are the DEMONS?

Jesus talked about hell being prepared for Satan and his angels didn't he? Of course, angels means messengers. But the fallen angel theory seems to make more sense all around.

In 1 Corinthians 10 and Romans 10 Paul quoted from the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai: this was to prove to the Jews that they HAD fallen from grace and therefore were NOT predestinated to be saved. In 1 Corinthians 10 Paul identified this with DEMON worship: demon worship was often conducted under the bull (golden calf) representing the Egyptian and all pagan triads. This worship was always MARKED by vocal and instrumental rejoicing which is what Christ outlawed for The Church of Christ in the Wilderness. That was because the Church was to rest, read and rehears the Word of God: that never changed for several centuries after Christ: "singing" was what Moses heard as idolatry at Mount Sinai and no one imposed singing as an ACT (legalism) until the year 373.

Tertullian also wrote Chapter XXIII.

http://www.piney.com/HsTertTrinity.html

Moreover, if SORCERS call forth ghosts, and even make what seem the souls of the dead to appear;

if they put boys to death, in order to get a response from the oracle; if, with their juggling illusions, they make a pretence of doing various miracles;

if they put dreams into people's minds by the power of the angels and DEMONS whose aid they have invited, by whose influence, too, goats [cappella] and tables are made to divine,-

how much more likely is this power of evil to be zealous in doing with all its might, of its own inclination, and for its own objects, what it does to serve the ends of others! Or if both angels and demons do just what your gods do, where in that case is the pre-eminence of deity, which we must surely think to be above all in might?


The rise of the Musical worship team (thanks to Knowles etal) specificially claims that they can "lead you into the presence of God." [The discussion about whether dead men of the Restoration Movement are the DEMONS: No, I would say that the live MUSICATORS fulfil all of the marks of promoting demon worship ALWAYS identified by the sights and sounds of Lucifer's or Zoes]

Or that when we praise God lands on us like a platform: if you watch what we do and repeat it then you will also worship. The New Wineskins (aka Vinyard) claims that the praise singing can induce a sexual-like climactic experience with God: just before final act of worship calling "giving of substance." All musical terms in the Greek literature parse directly to enchantment or sorcery: Paul warned about the "voice of angels" when he equated a lact of love to Lifeless Instruments also called Carnal Weapons. Jesus also warned about them in Isaiah and Ezekiel by naming speakers, singers and instrument players.

Tertullian also confirms out thesis in Isaiah 30 that Christ is defining the ONLY purpose for which hell was prepared. The way we can SEE and HEAR demon worship. Judah put their TRUST in Egypt and were overcome by the Assyrians all identified as using MUSIC to "make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

Isaiah 30 uses the musical worship of the BULL DEMON Molech in Jerusalem to show FOR WHOM hell has been prepared:

http://www.piney.com/Isa30LXX.html

Must ye always rejoice, and go into my holy places continually, as they that keep a feast? and must ye go with a PIPE as those that rejoice into the mountain of the Lord, to the God of Israel Isaiah 30:29 LXX

Isa 30:32 And is shall happen to him from every side,
......that they from whome their hope of assistance was,
......in which he trusted, themselves shall war against him in turn with DRUMS and with HARP.

For thou shalt be required before thy time: has it been prepared for thee also to reign? nay, God has prepared for thee a deep trench, wood piled fire and much wood: the wrath of the Lord shall be as a trench kindled with sulphur. Isaiah 30:33 LXX


The SORCERY / DEMON worship and MUSIC is absolute well documented on clay tablets and the last time in Revelation 18.

Lucifer is called the Singing and Harp playing prostitute who wholly seduced Eve in the Garden: he/she is personified by the king/queen of both Tyre and Babylon:

Isa. 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave,
......and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee,
......and the MAGGOTS cover thee.
Is. 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer [ZOE], son of the morning!
......how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Is. 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
......I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Is. 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Is. 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
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November 1st, 2009, 3:29 am #24

The Regulative Principle. UPDATED.

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http://www.piney.com/Regulative.Princip ... hrist.html

I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
Read your Old Testament. God chose the tribe of Levi. He chose Aaron's sons and even the line of Zadok. We should get our understanding of doctrine from the Bible, not Jospehus, not liberal commentaries, and not descriptions of paganism in Greece and the Ancient Near East.

This gets off track a bit but it is important to understand why there is so many passages in the prophets warning about a Spirit OF Fire and a Spirit OF judgment. Even with Cornelius 'embraced it was the BREATH of God which produced WORDS in the Judean language which the Jews clearly understood. This was a sign of Judgment upon the doubting Jews still ready to DENY baptism to the Gentiles unless they were circumscized and kept the Law of Moses which was added because of transgression and not a sign of predestination.

The REASON for this overwhelming with WIND or Breath of God and FIRE was to DISQUALIFY the Law of Moses and the NOT-commanded sacrificial system which burned lambs and children with fire. Nothing could have been a more powerful death blow to the exclusive Jews (Edomites probably) than to have JUDEANS speaking in NON-Hebrew about THEIR Messiah whom they could not deny but still murdered. Peter reached back a decade to prove to the doubting Jews that this was proof that the Spirit HAD BEEN poured out to the Gentiles long ago. Instead of an ANGRY WIND the baptized believer would have A holy spirit in which God thorugh His Word could dwell and be sought. This gave them REST from the curse of the Law where the service of the Levites was HARD BONDAGE using aword having the same meaning as abaddon or apollyon in Revelation.

.......Psa. 33:6 By the [1] word of the [2] LORD were the heavens made;
..............and all the host of them by the [3] breath of his mouth.
.......Psa. 33:7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap:
..............He layeth up the depth in storehouses.
.......Psa. 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD:
..............let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
.......Psa. 33:9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.

God abandoned Israel to worship the STARRY HOST because of sin at Mount Sinai. They were continuing their old Egyptian cult and the name LEVITE includes the tribe of Levi but it also points to the worship of Dionysus which coverered the whole area from Babylon, Canaan, Egypt and Greece. Acts 7 makes it clear with Amos that they continued the worship of Molech and other 'gods' representing the Sun, Moon and wandering stars or known planets. The Nacash in Genesis points directly to the NAGA or serpent and sun worshipers of Persia and India.

The Jewish Encyclopedia confirms what the Bible makes clear, that the Temple system was a NATIONAL or STATE sacrificial system. Christ in the prophets deny that this is what God commanded them when He saved them by pure grace. That was Sabazianism derived from Sabius or Dionysus / Bacchus: this was still part of the mindset of the Jewish clergy.

I would rather seek the advice of the almost-universal scholarly opinion than I would one trained as a speaker..

The Ghebers of Hebron 2 Hoaea, xii. 4 derives the name Inrael from Sarah to contend, to fight, and El = God of Fire. Gen. xxxii. '28. Asarians, Asriel, Israel, a name of the War god {Exodus, xiii. 21, 22, xiv. 25), Saturn and the Sun. The Fire-god Azar was the God of war, and M'irs was the Sun. Macrob. I. xvii. OS

For the Sabbath worshipers in the church: that was the day for the worship of ALL of the SUN gods.

The Jews blew the trumpet on the newmoon, poured out libations and offered burnt sacrifices. And for this duty the Lobii, Luim or Levites were assigned to do just what the Brahmans did in India. They ministered to la'hoh, Lord of Life, according to Exodus, iii. 14 ; xxxviii. 21; xl. 15; Jeremiah, xxxiii. 18. Hence the Jews were the Brahmaus of Palestine, as Josephus said, worshipping Brahma, whom, for their own political purposes, they chose to regard as Ab (Father) Ram (Most High) which title is not unsuitable to the Most High of the Hindu Gods. King states that the words brahrna and abrahm have the same numerical value.6

But these fire-worshippers carried with them the arks of Moloch and Khiun (Life-god), their Adon, and they had, like the other peoples of the Delta, their Mysteries, which the priests instituted. They took with them from Phoenicia, probably, a certain knowledge of fixed vocal signs; and it would not be safe to deny to Syria the possession of some sort of (Syrian) hieroglyphs


When the Gurus claim that Amos was just condemning "a bad mental attitude" then you grasp why Jesus fired the "doctors of the Law for taking away the key to knowledge."

Whatever the monarchs called "God" it was NOT the Jehovah of Jacob: He always hypenates His name to keep down the confusion. As Jesus He is Jehovah-Saves who came to save us FROM that "crooked race" probably Edomites and not Children of Israel..

THAT CANNOT DISTURB YOU IF YOU READ THE PROPHETS OR JUST ACTS 7: STEPHEN SAID THAT GOD TURNED THEM OVER TO WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST. Doesn't the Words of Christ in the Prophets count for anything as His PROVIDING A WAY OF ESCAPE?

.......> Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel;
..............Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh. Jeremiah 7:21
.......For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
..............in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
..............concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22
.......> But this thing commanded I them, saying,
..............Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
..............and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you,
..............that it may be well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23
.......> But they HEARKENED NOT, nor inclined their ear,
..............but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart,
..............and went backward, and not forward. Jeremiah 7:24

That was ABSOLUTE when the elders FIRED God and demanded a human king. Just read the text of the first major PROPHET of doom:

http://www.piney.com/First-Samuel-Eight.html

In the name of common sense, WHY would anyone listen to anyone demanding that the SPIRIT told him to DO that to which God ABANDONED first Israel and then Judah?


Jacob says I have waited for thy salvation, O Lord!" Of Simeon and Levi the patriarch remarks that they

.......Gen. 49:5 Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments [Sword or Musical]
..............of cruelty are in their habitations.
.......Gen. 49:6 O my soul, come not thou into their secret;
..............unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united:
.............. for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wal
l.

Habitations means "stabbing" from "a cooking range" or boiler, a pot or furnace. God knew that they had a lust for blood and flesh and that was the only rationale for the national or pagan sacrificial systems.

The Levites would be warriors and the latin is bellor To understand such words, the Greek and Latin literature must be read.

In Vergil Aeneid 11 the word Bello is used of the triumph over using music.

.......With such, return'd triumphant from the war,
.......Her maids with cries attend the lofty car;
.......They clash with manly force their moony shields;
.......With female shouts resound the Phrygian fields.


Gen. 49:7 Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel:
.......I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.


"Dan," he says, "shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse-heels, so that his rider shall fall backwards (i.e., he will teach candidates black magic) .

Gen 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way,
.......an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels,
.......so that his rider shall fall backward.


David was KING and the Levites were under the king and commanders of the army: they were not part of the priestly class and even to COME NEAR any holy thing would get them killed.

The Bible is a history of the HEBREW PEOPLE: as such, it includes the Civil-Military-Priestly class which in all nations served the STATE and gave glory to it: they did not serve the people but as God promised when He gave them a "king in His anger" that the Monarchy--as national idolatry--would destroy them.

Let me say it again: the Spiritual THREAD is defined by Christ in spirit through the WRITING PROPHETS. Only these earlier prophets and the later apostles LAID (past tense) the foundation of the Church. You can lay a foundation only once and this one is built on the ROCK (Christ in the wilderness church).

Once a will is probated by its testators it forever stands for the mind of the one making the Will.

It confirms the Bible that all of the historic scholars DENY that God needed a human king, priests and a sacrificial system QUARANTINED within the walls of the CITY: We as Christians go OUTSIDE of the city to find Christ and suffer REPROACHES with Him.
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November 3rd, 2009, 4:23 am #25

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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
This year ACU used the MOUNTAIN top them: when they came down they flat SKIPPED over Exodus 32. Now, why would a bunch of scholars bent on imposing the MUSICAL IDOLATRY which cause God to turn them over to worship the starry host just like in Babylon and back in Egypt? Well, you don't need school to be a scholar thse days.

If you have read Acts 7 you will understand Stephen saying that God turned them over to worship the STARRY HOST.

For we readers, #150 is NOT a Psalm but a HALAL which means to make yourself vile by making threats with all of the instruments derived from prostitutes: David made war, not worship.

If God ABANDONED them and sentenced them to return BEYOND BABYLON

......then how is it you are going to snatch bits and pieces of an ABANDONED group
......as a pattern for the church which is a school (only) of the Bible (only).
......It has no staff or roles not directed to teaching THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT.

If you have read 2 Samuel you will discover that TIME WAS UP when the elders fired God and demanded a king like the nations. God knew that they wanted to WORSHIP like the nations. God claimed that He would not rescue them even if they repented and He did not. The Temple was like all pagan temples. If you read Stephen you will discover that God did not want nor need a Temple: trust Christ in the prophets and not the Scribes (hypocrites meaning speakers, singers and instrument players says Jesus).

http://www.piney.com/First-Samuel-Eight.html

......Then, what is it about kings being selected to carry out the robbing, stealing, starving them
......for lack of the Word and carrying out God's captivity and death sentence that causes people to
......lie to God and about God to impose the WARRIOR LEVITE'S INSTRUMENTS in a church
......which is a school (only) of the Bible (only)?

......The Levites were under the KING and the COMMANDERS OF THE ARMY. Why would your preacher
......think that he is a "king set over you" to appeal (always) to the Levites to aid him in the war?

......If a Levite came NEAR any holy thing or place he would be executed by the "brethren."
......They did their dirty work in the slaughter and burning pit which God did not command.
......The body or church of Christ was prefigured by the Holy Place. Why do you think you
......can use the Levites as authority without getting spiritually executed?

I will explain to you later what Stephen meant by their REJOICING and what is translated as PLAY. ACU using their mountain PATTERNISM just skipped past Exodus 32 which PROVES that God removed GRACE because of MUSICAL IDOLALTRY: they were not playing hopscotch. For now, let me define the word HALAL which is the root word for LUCIFER and has the same meaning as Chalal which defines the idolatry which began after Enosh when men began to PROFANELY call themselves Jehovah. It is translated, play the flute, steal people's inheritance, pollute or prostitute. You can take your pick. When Peter speaks of SPORTING do you think they were fishing?

I just can't explain why the UNIVERSAL pleading for instrumental music in the SCHOOL OF CHRIST if from a Warrior's praise song. Nor why people think it is a PSALM. And just why it is they want to go naked with David and make themselves vile. The BOOK of psalms contains only 57 true Mizmors.

You will notice that this fits the PATTERNISM of Israel being TURNED OVER TO WORSHIP THE STARRY HOSTS including LUCIFER (Zoe) who was Venus or the FALSE MORNING STAR.

......Then when you see David sing, dance, go naked and whirl around in a circle why would you NOT
......believe that He was worshiping the starry host? Rather than kill David, God had given him a
......Jebusite High Place already used for Sabazianism.


All of the instruments in Halal 150 (not a psalm) connect to bad people. For instance,

"The psaltery (psalterion, saltere, sauterie, Psalterium, Psalter, salterio) is an ancient intstrument seen in many forms. Early versions were simply a wooden board with gut strings stretched between pegs. The strings were plucked with fingers or by plectra (the name might have derived from the Greek psallein meaning plucked with fingers).

"The name of psaltery entered Christian literature in the 3rd century B.C. translation of the Old Testament called the Septuagint where, in the Psalms, nebel was translated psalterion. Thus, Nebuchadnezzar's idolatrous ensemble included the Aramic psantria. Notice, also, that the book of Psalms has also become known as the Psalter (or psalterium), from the hymns sung with this harp. Source

......H5035 nebel nêbel neh'-bel, nay'-bel From H5034 ; a skin bag for liquids
......(from collapsing when empty); hence, a vase (as similar in shape when full);
......also a lyre (as having a body of like form): bottle, pitcher, psaltery, vessel, viol.

...... H5034 nâbêl naw-bale' A primitive root; to wilt; generally to fall away, fail, faint;
......figuratively to be foolish or (morally) wicked; causatively to despise, disgrace:disgrace,
......dishonour, lightly esteem, fade (away, -ing), fall (down, -ling, off), do foolishly,
......come to nought, X surely, make vile, wither.


The translaters of the Greek version used Psallo because it speaks of MAKING WAR or "shooting love arrows." It has no musical content: it means to PLUCK something. If you pluck a harp string it twangs but it does not make music. All of the PSALLO words demand plucking with the FINGERS but never with a plectrum. That eleminates a guitar pick, trumpet, drum, piano or organ which cannot be PLUCKED with your fingers.

ALL of the prooftext adduced by the Disciples for PSALLO have the context of older males plucking the harp to seduce a young boy.

Plutarch, Lives (ed. Bernadotte Perrin) [4] Such objects are to be found in virtuous deeds; these implant in those who search them out a great and zealous eagerness which leads to imitation. In other cases, admiration of the deed is not immediately accompanied by an impulse to do it. Nay, many times, on the contrary, while we delight in the work, we despise the workman,

......as, for instance, in the case of perfumes and dyes; we take a delight in them,
......but dyers and perfumers we regard as illiberal and vulgar folk.

[5] Therefore it was a fine saying of Antisthenes, when he heard that Ismenias was an excellent piper:

......"But he's a worthless man," said he, "otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper."

And so Philip once said to his son, who, as the wine went round, plucked the strings charmingly and skilfully, "Art not ashamed to pluck the strings so well?" It is enough, surely, if a king have leisure to hear others pluck the strings, and he pays great deference to the Muses if he be but a spectator of such contests.


The musicians in Revelation 18 were the MUSES known as dirty adulterers: they with the speakers and instrument players are called SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world.

In Revelation17 it is the rise (having risen) Babylon mother of harlots who uses "lusted after fruits" as here worship team of sorcerers. Not to worry: most musical and names of instruments are to perform ENCHANTMENT or WITCHCRAFT. These are the same "baskets of summer fruits) Amos warned about.
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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
When the Israelites refused to listen to the Word of God they rose up to PLAY in musical idolatry: as indicated in Romans 1 and lots of other passages the MUSICAL rituals both MARKED and CAUSED an outbreak of sexual perversion.

Because of that God abandoned them to worship the starry host. So, you are dealing with people who would use the CURSE of Sabazianism as their patternism for musical worship. Even though they made NOISE and worship means ot fall on your face.

You could lay out texts from the Serpent as a Musical Enchanter(ess) which Christ in the prophets called "the singing and harp playing prostitute", to the Alpha and Omega warning about the Babylon mother of harlots using lusted after "fruits" as speakers, singers and instrument players John called Sorcerers and they would STILL plead ignorance. I'm Convinced.

Dt 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

The Hebrew for "serpent" in Genesis 3:1 nachash which means to hiss, mutter or whisper as do enchanters. It also means in a secondary sense to divine, or enchant or mesmerize, as a snake often does before catching its prey. It also has the meaning to shine or sparkle, like bronze or copper. Some Scriptures also tell us that Satan has an extremely attractive appearance (see e.g. 2 Cor. 11:3, 14), and this Hebrew word therefore also conveys the meaning to fascinated bewitch. (Cp. Deut. 18:10-14).

Dt 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

As the speakers, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18.

God turning them over to worship the STARRY HOST is THEIR authority and they use the COMMANDS to worship like the Babylonians as THEIR commands for worship BECAUSE God never said "Thou shalt not worship like the Babylonians.

HERE IS AN APPROVED NEGATIVE EXAMPLE

For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the Lord thy God hath not suffered thee so to do. Deut 18:14

Observer of times:

H6049 ânan aw-nan' A primitive root; to cover; used only as denominative from H6051 ,
to cloud over; figuratively to act covertly, that is, practise magic, enchanter, Meonemin, observe (-r of) times,
soothsayer, sorcerer.

Anath (h6067) an-awth'; from 6030; answer; Anath, an Isr.: - Anath.

Anan (h6049) aw-nan'; a prim. root; to cover; used only as denom. from 6051, to cloud over; fig. to act covertly, i. e. practise magic: - * bring, enchanter, Meonemin, observe (-r of) times, soothsayer, sorcerer.
Anath: This Canaanite Goddess' name means 'to answer' and may be related to the Akkadian word ettu meaning 'active will.160' She was a major deity all over the western parts of the Near East, including Egypt where she was later considered to be the same Goddess as Libyan Neith. Titles for her include Belet'net 'virgin Anath,' 'Nethebely161 'the destroyer,' and Yebemet-limm 'widow of the nation(?)'162. Her worship extended from the 2nd millenium BCE deep into the Hellenistic Age, when it began to be forced underground. Like the original Athena, she ruled battle, the hunt, and the passage of souls from one world to the next. She was also a Death Goddess who wore the goatskin aegis -- or at least, the Egyptians attributed Neith's aegis to her. This sacred garment has been described as a cloak, apron, breastplate, or shield. In Anath's case, it shifted in function as religious ceremony changed. Originally it was probably a garment worn by each Libyan woman when she came of age, made of cloth and marked with snakes and Moon symbols, or made of many braids of string.

Later it was remade, parts of its feminine symbolism removed and turned into a garment worn during animal sacrifices. Then it was decorated with severed penises, representing both types of death men experience, loss of erection and the ending of their lives.


Those who have been MUSICATED cannot bring themselves to grasp that as promised the WOMEN and CHILDREN (effeminate) rule over you. I just smile and smile because I have read Isaiah 3 written by Christ.

Lucifer (Zoe) replaced 3 tribal stones on the breastplate with wind, string and percussion instruments. Christ in Isaiah 30 says that hell was prepared for him/her and those they can seduce. The SOUNDS of being driven into hell are the same wind, string and percussion instruments. Christ says that Lucifer/Zoe was the singing and harp playing prostitute in the Garden Eden.

When the Levites (an old Egyptian Cult) were to PROPHESY with instruments: the word means a SOOTHSAYER. Why NOT if God turned the musical patternist's APPROVED EXAMPLE over to worship the STARS? The linen garment of the priests was something like a "nighty" garment. The Ephod was a Babylonian vulva still worn by the Pope under his DAGON hat.


Actually, everywhere you look, it seems, they're dancing in their dresses. So we thus find The Childrens custom of dressing "like a woman," from which the later Christian priests adopted their heavenly skirts. And with the ancient KABIRI statue of a god called Cabeiros,

Plutrarch says they were the astronomers and astrologers of Chaldea around 3200 B.C.
According to Herodotus, they surfaced some 2,000 years after that as an effeminate priesthood in what is now southern Russia and present-day Ukraine. They were called the ENAREE, "endowed by the goddess Venus with the gift of prophecy."

They can also be found transformed into the wild young goat man, PAN [Beast in Revelation], frolicking through the glades. As the GALLI priest [Galatians 5] with (according to another tight-assed academic) their "revolting sensual rites [and] the hermaphroditic element," their drums thundered and cymbals clashed, spreading magic among the onlookers lining the flower-strewn streets.


Heredotus also note what is clear from the MUSICAL IDOLATRY at Mount Sinai, the "god" of the Jews was Bacchus or Dionysus: the same "new wineskin God." The Jews at the time of Christ were addicted to Dionysus worship and wanted to "initiate" Jesus and hoped that John wore the "soft clothing." Zeus (father) and Dionysus (son) were worshipped as the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple. All priests were "gay brotherhoods."

REMEMBER: GOD ABANDONED THEM TO WORSHIP THE STARY HOST

David had these on his staff because he was abandoned to worship the starry host.

"We even have a mention at a later date of a similar custom in connection with the cult in Jerusalem, where certain Levites, called me'oreim, 'AROUSERS,' sang (every morning?) this verse from "Ps 44:23: "Awake, O Lord! Why do you sleep? Rouse yourself! Do not reject us forever." The Talmud tells us that John Hyrcanus suppressed the practice because it recalled too readily a pagan custom." (Roland de Vaux, p. 247).

Enchanter:
H5172 nâchash naw-khash' A primitive root; properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to prognosticate:-- X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
H5175 nâchâsh naw-khawsh' From H5172 ; a snake (from its hiss):--serpent.

Ps 58:5 Which will not hearken to the voice [singing] of cha
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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
Galatians 5:16
"So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature."


We often miss the PUNCH LINE.
Paul, and history agrees, that Paul never speaks of "spirit" as a person much less a third member of the Godhead. In Romans 7-8 Paul's conflict was between HIS spirit and HIS flesh. That conflict continues as we speak.

Gal. 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal. 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh:
and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.


NOW JUMP BACK AND UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE RE-CRUCIFY CHRIST WHEN THEY INTRODUCE RITUALS TO "CREATE SPIRITUAL ANXIETY THROUGH RELIGIOUS RITUALS." THAT IS THE LADED BURDEN JESUS DIED TO REMOVE.

Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

Apokopto (g609) ap-ok-op'-to; from 575 and 2875; to amputate; reflex. (by irony) to mutilate (the privy parts): - cut off. Comp. 2699.


Gregory Nazianzen

Nor are we concerned with Phrygian mutilations and flutes and Corybantes, and all the ravings of men concerning Rhea [Zoe], consecrating people to the mother of the gods, and being initiated into such ceremonies as befit the mother of such gods as these. Nor have we any carrying away of the Maiden, nor wandering of Demeter, nor her intimacy with Celei and Triptolemi and Dragons; nor her doings and sufferings ... for I am ashamed to bring into daylight that ceremony of the night, and to make a sacred mystery of obscenity. Eleusis knows these things, and so do those who are eyewitnesses of what is there guarded by silence, and well worthy of it. Nor is our commemoration one of Dionysus, and the thigh that travailed with an incomplete birth, as before a head had travailed with another; nor of the hermaphrodite god, nor a chorus of the drunken and enervated host; nor of the folly of the Thebans which honours him; nor the thunderbolt of Semele which they adore. Nor is it the harlot mysteries of Aphrodite, who, as they themselves admit, was basely born and basely honoured; nor have we here Phalli and Ithyphalli, shameful both in form and action; nor Taurian massacres of strangers; nor blood of Laconian youths shed upon the altars, as they scourged themselves with the whips; and in this case alone use their courage badly, who honour a goddess, and her a virgin. For these same people both honour effeminacy, and worship boldness.

NOTES: 11 There was a temple of Rhea in Phrygia, in which at her festivals people mutilated themselves to do her honour. The flutes alluded to served to turn the thoughts of the sufferes from the pain of the operation.

The Corybantes were the ministers of the goddess, who led the wild orgies of her worship. It is believed that there is an allusion to this practice of self-mutilation in Galat. v. 12. So at least S. Jerome, S. Ambrose, and all the Greek Fathers take the passage. S. Thomas Aquinas, understanding the word in the same sense, applies it mystically; and Estius, who here follows Erasmus, refers the "cutting off" merely to excommunication, a sense which he calls "Apostolico sensu dignior,"through why "dignior" it is not easy to see. Yet he acknowledges that those who interpret it literally do so "non immerito."
Here is what an agitator does to recrucify Christ


Anastatoo (g387) an-as-tat-o'-o; from a der. of 450 (in the sense of removal); prop. to drive out of home, i.e. (by impl.) to disturb (lit. or fig.): - trouble, turn upside down, make an uproar, to stir up, excite, unsettle to excite tumults and seditions in the state to upset, unsettle, minds by disseminating religious error

Psallo psallô I. In gen., to play upon a stringed instrument; esp., to play upon the cithara, to sing to the cithara: psallere saltare elegantius, Horace Odes 4:13.7. Jucundus, Voluptuosus

Elegant Elego I. to convey away (from the family) by bequest, to bequeath away

Have you noticed that when they resurrected the PSALLO word they KNEW that they would sow discord and DRIVE AWAY the family? This is to RECRUCIFY CHRIST.

PSALLO IS ALWAYS USED OF WARRIORS, PAGANS OR PERVERTS:

Against Catiline [23] In these bands are all the gamblers, all the adulterers, all the unclean and shameless citizens. These boys, so witty and delicate, have learnt not only to love and to be loved, not only to sing and to dance, but also to brandish daggers and to administer poisons; and unless they are driven out, unless they die, even should Catiline die, I warn you that the school of Catiline would exist in the republic.

Horace Odes 4.13
The gods have heard, the gods have heard my prayer;
Yes, Lyce! you are growing old, and still
You struggle to look fair;
You drink, and dance, and trill
Your songs to youthful Love, in accents weak
With wine, and age, and passion. Youthful Love!
He dwells in Chia's cheek,
And hears her harp-strings move.


HERE IS THE PRACTICE AND THE PEOPLE DEFINED AS AGITATORS:

Melpô, Sing or celebrate a song and dance Melos 2.music to which a song is set, tune 3. melody of an instrument, Mouso-polos, on, A.serving the Muses, poetic II. Subst., bard, minstrel, AS THE: Aoidos A.singer, minstrel, bard, 3.enchanter, Eunouchos Eunouchos A.castrated person, eunuch, employed to take charge of the women Gallos, ho, A. priest of Cybele, Used with: Pempô, 2. pompên p. conduct, or take part in, a procession, chorous move in dancing procession, phallos Dionusôi pempomenos carried in procession in his honour

Chrysostom's Commentary on Galatians:

Galatians 5:1.-"With freedom did Christ set us free; stand fast therefore.115 ."

Ver. 12.

"I would that they which unsettle you would even cut themselves off." And he says well "that unsettle you."
"A man that is heretical after the first and second admonition refuse." (Tit. iii: 10) If they will,

let them not only be circumcised, but mutilated.

Where then are those who dare to mutilate themselves; seeing that they draw down the Apostolic curse, and accuse the workmanship of God, and take part with the Manichees? ... But if you will not allow this,

why do you not mutilate the tongue for blasphemy, the hands for rapine, the feet for their evil courses, in short, the whole body?

For the ear enchanted by the sound of a flute hath often enervated the soul;
and the perception of a sweet perfume by the nostrils hath bewitched the mind, and made it frantic for pleasure.
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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
Eusebio Tanicala: 13 Steps to a Better Understanding Why the Use of Mechanical Instruments of Music in Christian Worship Lacks New Testament Authority In Bible Study Lessons, Features on January 29, 2009 at 5:35 am

http://www.piney.com/Tanicala.13Steps.Instruments.html

However, what he proves is that the OLD TESTAMENT had absolute authority and that Christian Worship simply LACKS AUTHORITY which would be a command, example or inference. Both the Old and New Testaments are filled with word meanings which repudiate music in the not commanded sacrificial system and identifies it with the always-perverted pagan religions.

Eusebio lists several steps from the Old Testament to PROVE that God commanded and approved instrumental music in worship. Why are we not surprised when most preachers in the CONSERVATIVE church of Christ teaches and believes the same things. Men of NOTE will hurt you real bad if you suggest that this was not the old legal PATTERNISM. HOWEVER, God has changed His Mind and given us a NEW LAW OF WORSHIP which does nothing more than simply OMIT naming instruments.

Those wanting to impose instruments will never be convinced by the claimed LACK OF EVIDENCE. Christ speaks through the Prophets and not the Scribes whom he identified as hypocrites by naming speakers, singers and instrument players.

This material is published for the Filipino Brethren.
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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

http://www.piney.com/Maury.Hills.Church ... umbia.html

Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
DID GOD COMMAND INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC AS WORSHIP IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. Jesus warned that doctors of the law have the purpose driven goal to "take away the key to knowledge." That is why they deliberately ignore God's use of religious music as the MARK of Satan from Genesis to Revelation. No historic scholar was so ignorant that they would claim what the THOUGHT LEADERS who have infiltrated churches of Christ to DIVERT them claim as scholarly.

1. It is safe to say that all of the "conservative" preachers in the Church of Christ believe and teach that GOD COMMANDED INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC as worship under the OLD LAW.
2. But, because we live under a NEW LAW and instruments are not commanded as part of that Law.
3. We do not use instruments because it is simply NOT COMMANDED

* It is also safe to say that most preachers, the theological scholars at once-Christian colleges and even the Greek and Hebrew scholars believe and teach
* That even with the long list of the ACTS including the use of singing with instrumental music in the temple was not wrong within itself (since it was, they believe, commanded by God).
* However, God just condemned their bad mental attitude.

One could reasonably ask whether these people supported by non-instrumental groups do not INTEND to givbe aid and comfort to the instrumental discorders.

Are people who think that Amos condemned the FACT of singing and instruments in the temple just ignorant fools?

Part One 13 Steps to understand the the use of Instruments

http://www.piney.com/Tanicala.13Steps.Instruments.html

Part Two: Insisting that God COMMANDED the use of instrumental Music under the Law

http://www.piney.com/Tanicala.Commands.Instruments.html

Part Three: Question on Amos 5:23

http://www.piney.com/Eusebio.Tanicala.Amos.5.html

By Eusebio Tanicala

To my brethren and especially members of the PBC alumni association, please open your Bible to Amos 5:23.
Please open your eyes and your mind.
What is the first part of v. 23? It says,
Take away from Me the noise of your songs.
If v. 23 prohibits the use of stringed instruments,
should not singing also be prohibited.


Both Amos and the Classics repudiate singing AND playing an instrument at the same time: that would be for the women and effeminate in most societies.

But why do you sing in your worship time? Why do you sing in your birthday celebrations? Why do you sing during funeral services? Why apply prohibition on the second part of the verse but not in the first part of the verse.

Indeed, those who know the context of Amos and consistency as well as simple logic would only laugh at Churches of Christ preachers who use Amos 5:6 in arguing against the use of instruments of music.

I plead with fellow preachers and church leaders to STOP using Amos 5 and Amos 6
as proofs against the use of instruments of music in worship.
Using them as proofs against instrument of music in worship
would only reveal ignorance and would help perpetuate wresting of scriptures.
Further, a foolish and weak argument against a practice removes the sting of ones advocacy. ( Eusebio Tanicala, Ph.D.)

How then should we interpret Amos 5:21-25 and Amos 6:4-6? Are the items enumerated prohibited? How do we interpret You sing idle songs to the sound of the harp, and you fancy yourselves to be great musicians, as King David was? (NLB)

Second, we should be consistent. Look at the context. If the portion, I will not hear the melody of thy viols (5:23). were a prohibition on the use of instruments of music at the time of Amos, then to be contextually consistent, all others in the context disliked by Yahweh, like feast days, solemn assemblies, burnt offerings, meat offerings, peace offerings, drinking with the use of bowls, eating fatted cows, lying on soft beds, ..


AS FAR AS I CAN DETERMINE THAT MAKES ALL RECORDED COMMENTATORS IGNORANT FOOLS.

......"we recognize the same elements: the sacrifices and libation, the cultic feast in which the congregation gets a share of food and drink after it has been blessed by the king, and the merry-making, now in the form of instrumental and vocal music. But the central act of the ritual, which was performed by the king, is called literally 'drinking' the god (Gurney, O. R. Some Aspects of Hittite Religion, p. 33-34, Oxford University Press, 1977)

......"Sacrifices, rituals, festivals honoring Yahweh abounded, but these rites were tangible evidence of lack of knowledge, for they expressed the popular belief that Yahweh could be pleased and pacified by cultic ceremonies.

......"The condemnation of cultic rites introduced in 4:4 f. and 5:4 f. is picked up again with new vehemence. It has been argued that Amos was not opposed to cultic ritual per se but condemned the mind set of the people by which responsibility to Yahweh was performed perfunctorily and without relationship to daily life and society.

"If we take Amos' words as they stand, there seems to be little doubt that he condemned the entire religious pattern--feasts, sacrifices, ritual music, offerings, tithes--everything. Gerald LaRue, History of the O.T

......NO command of God was ever so ascribed to man. The use of the instruments of music in the Old Testament were of man, not of God." (Tract on music, Lipscomb).

......"Doubtless they sounded harmoniously in their own ears; but it reached no further. Their melody, like much Church-music, was for itself, and ended in itself. 'Let Christian chanters learn hence, not to set the whole devotion of Psalmody in a good voice, subtelty of modulation and rapid intonation, quavering like birds, to tickle the ears of the curious, take them off to themselves and away from prayer, lest they hear from God." (Barnes, Albert, Amos, p. 300)

"Surely these inspired statements are sufficient to show that David made, invented, and commanded the use of instruments of music in divine worship. Where does revelation explain that God made, invented, appointed, or commanded the use of instrumental music in ordained worship of that age? On the basis of plain declarations, the contention that David introduced the idea is founded; in the absence of such testimony that God is the author, we reject the opinion that God authorized the practice." (L.O. Sanderson, p. 350).

......"From the beginning, then, it was not so. Neither is it a part of or aid to Christian worship. Since there is no record of God ordaining the practice, he must have simply tolerated or indulged it, just as he did regarding some ignorance, kings, divorces, and polygamy" (Sanderson, p. 351).

"It was by the hand or commandment of the Lord and his prophets that the Levites should praise the Lord; for so the Hebrew text may be understood:

"and it was by the order of David that so many instruments of music should be introduced into the Divine service." (Adam Clark, Commentary on 2 Chron. 29:25).

Then Clark says:

......"But were it evident, which it is not, either from this (2 Chron. 29:25) or any other place in the sacred writings, that instruments of music were prescribed by Divine authority under the law, could this be adduced with any semblance of reason that they ought to be used in Christian Worship? No..." (Adam Clark, Commentary, Vol. II, PP. 690-691).

"I believe that David was not authorized by the Lord to introduce that multitude of musical instruments into the divine worship of which we read; and I am satisfied that his conduct in this respect is most solemnly reprehended by this prophet; and I further believe that the use of such instruments of music in the Christian church is without the sanction and against the will of God; that they are subversive of the spirit of true devotion...if there was a woe to them who invented instruments of music, as did David under the law, is there no woe...to those who introduce them?" (Adam Clark, Commenting on Amos 6:5).

......"It is foreign also to the piety of Clement that the (song) instituted for drinking companies, to be sung in the convivial feasts of the Gentiles... As if he [Clement] did not know that Psalms, not 'wine songs,'... were recited at the close of the Supper... I say that so great a profanation of the Psalms is most severely condemned by God in the third [commandment] of the Decalogue and Amos 5:23; 6:5" (Joseph Bingham, Antiq. of the Christian Church, Vol. 2, p. 485 quoting Clement).

......"...Scriptures do condemn the use that David made of the instruments in worship--Amos 6:5: 'Woe to them... that chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of music, like David;' and Amos 5:23: 'Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.' The condemnation of the instruments of music in this passage turns on the phrase like David--it does not say like David's, which could refer only to the instruments, but like David is the use that David made of the instruments. David did not invent the musical instrument--Jubal invented the instruments (Gen. 4:21)--but David invented them for worship--they were David's innovation." (Wallace, p. 177).

......"Amos, we are told, is the sharpest critic of musical instruments in pre-Christian times. through him God expresses a preference for justice and honesty over bloody sacrifice and its attendant music of song and instruments. This sentiment, we are told, was revolutionary, making part of a similar change felt over the civilized world... And overall view of the evidence, McKinnon thinks, reveals a relationship between the three elements: a higher conception of God, a rejection of sacrifice, and a rejection of musical instruments." (Green, William M, Pepperdine College, in Restoration Quarterly, v. 19, 1966).

......"To hear a man's or woman's voice sing Handel's solo... beats through one's chest with some sort of a throb depending on how well he or she is singing, and how much you respond to this kind of music. But no matter how much you may 'enjoy' Handel's solo, the words are not meant to be entertainment." (Schaeffer, Edith, Christianity is Jewish, p. 1)

...... "Amos stressed "that violations of the moral law could not be remedied by means of festive rites, offerings, or liturgical indulgence on the part of the sinner. In point of fact, God was already standing beside the altar (Am. 9:1ff), poised and ready to shatter it. No ritual, however, elaborate and symbolic in nature, could possibly substitute for the sincere worship of the human spirit, grounded in high moral and ethical principles." (Harrison, p. 895).

...... "Not surprisingly, most Israelites declined the prophet's invitation to enter into a dialog with Yahweh. They preferred a less demanding religion of cultic observance either in the Jerusalem Temple or in the old fertility cults of Canaan. This continues to be the case: the religion of compassion is followed only by a minority; most religious people are content with decorous worship in synagogue, church, temple and mosque. The ancient Canaanite religions were still flourishing in Israel... the Israelites were still taking part in fertility rites and sacred sex there, as we see in the oracles of the prophet Hosea, Amos' contemporary." (Armstrong, Karen, A History of God, p. 47).

F. B. Bruce is one of the best known modern writer and one might expect that he would defend the denominational practice. However, he like most who rest on their scholarship tell the truth. He wrote--

......"The Holy Spirit, uttering His voice by Amos, pronounces the rich to be wretched on account of their luxury: 'Those that drink strained wine, and recline on an ivory couch,' he says; and what else similar he adds by way of reproach. Especial regard is to be paid to decency (as the myth represents Athene, whoever she was, out of regard to it,

......giving up the pleasure of the flute because of the unseemliness of the sight). (Clement of Alexandria, p. 245).

"...these same people were punctilious in their religious observances. Never did such abundant sacrifices smoke to Yahweh from the altars at Dan and Bethel and other sanctuaries in Israel; and the note of praise rose regularly and loudly from tongue and harp. Was not this the worship in which Yahweh delighted? So they thought, but the voice of Yahweh through His prophet told a different story." (F.F. Bruce, Israel, p. 58).

Bruce shows, along with the LXX, that (1) music was used as worship, (2) they thought that God would delight in it, but (3) God condemned it. This refutes those who deny that Amos said anything about music and it supports the clear statement and context of the book of Amos.

Most ancient scholars not only condemn music as worship but show that it had its origin in pagan superstition and was the product of the poets (songs as magical incantations)--

......"It was only permitted to the Jews as sacrifice was, for the heaviness and grossness of their souls. God condescended to their weakness, because they were lately drawn off from idols; but now, instead of organs, we may use our own bodies to praise him withal." (Chrysostom on Psa. 149, Vol. iii, p. 634).

"I say that so great a profanation of the Psalms is most severely condemned by God in the third [commandment] of the Decalogue and Amos 5:23; 6:5, 5" (Joseph Bingham, Antiq. of the Christian Church, Vol. 2, p. 485 quoting Clement)

"It is foreign also to the piety of Clement that the (song) instituted for drinking companies, to be sung in the convivial feasts of the Gentiles... As if he [Clement] did not know that Psalms, not 'wine songs,'... were recited at the close of the Supper... I say that so great a profanation of the Psalms is most severely condemned by God in the third [commandment] of the Decalogue and Amos 5:23; 6:5" (Joseph Bingham, Antiq. of the Christian Church, Vol. 2, p. 485 quoting Clement).

"This passage (Amos 5:23-24) shows us that Amos was opposed

......to the forms in which people acted out their worship of God,
...... and other passages strengthen this impression.

......Turning back to the Mosaic period, Amos asks the rhetorical question: 'Did you bring to me sacrifices and offerings the forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel?" (5:25). He is merciless in his attack on the shrines, especially the royal shrine of Jeroboam II at Bethel (3:14; 7:7-9, 10-17; 9:1). It is very doubtful, however, that he intended a wholesale abolition of the system of worship. Rather, Amos was probably demanding that the cult be purified, for it had become so contaminated by pagan thought and practice that the people had become indifferent to the true worship of Yahweh and the demand of his torah... He demanded that everything be swept away that did not conform to the proper worship of Yahweh." (Anderson, Bernard, Understanding OT, p. 277).

...... "The prophets were singularly unimpressed by all this religious busyness. They asserted that the people had abandoned the true God for heathen idolatries and that their much-frequented sanctuaries were sinks of iniquity. Recent archaeological discoveries go a long way towards confirming their condemnation of popular religion. It is significant, for example, that on the ostraca from eighth-century Samaria, the proportion of names compounded with Baal suggests that no less than a third of the population practiced some form of Canaanite religion." (Heaton, E. W., Everyday Life in the Old Testament, Scribners), p. 231).

......You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god -- which you made for yourselves. -- Amos 5:26

...... Yea, ye took the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Raephan,
the image of them which ye made for yourselves." Amos 5:26 LXX

......"The neighboring gods of Phoenicia, Canaan, Moab--Baal, Melkart, Astarte, Chemosh, Moloch, etc--were particularly attractive to Jerusalem, while the old Sem calf-worship seriously affected the state religion of the Northern Kingdom...the worship of the sun, moon, stars and signs of the Zodiac became so intensely fascinating that these were introduced even into the temple itself (2 Ki. 17:16; 21:3-7; 23:4, 12; Jer. 19:13; Ezek. 8:16; Amos 5:26)" (Int Std Bible Ency., Idolatry, p. 1448).
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The Regulative Principle. UPDATED.

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I know that Russ claims to be the Authoritative Teacher (replacing Jesus and Paul) but I am afraid that no WAGED person who does not obey Jesus command to teach and observe what HE commanded is able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3). Therefore, in giving LIMITED authority to you 'Wimmen' He misses the fact that HE is commanded to be in SILENCE, peaceful and HONEST. That is so that an ELDER can exercise their only authority to 'Teach that which has been taught' or "speak that which is written for our learning. I am trying to keep a look in 1 Timothy 2 SHORT happy.gif for those who CARE what Scripture says.

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Russ has no idea of the meaning of female AUTHORITY but he is willing to BESTOW it: I will do some reading 101a and show you some historical evidence. This is a work in progress. If you have a question you do not have to give your name.


Maury Hills (Columbia Tn) split a faithful Highland Church of Christ to start their own church. Russ Adcox is minister there, and they believe in using instruments and fellowshiping with denominations... they are strong believers in the purpose driven church model.

My bet is that the trumpet-like voice of Jesus would sound while all of the Judas Church is engaged in musical idolatry: they claim to be LIGHTING THE FIRES already.





Next, I will show you that the Judas Bag and the SOP (root for psallo) shows the blasphemy of mocking Jesus with the "vocal and instrumental rejoicing" as well as rhetorical (sissy) outlawed for the Church in the wilderness and left as a "Way of Escape" for the Godly people even as the Levites engaged in SOOTHYING with INSTRUMENTAL ACCOMPANIMENT to keep the godly people away from the curse of animal slaughter as Rick Atchley, etal PATTERNISM.

Then I will show you how Rick Atchley etal BOAST about pulling the Judas Movement on unsuspecting churches.
C. THE AGE OF THE LAW:

Starting with Moses God instituted the Jewish laws and the Jews were commanded to do them. This was the beginning of the dispensation of law and was in effect, for the Jews, until the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70 AD. God's relationship with the nation of Israel was one of faith in God, AND doing the works of the law (faith + works, James 2:24). If you can see it, the main thing that Jesus told the Jews is that they had left out the "faith in God" part and only had faith in their religion (works) (read Luke 7:1-9 and notice verse 9 and read John 5:38-40).


Neither Abraham nor Rahab were JEWS and they were never under the Law of Moses.

James 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way

THE FAITH is contrasted to THE LAW. This is not related to personal faith: If a Jew by faith obeyed every jot and tittle of The Book of The Law they would not be one bit more righteous. God did not NEED a covenant or system of religious acts to approve people:

......Acts 10:35 But in every nation
............he that feareth him,
............and worketh righteousness,
............is accepted with him
......Psa. 15:1 LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
......Psa. 15:2 He that walketh uprightly,
............and worketh righteousness,
............and speaketh the truth in his heart.

There is no way to perform priestly roles. God has no interest in ceremonial legalism. He does not judge by what he seees or hears. So, get a job like Paul commanded Timothy so you can minister to the poor.

There is only one Spiritual Covenant: that made by Christ to Abraham. Abraham was not a Jew and the Covenant of Grace was to bless ALL NATIONS. There were 70 known nations at this time. The later Israelites lost faith and went into Egyptian Captivity for 430 years. The promise by Christ to the NATIONS was BEFORE the law and the Law of Moses did not REPLACE the Abrhamic covenant.

That Book of the Covenant of Grace was offered to Israel at Mount Sinai but before it could be written down they TURNED BACK to their old Babylonian / Egyptian worship of the heavenly bodies (Sabazianism). God saw this as their REJECTION of Grace and of HIM so he came with a FIREY LAW to govern them until the captivity and death sentence could be carried out.

From the wilderness onward, the godly people not of the cursed tribe of Levi attended the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness. They were quarantined outside the gates where the blood and flesh lust of the Levi tribe took place.

One value of the New Covenant is that the Abrahamic Covenant of Grace is restored, empowered by Jesus Christ as the SOLE Rabbi ONLY when the leaders "teach that which has been taught." You cannot even HALLUCINATE any musical content when Jesus is present and teaching us as DISCIPLES and not as CEREMONIAL LEGALISTS DOING WORSHIP.

The other value is that the EVIL Civil-Military-Priestly system has been cut down with its houses built by human hands.

......Ezek. 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
......Ezek. 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
......Ezek. 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem;
............Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan;
............thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.
......Rev. 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
............which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,
............where also our Lord was crucified.

That is what many are PURPOSED DRIVEN to restore as quickly as their evil little hands can restore it.

......Gal. 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which
............are OF FAITH, the same are the children of Abraham.
......Gal. 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith,
............preached before the gospel unto Abraham,
............saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
......Gal. 3:9 So then they which be OF FAITH are blessed with faithful Abraham.

HOW DID GOD DEFINE JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH?

......Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven,
............and will give unto thy seed all these countries;
............and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
......Gen. 26:5 Because that Abraham
............obeyed my voice,
............and kept my charge,
............my commandments,
............my statutes,
............and my laws.
......Gen. 26:6 And Isaac dwelt in Gerar:

......Gal. 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written,
............Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things
............which are written in the book of the law to do them.
......Gal. 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident:
............for, The just shall live by faith.
......Gal. 3:12 And the law is not of faith:
............but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
......Gal. 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law,
............being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

......Gal. 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ;
............that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
......Gal. 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men;
......Though it be but a mans covenant, yet if it be confirmed,
......no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

......The Israelites refused to listen to The Book of The Covenant.
......They engaged in musical idolatry.
......God turned them over to worship the starry host of their old Babylon or Egypt.
......The Book of The Law was to regulate the Civil-Military-Clergy national system
............It had no ability to cleanse the conscience.

......Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers,
............A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren,
............like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
......Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass,
............that every soul, which will not hear that prophet,
............shall be destroyed from among the people.

......He that believeth AND is baptized SHALL BE saved
......He that believith NOT shall be damned.
......Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
............and preach the gospel to every creature. [No Jew-Gentile distinction]
......Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
............but he that believeth not shall be damned.

......Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after,
............as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Acts 3:24
......Ye are the children of the prophets,
............and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham,
............And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Acts 3:25

......That is why the Prophecies made more certain by Jesus Christ are our SPIRITUAL FATHERS
......Under the ONLY SPIRITUAL covenant of Grace.
......FLEE from Babylon when any simpleton tells YOU that the Spirit told HIM that the sacrificial
......Horror is YOUR pattern for musical worship.

......Unto you first
............God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you,
............in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Acts 3:26

......Turning means to be converted means to be baptized FOR the remission of sins.

......Gal. 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
............He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one,
............And to thy seed, which is Christ.

......Gal. 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God IN Christ,
............the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul,
............that it should make the promise of none effect.

......Gal. 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise:
............but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

......Gal. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law?
............It was added because of transgressions,
..................till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;
......and it was ordained by angels in the HAND of a mediator.

......"The triumphal hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it;
...... but the employment of music in religious services, though idolatrous,
......is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the erection
...... of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).


......Isa 59:15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey.
............And the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

......Isa 59:16 And he saw that there was no man,
............and wondered that there was no intercessor:
............therefore his arm brought salvation unto him;
............and his righteousness, it sustained him.

......Isa 59:17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate,
............and a helmet of salvation upon his head;
............and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing,
............and was clad with zeal as a cloak.

......Isa 59:18 According to their deeds,
............accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries,
............recompense to his enemies;
............to the islands he will repay recompense.

......Isa 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west,
............and his glory from the rising of the sun.
............When the enemy shall come in like a flood,
............the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.

......Gal. 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
......Gal. 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God?
............God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life,
............verily righteousness should have been by the law.

......Gal. 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin,
............that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

......Gal. 3:23 But before faith [the faith] came,
............we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

......Gal. 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ,
............hat we might be justified by faith.
......Gal. 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

......WHAT? Gal. 3:26 FOR ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
......HOW? Gal. 3:27 FOR as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

NO MORE, NO LESS:

......Gal. 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free,
............there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

......Gal. 3:29 And if ye be Christs, then are ye Abrahams seed,
............and heirs according to the promise.


Because Abraham was not a Jew, there is NO distinction: Christ sent the first apostles to ALL NATIONS which included anyone who would hear. They were commanded to begin in Jerusalem, then Judea, then Samaria and then to the uttermost parts of the world (Gentiles).

Paul denies that he preached a GOSPEL OF GRACE in contrast to a GOSPEL OF LAW. As I remember it Peter baptized the first gentiles.
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