The 4x800 in San Diego - Revisited

The 4x800 in San Diego - Revisited

Don Mario
Don Mario

April 13th, 2012, 4:23 pm #1

Last weekend at Arcadia, the Cathedral Catholic boys ran a very impressive 7:51.09 in the 4x800. This was good enough for 6th in their race. After the race, a conversation came up as to how that stacked up in county lore.

We know that the TP boys last year have the standard at 7:48.xx and that the 2000 West Hills crew ran 7:50 and change. A bit of research on this forum led me to find that a Valhalla team from the 70's also ran under 7:50. I guess what we want to know if this puts our boys 4th in county history.

Buzz or anyone with any recollection... were there any comparable times put down in the 60's, early 70's or even 80's?

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old coach
old coach

April 13th, 2012, 7:12 pm #2

Dan Ungricht and his teammates may have been in the neighborhood.
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Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

April 14th, 2012, 12:03 am #3

Last weekend at Arcadia, the Cathedral Catholic boys ran a very impressive 7:51.09 in the 4x800. This was good enough for 6th in their race. After the race, a conversation came up as to how that stacked up in county lore.

We know that the TP boys last year have the standard at 7:48.xx and that the 2000 West Hills crew ran 7:50 and change. A bit of research on this forum led me to find that a Valhalla team from the 70's also ran under 7:50. I guess what we want to know if this puts our boys 4th in county history.

Buzz or anyone with any recollection... were there any comparable times put down in the 60's, early 70's or even 80's?
is cathedral running it again at Mt. Sac?
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JC
JC

April 14th, 2012, 7:39 am #4

Last weekend at Arcadia, the Cathedral Catholic boys ran a very impressive 7:51.09 in the 4x800. This was good enough for 6th in their race. After the race, a conversation came up as to how that stacked up in county lore.

We know that the TP boys last year have the standard at 7:48.xx and that the 2000 West Hills crew ran 7:50 and change. A bit of research on this forum led me to find that a Valhalla team from the 70's also ran under 7:50. I guess what we want to know if this puts our boys 4th in county history.

Buzz or anyone with any recollection... were there any comparable times put down in the 60's, early 70's or even 80's?
the 2 mile relay time was 7:53 but after converting it it goes down to 7:48.36
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JC
JC

April 14th, 2012, 7:39 am #5

correction 1974
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Stevenson
Stevenson

April 14th, 2012, 4:13 pm #6

Last weekend at Arcadia, the Cathedral Catholic boys ran a very impressive 7:51.09 in the 4x800. This was good enough for 6th in their race. After the race, a conversation came up as to how that stacked up in county lore.

We know that the TP boys last year have the standard at 7:48.xx and that the 2000 West Hills crew ran 7:50 and change. A bit of research on this forum led me to find that a Valhalla team from the 70's also ran under 7:50. I guess what we want to know if this puts our boys 4th in county history.

Buzz or anyone with any recollection... were there any comparable times put down in the 60's, early 70's or even 80's?
Dale Fleet, Dave Harper, et al are still 6th on the all time nationl 4xmile list at 17:15 from 1971. Check with Fleet, gotta believe they ran some speedy 4x8's.
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buzz thom
buzz thom

April 14th, 2012, 8:40 pm #7

the 2 mile relay time was 7:53 but after converting it it goes down to 7:48.36
I'd have to look this up, but the conversion for four 880s would have to be around three seconds, probably a bit less.
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JC
JC

April 14th, 2012, 9:30 pm #8

http://usa.milesplit.com/calc...entered it as it was run as a 2 mile since that is the exact distance. maybe the a Old "Math" teacher can get the exact time.
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buzz thom
buzz thom

April 14th, 2012, 10:17 pm #9

you need to convert the race as an aggregate of 880 times; two mile pace is much slower. The Track and Field News BIG RED BOOK has the conversion listed as 2.5 seconds. Now there are more sophisticated ways to convert some of these old relay races, but none of them are really perfect, since the difference in the distance covered is a bit. I think a few people have suggested that you can make the adjustment based on the average pace of the runners in the race, which takes a bit of work and still does not result in a perfect equivalent.
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buzz thom
buzz thom

April 14th, 2012, 10:22 pm #10

Dan Ungricht and his teammates may have been in the neighborhood.
I think most of Ungricht's teammates were longer distance oriented (two-mile, cross country). They DID run the distance medley in 10:23.4, which was a Section all-time best at the time. Although Ungricht ran 1:53.0, his next fastest teammate was Dave Carter at 2:00.1.
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