ALCOR SPREADSHEETS ...thread 2

ALCOR SPREADSHEETS ...thread 2

Rick55
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November 25th, 2012, 1:50 pm #1

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Rick55
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November 25th, 2012, 2:35 pm #2

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November 25th, 2012, 5:38 pm #3

Earlier in the thread I noted this...

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Does it occur to anyone to read the court documents in the on-going Alcor vs. Larry Johnson/Scott Baldyga/Vanguard Publishing lawsuit? I just find it odd that no one comments on the >200 published documents, in a legal case that could influence the future of cryonics.

Isn't anyone curious, regarding the claims/arguments BOTH sides are making?

Does everyone think that, because Alcor settled with Johnson, the legal battles have ended? They haven't.

Anyone who is interested should google "Web Civil Supreme," search for index number 113938/2009 and then read the e-filed documents
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/m ... riosity---



Rick55 continues... So it appears that the lawsuit against Baldyga/vanguard contineus... and there are 200 documents, and the judgement could affect the future of cryonics... and we were led to believe that because Johnson settled, it was all settled-- which now appears to have been a deception of some sort. The larger "johnson case" has splintered into a multi headed hydra and continues to drain Alcor with legal fees trying to stop damage to the future of cryonics--

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November 25th, 2012, 5:46 pm #5

?... ... something is costing as much as salaries ...
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November 25th, 2012, 5:58 pm #6

http://www.alcor.org/blog/?p=2471

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False allegations of mistreatment of member remains were the centerpiece of sensational publicity sought by Mr. Johnson in 2003, and subsequently during his promotion of the book Frozen in October 2009. Yet they were just a few of the many falsehoods contained in the book Frozen and the surrounding publicity. The lawsuit against the books coauthor, Scott Baldyga, and publisher, Vanguard Press, continues in New York. Alcor is seeking money damages against Mr. Baldyga and Vanguard Press for aiding and abetting violation of court orders, ignoring valid court injunctions, and otherwise assisting in the distribution of false information about Alcor.

Alcor CEO, Max More, stated, We are very pleased that Mr. Johnson has publicly retracted his allegations about Alcor. Alcor feels vindicated from the falsehoods perpetrated by Mr. Johnson. Alcor is a professional cryopreservation facility dedicated to the well-being and privacy of its members.
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rick55... is "seeking money damages" costing Alcor an amount of money per year equal to total salaries?

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November 25th, 2012, 6:34 pm #7

Mr. Johnson appears to have retracted few of his allegations about Alcor, in his statement associated with the settlement agreement. No judge, nor jury, has ruled on the veracity of the contents of the book, and the lawsuits involving Alcor vs. Vanguard Press and Scott Baldyga continue in the New York Supreme Court. The NY court has ruled against Alcor's claims of conversion and exposure of trade secrets. [7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Johnson_(author)
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November 25th, 2012, 6:38 pm #8

http://www.alcor.org/blog/?p=2471

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False allegations of mistreatment of member remains were the centerpiece of sensational publicity sought by Mr. Johnson in 2003, and subsequently during his promotion of the book Frozen in October 2009. Yet they were just a few of the many falsehoods contained in the book Frozen and the surrounding publicity. The lawsuit against the books coauthor, Scott Baldyga, and publisher, Vanguard Press, continues in New York. Alcor is seeking money damages against Mr. Baldyga and Vanguard Press for aiding and abetting violation of court orders, ignoring valid court injunctions, and otherwise assisting in the distribution of false information about Alcor.

Alcor CEO, Max More, stated, We are very pleased that Mr. Johnson has publicly retracted his allegations about Alcor. Alcor feels vindicated from the falsehoods perpetrated by Mr. Johnson. Alcor is a professional cryopreservation facility dedicated to the well-being and privacy of its members.
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rick55... is "seeking money damages" costing Alcor an amount of money per year equal to total salaries?
did in fact occasion a lawsuit by Alcor
against the books authors and publisher.

http://amormundi.blogspot.com/2012/09/well-sue.html

the suit against his co-author and the publisher is ongoing.

The book is still very much available from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Frozen-Journey-Wo ... 003156B2C/
despite the fact that its primary author has paid for its
existence with bankruptcy.





jimf said...
http://www.wfs.org/blogs/dale-carrico/t ... mment-2930
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I'd like to know more about your "scam" libel.
Submitted by Mark Plus (not verified) on Tue, 09/04/2012 - 1:09pm.

http://amormundi.blogspot.com/2012/09/well-sue.html



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Church of the Better Resurrection
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November 25th, 2012, 7:00 pm #10

I suspect from what I have heard that this publisher and writer and author are all basically judgment-proof, i.e., too small-time to have enough money to make winning the lawsuit worthwhile. How would they pay the any potential judgment?

Why pursue these small time bums and spend big bucks doing so when the payoff is not worth it? Alcor could have instead spent that money on giving longtime older cryos a big break on dues.

But, nooooo....with typical libertarian hardheadedness, they want to preserve the 'good name' of alcor. Hey alcor: no one cares! Except a few libertarian nutters who might possibly join alcor, and maybe a few of them might actually get cryopreserved. And probably half of them will wind up in old age without enough $ to stay the course.

Typical libertarian shortsightedness.



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