*** SIHH 2012 paneristi.com exclusive - Live pictures of the PAM438 and PAM441

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*** SIHH 2012 paneristi.com exclusive - Live pictures of the PAM438 and PAM441

wilmsenm
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January 26th, 2012, 9:35 pm #1

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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January 26th, 2012, 9:48 pm #2

USA Prices for these watches release yet?
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January 26th, 2012, 9:52 pm #3

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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Beautiful watch though. I love gmts.

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January 26th, 2012, 9:53 pm #4

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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glad you got all the finger prints off that bracelet before taking these photos

I would still prefer the strap but man I just saw these babies in another light...you have a way of doing that

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January 26th, 2012, 9:56 pm #5

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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Really like that ceramic 1950 case. Although I hate the new style bracelet design, the all ceramic bracelet is kinda cool...

Wish they would do the old style bracelet in ceramic...?? Maybe?? Anyone listening? Only can hope.







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January 26th, 2012, 10:02 pm #6

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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now to start saving my pennies so i can buy this watch lol
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January 26th, 2012, 10:13 pm #7

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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January 26th, 2012, 10:25 pm #8

USA Prices for these watches release yet?
as far as I know, but here's a link to a post with prices for some of the models in Euro:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... in+EURO%29

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January 26th, 2012, 10:26 pm #9

Really like that ceramic 1950 case. Although I hate the new style bracelet design, the all ceramic bracelet is kinda cool...

Wish they would do the old style bracelet in ceramic...?? Maybe?? Anyone listening? Only can hope.







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that this new style bracelet is a much better fit for this model. Just my opinion of course.
Thanks,
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January 26th, 2012, 10:27 pm #10

glad you got all the finger prints off that bracelet before taking these photos

I would still prefer the strap but man I just saw these babies in another light...you have a way of doing that

much appreciated

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January 26th, 2012, 10:34 pm #11

that this new style bracelet is a much better fit for this model. Just my opinion of course.
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I'm just a big fan of the old bracelet & not the new

Certainly to each his own.

Cheers! AP





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January 26th, 2012, 10:43 pm #12

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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Thanks for all the awesome pics.. Is that watch made out of Ceramic? LOL
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January 26th, 2012, 11:25 pm #13

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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...but I would prefer "GMT" on the lower half of the dial and the "ceramic" removed. A nice, modern interpretation of the classic Luminor. The black works beautifully with the new-style bracelet. The 438 is a winner.

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January 27th, 2012, 12:31 am #14

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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The clasp in steel + PVD and so is the element connecting the bracelet to the case.

THis watch looks great in person, not only in the pics

Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 27th, 2012, 1:14 am #15

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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but your pics gave me a new lust, Martin.
Thanks a lot. really.

Would be better without the "ceramic" on the dial - but still very cool.

c
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Joined: January 7th, 2008, 12:10 am

January 27th, 2012, 1:24 am #16

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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that is super sexy
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January 27th, 2012, 2:41 am #17

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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"Ceramic" writing on dial means it is non-EU version...?



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January 27th, 2012, 2:49 am #18

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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January 27th, 2012, 2:54 am #19

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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From the very first press release, I was in love with the 438. A bit out of my price range, so I will have to wait and save, but it is definitely a watch I would love to acquire in the future. Your pics and review helped cement that, Martin.

Many thanks,

Eric
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January 27th, 2012, 3:39 am #20

The PAM438 is the first 44mm Luminor with ceramic black matt case and a ceramic black matt bracelet.

The PAM441 is essentially the same watch, but it comes with a strap.
The movement of the PAM438 has a very different look though. More about that below.

Panerai introduced the PAM438 with the name TUTTONERO which means "all black" if I'm not mistaken.
Both watches have the automatic in-house P.9001/B movement with the functions hours, minutes, small seconds, date, second time zone, zero reset and a power reserve indicator on the back.



A closer look at the bracelet, its matt finish looks great



1950's style case seen from the side



The Luminova is ecru



The sandwich dial has all the numbers, just as the PAM359 Luminor Marina 1950 3 days automatic that was introduced at the SIHH 2010.
I've read a couple of discussions about the fact that the word "ceramic" is printed on the dial above the six.
Can't say that it bothers me at all. I actually think that it makes the dial look nicely balanced.







I forgot to ask for confirmation but I don't think that the deployant (folding clasp) is ceramic. I assume it's PVD steel.





The lettering on the case back is gold colored on the 438. The movement is blackened too, the crystal of this version is not "smoked".
OP are now using a new process to darken the movement - the problems that occurred when they started doing this for the 317 are a thing of the past.



The movement of the 441 however looks more regular. The caseback has a smoked see-through sapphire crystal to give the movement a dark look.
It is the same style crystal that can be found on the ceramic PAM335 Luminor 1950 GMT that Panerai introduced at the SIHH in 2010.



The 441 comes with the great looking "assolutamente" strap





The following two photos show how surprisingly alike the black of the PAM360 is compared to that of the ceramic 441.
Interesting because the watches are made using completely different materials and finishing.





You can find the SIHH specifications here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... CA+-+44+MM+***

The first official OP photos of the watch from the SIHH press kit can be found here:

PAM438
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... MT+CERAMIC

PAM441
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ica-+44+MM


For your reference

The 2010 PAM359 was the first Panerai with a polished 1950's style case and a sandwich dial with all the numbers



The ceramic PAM335 (2010) was the first Panerai watch with the "smoked" case back crystal



The ceramic PAM317 (2009) has a PVD coated movement, the production process that was initially used caused many problems



Thanks for looking
Martin / paneristi.com SIHH team

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The darkened movement along with the ceramic casing really grows on me... don't know how well the ceramic models will hold up over time though.

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