Pam Bronzo bezel showing uneven surface

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Pam Bronzo bezel showing uneven surface

Dan_Wan
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February 6th, 2018, 11:27 am #1

Just wondering if anyone else who has had experience with the Bronzo notice the bezel inner edge to the sapphire crystal showing an uneven surface? I can understand patina forming on the bronze case but is this more like corrosion of some sort.

Happy to learn from anyone who has a similar encounter and experience.

Thank you.



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FLS2K
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February 6th, 2018, 4:30 pm #2

Photos? They’d prevent speculation. nt
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February 7th, 2018, 3:44 pm #4

Ouch! That doesn’t look good -nt
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February 7th, 2018, 8:03 pm #5

Just wondering if anyone else who has had experience with the Bronzo notice the bezel inner edge to the sapphire crystal showing an uneven surface? I can understand patina forming on the bronze case but is this more like corrosion of some sort.

Happy to learn from anyone who has a similar encounter and experience.

Thank you.


You can search on Bronze disease which is a chemical reaction and which eats away at bronze

Not which bronzes if any are immune. Don;t own one, so didn't get into the major parts of the write up.

On the other hand. Maybe not as I don;t know what you did with your watch

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February 7th, 2018, 10:13 pm #6

Thanks.

Watch was already in this state when I got it pre-ownewd. Didn’t do anything to it to try to alter the patina.
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February 7th, 2018, 10:40 pm #7

You can search on Bronze disease which is a chemical reaction and which eats away at bronze

Not which bronzes if any are immune. Don;t own one, so didn't get into the major parts of the write up.

On the other hand. Maybe not as I don;t know what you did with your watch

DON
How you slice it. Part of the unspoken selling points of a Bronzo is the patina that develops, which it will do more or less on its own outside of forcing it. This is clearly a bad choice of bronze, a fault in craftsmanship or something in between.
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February 8th, 2018, 12:56 am #8

Problem occurs when people let the oxidation build up on the case and it starts to attack one part of the alloy makeup.

Various types of bronze alloys, but are any resistant over time?

Maybe that's why the Panerai SLOB was PVD coated to prevent this from happening

Panerai jumped on the bronze bandwagon when others started doing it.

Some let it patina to a certain point, but have seen others who let it go a little to far and would never buy a secondhand watch after that

Main thing. OP should have returned the watch to the seller as Panerai will probably not replace the case. They never have and blamed the owners of creating the problems in the first place.

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February 8th, 2018, 12:22 pm #9

Given the advanced degradation perhaps the previous owner used a cleaning solvent on the crystal that came in contact with the bezel which accelerated the natural process.
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February 8th, 2018, 1:18 pm #10

How you slice it. Part of the unspoken selling points of a Bronzo is the patina that develops, which it will do more or less on its own outside of forcing it. This is clearly a bad choice of bronze, a fault in craftsmanship or something in between.
Thanks for your inputs.
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February 8th, 2018, 1:20 pm #11

Given the advanced degradation perhaps the previous owner used a cleaning solvent on the crystal that came in contact with the bezel which accelerated the natural process.
Thanks for yr inputs.
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February 8th, 2018, 10:23 pm #12

Problem occurs when people let the oxidation build up on the case and it starts to attack one part of the alloy makeup.

Various types of bronze alloys, but are any resistant over time?

Maybe that's why the Panerai SLOB was PVD coated to prevent this from happening

Panerai jumped on the bronze bandwagon when others started doing it.

Some let it patina to a certain point, but have seen others who let it go a little to far and would never buy a secondhand watch after that

Main thing. OP should have returned the watch to the seller as Panerai will probably not replace the case. They never have and blamed the owners of creating the problems in the first place.

DON
Panerai talks about its ties with the ocean. Good, let's make a watch out of a material that corrodes and pits after exposure to it.
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Aeromat209
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February 9th, 2018, 1:01 am #13

Thanks for your inputs.
Pardon me but this looks like just the bezel that is out of sort .
Bezel replacement should not be bad to replace.

question : Were you made aware of this before you bought it with pictures and explanation with a reduced price to cover a new bezel ?
Sometimes with the excitement of a new piece this could be overlooked .


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