P.3000 movement winding sound

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P.3000 movement winding sound

hesalitedome
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Joined: February 8th, 2017, 3:20 am

April 14th, 2017, 7:31 pm #1

I just purchased a beautiful new 673. It's my first 47mm Panerai and I'm beginning to understand the passion and enthusiasm for this brand (my only other Panerai is a 564).

I have one question and concern, however. When I wind the watch normally with thumb and forefinger, the sound and feel are smooth and quiet. If I wind more quickly with only my index finger from below, the sound is slightly harsh and raspy -- not horrible like something is broken, but just not as smooth and quiet. I don't experience this with the 564, which sounds pretty much the same no matter how its wound.

I've heard that the grittier sound could be external (crown rubbing slightly on crown guard due to upwards pressure with one finger winding) or internal (crown stem related). I've also been advised that it's better to wind with two fingers for more even pressure, though I also know a Panerai watchmaker who believes that index finger winding shouldn't be a problem.

I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced this slightly rougher sound with one finger winding. By the way, I'm pretty gentle and careful with things, but it is easier to wind faster with one finger than two.

Thanks!
John
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April 14th, 2017, 9:43 pm #2

As far as I know there are slight difference between old p3k and newer one. Even older one there are few minor mod they tweaked. If I may you may be too sensitive but should be alright. If your time accuracy is a way off, suggest to drop it to service center of Panera to check up. Since so new hardly doubt they will charge any. Great watch my friend.
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April 15th, 2017, 2:52 pm #3

I just purchased a beautiful new 673. It's my first 47mm Panerai and I'm beginning to understand the passion and enthusiasm for this brand (my only other Panerai is a 564).

I have one question and concern, however. When I wind the watch normally with thumb and forefinger, the sound and feel are smooth and quiet. If I wind more quickly with only my index finger from below, the sound is slightly harsh and raspy -- not horrible like something is broken, but just not as smooth and quiet. I don't experience this with the 564, which sounds pretty much the same no matter how its wound.

I've heard that the grittier sound could be external (crown rubbing slightly on crown guard due to upwards pressure with one finger winding) or internal (crown stem related). I've also been advised that it's better to wind with two fingers for more even pressure, though I also know a Panerai watchmaker who believes that index finger winding shouldn't be a problem.

I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced this slightly rougher sound with one finger winding. By the way, I'm pretty gentle and careful with things, but it is easier to wind faster with one finger than two.

Thanks!
John
John, with my watch it almost seems like the unusual sound comes when I try to wind it very quickly and also when the watch has been stopped. When the watch has to be wound from zero or completely stopped, I find this happens. If I wind it every day then it's less noticeable.
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hesalitedome
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April 15th, 2017, 5:47 pm #4

As far as I know there are slight difference between old p3k and newer one. Even older one there are few minor mod they tweaked. If I may you may be too sensitive but should be alright. If your time accuracy is a way off, suggest to drop it to service center of Panera to check up. Since so new hardly doubt they will charge any. Great watch my friend.
I'm sure you're right -- the watch is beautiful and, no doubt, working as it should. Not to mention that these are mechanical devices and each will have its own 'personality'. Your psychological insight is also excellent. With anything new, I'm sensitive and on the look-out for any small thing that may be less than perfect. After a few weeks, I return to a state of semi-normalcy
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hesalitedome
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April 15th, 2017, 5:53 pm #5

John, with my watch it almost seems like the unusual sound comes when I try to wind it very quickly and also when the watch has been stopped. When the watch has to be wound from zero or completely stopped, I find this happens. If I wind it every day then it's less noticeable.
The 673 is still so new that I don't have a sense of whether the noise is louder when the watch is unwound, but I'll check that. You're also right that the raspy sound is only there if I wind quickly with one finger. Very smooth and quiet otherwise. Appreciate the input!
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April 15th, 2017, 6:50 pm #6

I just purchased a beautiful new 673. It's my first 47mm Panerai and I'm beginning to understand the passion and enthusiasm for this brand (my only other Panerai is a 564).

I have one question and concern, however. When I wind the watch normally with thumb and forefinger, the sound and feel are smooth and quiet. If I wind more quickly with only my index finger from below, the sound is slightly harsh and raspy -- not horrible like something is broken, but just not as smooth and quiet. I don't experience this with the 564, which sounds pretty much the same no matter how its wound.

I've heard that the grittier sound could be external (crown rubbing slightly on crown guard due to upwards pressure with one finger winding) or internal (crown stem related). I've also been advised that it's better to wind with two fingers for more even pressure, though I also know a Panerai watchmaker who believes that index finger winding shouldn't be a problem.

I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced this slightly rougher sound with one finger winding. By the way, I'm pretty gentle and careful with things, but it is easier to wind faster with one finger than two.

Thanks!
John
Show us the beauty ! I am pretty much sure I'll be able to troubleshoot the problem by looking at the watch , hahahaa !!!
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hesalitedome
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April 16th, 2017, 3:11 am #7

Here you go Pakal:





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April 17th, 2017, 9:58 am #8

That's a beauty! (nt)
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