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giuliosax
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Joined: July 15th, 2005, 6:20 pm

October 24th, 2011, 9:33 pm #81

for that, I thank you. It's an eye opener for sure. Was I surprised by it? Yes, of course...only thing is as the history of collecting PAMs has shown.....maybe some day in the future (10/20 years) a WTS for 318 maybe something along the lines...

FS: Unique and one of a kind Brooklyn Bridge PAM 318..the only PAM EVER with its movement untouched by OP.....>>>

far fetched? Maybe but who knows rite
IMHO
they tried to do something like the 203
with the movement not decorated

but instead they did a nice engraved on the back case of the Brooklyn Bridge
that makes u wonder
that they are also the twin towers behind those colons
in gray shadows ..
Tribute to 9/11

Just my 2 cents

Best Regards Giulio

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October 25th, 2011, 2:33 am #82

Two things

1. I still buy and collect Panerai watches
2. I did not know this was correct when I posted the watch on the forum.

Sorry the watch is real and we can have a civil discussion about this or not.















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when steve jobs was alive I spent a lot less time thinking about how little You contribute to the world.
Wow, I must say I'm shocked! Because I've opened my wife's 104 previously and the movement was at least polished

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October 25th, 2011, 4:30 am #83

Two things

1. I still buy and collect Panerai watches
2. I did not know this was correct when I posted the watch on the forum.

Sorry the watch is real and we can have a civil discussion about this or not.















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when steve jobs was alive I spent a lot less time thinking about how little You contribute to the world.
Panerai has it totally wrong this time....

Someone might argue, a decorated movement doesn't make it work better and we all know Panerai uses ETA and it's a tool watch....BUT

if asethetic value doesn't count, no one should be buying PP, VC, AP, etc...Luxury watch is all about asthetic value, inside or outside. And with what Panerai is charging us, it's hardly arguable that it's not a luxury brand.
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gfriedell
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Joined: January 27th, 2005, 3:20 pm

October 25th, 2011, 12:31 pm #84



And she a girl.

Received emails from members with pictures saying watch was correct. That is when I said the watch was legit not before.

Look for what's inside before you make up your mind

Saw you downtown singing the blues It's time to face the music, I'm longer your muse


Ta



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ReTTo11
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October 25th, 2011, 6:06 pm #85

Wait I never doubted you. Maybe some people here owe you an apology.


didn't post that I'm sorry..... lol

I still like you.....



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Underskoterskan
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October 30th, 2011, 6:02 pm #86

Two things

1. I still buy and collect Panerai watches
2. I did not know this was correct when I posted the watch on the forum.

Sorry the watch is real and we can have a civil discussion about this or not.















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when steve jobs was alive I spent a lot less time thinking about how little You contribute to the world.
...than the lack of basic decoration is the fact they didn't even bother to choose the Top or Chronometré version of the movement. As you all know, ETA movements are manufactured in four different grades; standard, elaboré, top and chronometré. The most significant gap in performance is an Elaboré versus a Top, the Top is superior due to the fact that it has a Glucydur-balance among other top-of-the-shelf features. I can't tell from the pictures whether the movement used is a Standard or Elaboré, but it sure isn't a Top or Chronometré-version of the movement since the balance is nickelgilded and therefor it must be either Standard or Elaboré. That being said; guys, there's absolutely nothing that separates this movement from the movement in any of the $500 (or less) watches using the same movement. When it comes to future servicing of the watch, i don't expect Panerai to dismantle the movement in the ordinary fashion for cleaning. It would be cheaper to simply put a new movement into it and throw the old one away. The movement isn't even stamped, so no one could tell anyway. This is shocking indeed.

Decorations means nothing to performance, but it shows that the manufacturer has made an effort and is without doubts necessary in any watch in this price range, in fact i cant think of a single movement at this price that isn't decorated, solid caseback or not. Just look at the great deal of attention to detail Breitling puts into their Caliber 17 when it comes to decoration and optimizing the rate to justify the choice of ETA 2824-2, and not a single one of them are being sold with a see-through caseback. At a certain price range, you simply expect that proper attention has been given to the movement.

The fact that Panerai didn't even bother to choose the slightly more expensive but vastly superior Top-version of the movement is indeed shocking. I simply can't believe the stupidity of the folks in charge of the company, for a few bucks in cost saving they're putting their entire reputation and trust in dangerous hazard.

/Undersköterskan
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