Dr Davis (DE OE failure mentioned)

Dr Davis (DE OE failure mentioned)

Joined: June 18th, 2012, 3:41 pm

July 4th, 2012, 12:43 pm #1

Hi All,

So my 42nd birthday is looming (July 10) and that has me down already. Then yesterday Dr Davis called to say there is one more protocol (ultra low dose (75 menopur) we can try but after that.... (Im simultaneously cycling natural with Dr Zhang this month because Cornell's lab is closed) Dr Davis gave me the DE speech and basically said if this doesn't work he's out of ideas. Im starting to get to the point where I feel like there is no hope of conceiving with my OE. Im really down. Ive started drinking coffee, wine etc... and not just a little bit. It seems everyone has a story of a friend who got pregnant at 40- something. But no one ever talks about the rest of us who didn't' Im feeling so hopeless and such a loss of not having my own genetic child. Every woman i see in the street between 20-35 I get angry at because she is young enough to have her own child. It seems unfair that I didn't find my partner and my own financial stability until later on...needless to say Im feeling very sorry for myself. I know this is unproductive... but it SUCKS!

Anyway Im rambling, just sharing some feelings...
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ChickenLittle
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July 4th, 2012, 4:57 pm #2

...about how you feel. We all feel ripped off, cheated, resentful, despondent, hopeless, etc etc, sometimes. Sometimes for long times, actually. It's nice that he's both giving you one more alternative to try along with his honest prognosis. It equips you with a choice to can weigh against other options. There are successes at 42, so if you want to act fast and do that cycle with Dr D, that may feel like a good option.

Keep breathing, keep posting...

Hugs, Chix
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BabyDance
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July 4th, 2012, 5:04 pm #3

Hi All,

So my 42nd birthday is looming (July 10) and that has me down already. Then yesterday Dr Davis called to say there is one more protocol (ultra low dose (75 menopur) we can try but after that.... (Im simultaneously cycling natural with Dr Zhang this month because Cornell's lab is closed) Dr Davis gave me the DE speech and basically said if this doesn't work he's out of ideas. Im starting to get to the point where I feel like there is no hope of conceiving with my OE. Im really down. Ive started drinking coffee, wine etc... and not just a little bit. It seems everyone has a story of a friend who got pregnant at 40- something. But no one ever talks about the rest of us who didn't' Im feeling so hopeless and such a loss of not having my own genetic child. Every woman i see in the street between 20-35 I get angry at because she is young enough to have her own child. It seems unfair that I didn't find my partner and my own financial stability until later on...needless to say Im feeling very sorry for myself. I know this is unproductive... but it SUCKS!

Anyway Im rambling, just sharing some feelings...
I know for a fact Dr. Davis did this protocol on a 42 year old who got pregnant with twins and got 3 eggs from it. I begged Dr Spandorfer to do this protocol on me and he agreed , but insisted on estrogen priming with it. It was the worst cycle I ever had. I think you should try it, but DO NOT do it with EPP. I don't think Davis will request it anyway. I was 40 when I did it, and probably would have a child if he did it correctly. The doctors there do not work together at all. It stinks. Do it, and I pray it works for you. I too, am 42 soon and know it's the end of the road for me, so I really understand how you feel. I feel the same way. So sorry. But, you will heal to a certain degree. You will. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
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K
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July 4th, 2012, 7:20 pm #4

Hi All,

So my 42nd birthday is looming (July 10) and that has me down already. Then yesterday Dr Davis called to say there is one more protocol (ultra low dose (75 menopur) we can try but after that.... (Im simultaneously cycling natural with Dr Zhang this month because Cornell's lab is closed) Dr Davis gave me the DE speech and basically said if this doesn't work he's out of ideas. Im starting to get to the point where I feel like there is no hope of conceiving with my OE. Im really down. Ive started drinking coffee, wine etc... and not just a little bit. It seems everyone has a story of a friend who got pregnant at 40- something. But no one ever talks about the rest of us who didn't' Im feeling so hopeless and such a loss of not having my own genetic child. Every woman i see in the street between 20-35 I get angry at because she is young enough to have her own child. It seems unfair that I didn't find my partner and my own financial stability until later on...needless to say Im feeling very sorry for myself. I know this is unproductive... but it SUCKS!

Anyway Im rambling, just sharing some feelings...
if it weren't for the feminist agenda that I bought into when I was younger, I might have been more serious about marrying young & starting a family...I really don't know. I had two chances to get married when I was younger, I could kick myself now for not taking those chances.
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Joined: June 18th, 2012, 3:41 pm

July 4th, 2012, 9:15 pm #5

I know for a fact Dr. Davis did this protocol on a 42 year old who got pregnant with twins and got 3 eggs from it. I begged Dr Spandorfer to do this protocol on me and he agreed , but insisted on estrogen priming with it. It was the worst cycle I ever had. I think you should try it, but DO NOT do it with EPP. I don't think Davis will request it anyway. I was 40 when I did it, and probably would have a child if he did it correctly. The doctors there do not work together at all. It stinks. Do it, and I pray it works for you. I too, am 42 soon and know it's the end of the road for me, so I really understand how you feel. I feel the same way. So sorry. But, you will heal to a certain degree. You will. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
Babydance,

He does want to do estrogen priming...should I just not do it?
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BabyDance
BabyDance

July 4th, 2012, 9:37 pm #6

Have you done it before? What's your FSH and Amh? Usually poor responders don't do well on it. Ask him about the 42 year old physician that was on this protocol and had twins. I was under the impression she did not EPP. If you are a really poor responder, it can shut you down. This is a tough call. I had a very bad feeling about it, but Dr. S didn't care and I was right. If you've done it before, and you responded fine, I'd do it. If you haven't, and you really only get 2-3 follies with over 20 FSH, I'd say skip it.
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Jennifer
Jennifer

July 4th, 2012, 10:59 pm #7

I know for a fact Dr. Davis did this protocol on a 42 year old who got pregnant with twins and got 3 eggs from it. I begged Dr Spandorfer to do this protocol on me and he agreed , but insisted on estrogen priming with it. It was the worst cycle I ever had. I think you should try it, but DO NOT do it with EPP. I don't think Davis will request it anyway. I was 40 when I did it, and probably would have a child if he did it correctly. The doctors there do not work together at all. It stinks. Do it, and I pray it works for you. I too, am 42 soon and know it's the end of the road for me, so I really understand how you feel. I feel the same way. So sorry. But, you will heal to a certain degree. You will. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
Babydance,

He does want to do estrogen priming...should I just not do it?
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Jennifer
Jennifer

July 4th, 2012, 11:09 pm #8

Have you done it before? What's your FSH and Amh? Usually poor responders don't do well on it. Ask him about the 42 year old physician that was on this protocol and had twins. I was under the impression she did not EPP. If you are a really poor responder, it can shut you down. This is a tough call. I had a very bad feeling about it, but Dr. S didn't care and I was right. If you've done it before, and you responded fine, I'd do it. If you haven't, and you really only get 2-3 follies with over 20 FSH, I'd say skip it.
HMM well my FSH was highest 23 amh less than >16... Ive done it before the first time I had a great cycle, the 3 x after that nothing.
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BabyDance
BabyDance

July 5th, 2012, 12:18 am #9

He will probably insist you do it, but I would try not to. Ask him about the physician with twins, if she did it. I was told she didn't.
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Flavia
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July 5th, 2012, 12:43 pm #10

if it weren't for the feminist agenda that I bought into when I was younger, I might have been more serious about marrying young & starting a family...I really don't know. I had two chances to get married when I was younger, I could kick myself now for not taking those chances.
Yes,me too! It was considered laughable if ypu talked about wanting marriage or children. Now I wonder why that was and why I even cared what people thought.
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