Redacted, The Controversial Film About The War

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Redacted, The Controversial Film About The War

stopsnitchin
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Nov 13 2007, 03:29 PM #1

According to Bil Oreilly this film is hurting us in the war on terror, as is Mark Cuban

I Havent watched it yet, but theres the info.
Redacted.LiMiTED.REPACK.DVDSCR.XViD-ALLiANCE

ALLiANCE brings us a new dvdscreener of a limited war movie Redacted. Filmed by Brian De Palma, the story follows American soldiers in Iraq with focus on media disinformating about the real situation in the area. I guess this will be quite a controversary film. The image contains “property of” warning.

Focusing on a squad of American soldiers in Samarra, the film employs a number of conflicting styles and alternative points of view, juxtaposing the experiences of the soldiers running a checkpoint with those of the media sent to cover events, and the local Iraqis who find themselves caught in the middle of a civil war. Each group is affected by the conflict in different ways, and the film interprets their experiences through different filters.
It currently all over torrents etc. I wont post a link, but it wont be hard to find..

For those who watch, post your thoughts




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Nov 13 2007, 03:57 PM #2

Perhaps the MPAA started the leak to catch down loaders.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison
"Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt?" -- last words of Socrates, recorded by Plato (Phaedo 118a, tr. B. Jowett)
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Nov 13 2007, 04:25 PM #3

mynameis @ Nov 13 2007, 03:57 PM wrote: Perhaps the MPAA started the leak to catch down loaders.
its a SCENE release, its legit...




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Nov 13 2007, 04:36 PM #4

Will be watching soon. Looks like it could be an amazing movie.
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Nov 13 2007, 04:47 PM #5

Yep O'reilly is steaming about this one, claims he's going to be protesting the film outside movie theatres :)

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Chang ... opic=19182
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Nov 13 2007, 04:52 PM #6

Does this mean stick it to Mark Cuban over the LC:FC deal division?
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison
"Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt?" -- last words of Socrates, recorded by Plato (Phaedo 118a, tr. B. Jowett)
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Nov 13 2007, 05:07 PM #7

O'Really wouldn't dare -- he has no balls ...
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Nov 13 2007, 05:12 PM #8

I think O'Reilly is genuinly deluded, he DEFINATLY has a personality disorder, he's a meglomaniac, he actually thinks his "France boycott" cause the French econemy harm, he also thinks he weilds enough power to get the FBI to follow around people like Jim Fetzer and Kevin Barrett, these are classicv examples of someone with meglomania.
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Nov 14 2007, 05:45 AM #9

Has anyone seen this movie? Holy god this is a master piece!

Essentially, its wrapped around a rape incident in Iraq. But shows a lot of nice detail of soldiers in the war.

If I were to recommend a movie to anyone this would be it. If your interested, or oppose the Iraq war, this is your movie.

Search http://thepiratebay.org for this movie 'redacted'
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Nov 14 2007, 05:55 AM #10

Mark Cuban Gives Bill O'Reilly An Offer He'll Probably Refuse
Reported by Deborah - Tue 9:51 PM

Tonight on Countdown, Keith Olbermann sent a message to Bill O'Reilly from Mark Cuban responding to Bill-O's most recent attacks. Cuban offered O'Reilly a chance to discuss Redacted face to face on Countdown with Keith Olbermann moderating the discussion. Will Bill O'Reilly accept the offer or even mention it forcing him to say the name of he who can't be mentioned. We shall see. 11/13/07

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/11/13/mar ... refuse.php
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison
"Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt?" -- last words of Socrates, recorded by Plato (Phaedo 118a, tr. B. Jowett)
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Nov 14 2007, 06:04 AM #11

I'm sorry but who is Mark Cuban?
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Nov 14 2007, 06:08 AM #12

ihatecreditors @ Nov 14 2007, 06:04 AM wrote: I'm sorry but who is Mark Cuban?
A movie producer, he produced the movie in this thread, and dropped LC:FC.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison
"Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt?" -- last words of Socrates, recorded by Plato (Phaedo 118a, tr. B. Jowett)
<A href="http://www.aclu.org/clock"><IMG src="http://www.aclu.org/images/buttons/surv ... iliate.gif" border=0></A>
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... ID=6711696
Use www.Scroogle.org more - http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/usatoday.html
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Nov 14 2007, 09:54 AM #13

thanks for posting the link, will def watch.
If it's the incident I think it is, the 14 year old rape victim's name was
Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi (see my footnotes)

There are, of course, other reports circulating of other rapes in Iraq:, which our cheerleader-turned combat dodger raped (by my definition, "forcibly and violently assaulted, coercing the victim into a traumatic theft of their psyche, spirit and boundaries, for sexual or power driven desires of the attacker"), funded by your tax dollars
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/n ... ape22.html
separately, (Green/Mahmoudiya):
"Allegations in the case are that a US soldier killed the woman's parents and young sister; he and another soldier raped the woman; then he shot her in the head and set her body on fire. ... Although the incident occurred in March, military officials learned only recently that it might have been carried out by a group of Americans, rather than the insurgents who initially were blamed.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/ ... i/62/20927

our lovely detention ctrs are in on this as well:
"an Iraqi boy just fifteen years old says his captors at an American facility raped him."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le6820.htm

and, US female military service personnel have been regular victims of rape and assault - by US male military service personnel, largely ignored, untreated &/or punished "in the field" for reporting the abuse
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4197223

thanks for the post, again. these things, all the shit going on we never hear about, should be in our faces every day.
Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi: Abeer means "fragrance of flowers." She was 14 years old when she was stalked, gang raped, doused with kerosene and burned alive by US troops outside of Baghdad, March 12, 2006. http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/40481/
Asked why a nuclear power such as North Korea was being treated differently from Iraq, where hardly any weapons of mass destruction had been found, deputy defence secretary Wolfowitz said (June 2003), "Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil."
"...the idea of going into Baghdad, for example, or trying to topple the (Hussein)regime wasn't anything I was enthusiastic about. I felt there was a real danger here that you would get bogged down in a long drawn-out conflict, that this was a dangerous, difficult part of the world. I think if we had done that we would have been bogged down there for a very long period of time with the real possibility we might not have succeeded." Sec. of Defense Dick Cheney, 1991
Bush planned Iraqi invasion before 9/11: Treas Secretary Paul O'Neill writes in his book that a National Security Council meeting "..was all about finding a way to (invade Iraq). That was the tone of it. The president kept saying 'Go find me a way to do this'". http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/
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Nov 14 2007, 11:17 PM #14

This is simply amazing! I can actually, for the first time, sympathize somewhat with Bill O. :o This is going to cause quite a stir!

It's so well done you may wonder if it's actual footage for some considerable part of the film. It isn't, and the fact that it isn't makes me wonder how the hell they pulled it off?

Also, this is not for the faint of heart...
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Nov 16 2007, 01:35 PM #15

Sorry but I disagree a little with you Tim. I just watched it, and yer a very powerful story but I thought it was sort of over-stylized if you know what I mean, which detracted a bit from the intended anti-war message IMO. I thought the acting was average at best.

The last segment "Collateral Damage" was the most gut wrenching part of the movie. Truly horrific. :(
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Nov 16 2007, 02:48 PM #16

I've watched the first half hour, pretty good so far. Hope to make time for the rest this weekend.

It seems pretty true to life - does anyone know of any soldiers' opinions of it?
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