Are Religions Based On Death Cults?

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Are Religions Based On Death Cults?

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Apr 4 2007, 11:32 PM #1

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Just wondering what everyone thinks.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison
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Apr 29 2007, 11:03 AM #2

Are we including Bhuddism (millions of adherents worldwide), Hindu, Shinto,and the multitudinous "other", i.e.; Wicca, Pantheism, The Mennonites/Amish, Mormons, and the Sikhs? :)
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.
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YOUR DISBELIEF DOES NOT CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE REALITY

WE ARE THE CANARIES IN THE AMERICAN COAL MINE/POLITICAL SYSTEM. IGNORE US AT YOUR PERIL.
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May 1 2007, 02:55 AM #3

Are we including Bhuddism (millions of adherents worldwide), Hindu, Shinto,and the multitudinous "other", i.e.; Wicca, Pantheism, The Mennonites/Amish, Mormons, and the Sikhs? smile.gif
If they have some living god who dies and is resurrected as something else for an afterlife, I would say that defines a religious death cult.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." -- James Madison
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May 1 2007, 01:59 PM #4

I think its pointless

Not like anyone knows wtf is out there...we r just lil humans being herded to who nos where
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May 1 2007, 06:59 PM #5

Exactly. You can believe whatever you want to believe about whats out there but I personally believe that there is a God.


"May I remind you the troops want us to let them win!" - John McCain
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May 3 2007, 04:23 PM #6

Most religions are based on how you live your life. Many teach that to get to heaven when you die you must live a good life. Some teach that you must kill others to get to heaven. Some are silent about death. If you mean if you believe in the after life as a "death cult", that is a strange way to refer to a mainstream religion : no. If your referring to the ones that need to kill infidels to get to heaven : yes.
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May 4 2007, 09:13 PM #7

Being a chronic pessimist, I'm inclined to say that religion is born out of fear and a subsequent natural human desire to control/predict/know, all in an effort to create some sort of "safety" in a harsh, confusing world. Beyond that, I'm not so sure...so the death cult stuff is just another facet of it, it just happens to be at the other end of the spectrum.

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May 4 2007, 10:00 PM #8

Paddy @ May 4 2007, 04:13 PM wrote:Being a chronic pessimist, I'm inclined to say that religion is born out of fear and a subsequent natural human desire to control/predict/know, all in an effort to create some sort of "safety" in a harsh, confusing world.&nbsp;
There's the famous line "Greed is good". Fear is good too, see this PBS documentary on How Art Made the World. In the same documentary, or another one, parallels were made with the symbolism in ancient religions to newer ones. However this covers how the Aztec's used fear to control the populace.

So what is the connection to 11 Sept? Oh, never mind..
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May 6 2007, 01:47 AM #10

NO, THEY'RE BASED ON DRAGONS "BELIEF IN DRAGONS"

ALL RELIGIONS HAVE ONLY ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR -- DRAGONS

THEIR PRESENCE IS IN EVERY CULTURAL RELIGIOUS BASE
SOME FEAR THEM = SOME RESPECT THEM = SOME WORSHIP THEM

SOME OF THE WORLD'S RELIGIONS THINK THE DRAGON IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE....ALL DRAGONS ARE PART OF RELIGION

GO TO ANY ART- BASED RELIGIOUS RECORD, AND YOU WILL FIND A " DRAGON "

A DRAGON-LIKE FETUS WAS RECENTLY FOUND IN LONDON PICKLED IN A JAR
HEADLINED IN THE LONDON MEDIA, THUS REOPENS HISTORY OF DRAGON LORE

yO phoenixrises>U need to do your research before making uneducated remarks. Why attack mormonism ? They are just do-gooder pilgrim types. Try living with them for a weekend....you would swear you were in the movie "PLEASANTVILLE and walk away reeking of american apple pie


IF ALL THE RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD COULD LEARN HOW TO BE NICE TO THEIR

" DRAGONS "AND SHARE THEM, THERE WOULD BE PEACE FOR ALL MANKIND....


MICHEAL THE ARCHANGEL BATTLES LUCIFER A DRAGON


SAINT MICHAEL SLAYS DRAGON-SPAIN


ST.MARGARET & ST.CATHERINE WITH DRAGON-NETHERLANDS


PROPHET MOHAMMED TRANQUILIZES DRAGON-TURKEY


SAINT GEORGE SLAYS THE DRAGON-ENGLAND


DRAGON TRANSFERES POWER TO BEAST-FRANCE


THOR STRIKES THE BEAST OF THE WORLD-NORSELAND


RUSTAM SLAYING THE DRAGON-PERSIA


CHRIST THE PANTHER AND DRAGON- ENGLAND


MARDUK IN PURSUIT OF TIAMAT-MESOPOTAMIA


LUCIFER OF THE OLD TESTAMENT


RINJIN TEMPTING THE MONKEY- CHINA


SACRED DRAGON-MALAYSIA


SACRED COBRA GODDESS- EGYPT


LONG WANG DRAGON-CHINA


EIGHT PATHS OF BUDDHA ON DRAGON-JAPAN


NAGA IS ELEPHANTS TRUNK-THAILAND


JAPANESE DRAGON DEITY RYU-JAPAN


DRAGON NAGA PROTECTS BUDDHA-INDIA
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May 7 2007, 01:42 AM #12

FROM ONE SARCASTIC INDIVIDUAL TO ANOTHER YOUR PERSONAL OPINION OF ME IS A GOOD LAUGH, ONLY SUGGESTING THAT THE SAME MINDSET WHICH GAVE BIRTH TO DRAGONLORE, GAVE BIRTH TO RELIGION, THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME, EVIDENCE THAT DRAGONLORE AND RELIGION HAVE SAME ROOTS.

DUE TO RAPID EXTICTION OF MANY SPECIES FROM OVERHUNTING, WE HAVE
FEW LIVING EXAMPLES OF WHAT WERE CONSIDERED DRAGONS OF THEIR TIME. LARGE WATER LIZARDS "CROCKS" WERE NO DOUBT PREVALENT IN THEIR DAY AMONG OTHER LARGE LAND LIZARDS OF THE TIME. THEY HAD TO EXPLAIN AWAY ANY UNCOVERED DINOSAUR BONES,

JUST AS THEY HAD TO EXPLAIN AWAY MISSING PERSONS BY PREDATORS, AND THE REASON WHY POLITICAL FOES MET A SIMILAR FATE WITHOUT LOOSING CONTROL OF THE MASSES, SO THEY BLAME IT ON THE DRAGON " GOD ".

IN MANY CULTURES IT ONLY MADE SENSE TO WORSHIP WHAT YOU FEAR AND REASON THAT THIS CREATURE IS THERE TO PROTECT YOU, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ENEMY IS DEFEATED OR CHASED AWAY BY THAT SAME CREATURE.

FOUL WEATHER, EARTHQUAKES ARE OTHER EVENTS EXPLAINED AWAY BY DRAGONS. ANYONE WHO COULD SLAY A BIG LIZARD WAS SUDDENLY ELEVATED
IN PROMINENCE, EVEN SAINTED. ANYONE WHO COULD SUBDUE A BIG LIZARD
OR MAKE A PET OUT OF ONE, WAS SAID TO HAVE GREAT POWERS........

FAMOUS ALLIGATOR WRESTLERS OF OUR DAY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSHIPED IN ANCIENT TIMES AS FEARLESS LEADERS AND EVEN DIETY

POLITICAL LEADERS HAD TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION WHY THEY SHOULD BE
WORSHIPED AS IMMORTAL, AS DESCENDANTS OF DIETY TO STAY IN POWER
KINGS AND QUEENS, OTHER WORLD LEADERS STILL CLING TO THIS PREMISE
TO STAY IN POWER.

CLEOPATRA CLAIMED TO BE THE DAUGHTER OF ISIS, TO THIS DAY, JAPANESE PEOPLE BELIEVE THEIR EMPEROR'S ANCESTRY GOES BACK TO THE DRAGON RYU, WHICH HAD THE POWER TO APPEAR IN HUMAN FORM

ROYALS MAINTAIN THEY ARE SEPARATE FROM THE MASSES BY CLAIMING LINEAGE THAT HAS A HOLIER- THAN -THOU ORIGIN, SANCTIFIED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.


PATHETIC BUSH HAS COMPARED HIMSELF TO GEORGE WASHINGTON AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN. WHAT'S SCAREY IS THAT HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES IT
HIMSELF. GEN. PATTON AND GEN. SANTA ANA BELIEVED THEY WERE REINCARNATED OF NAPOLEON. HITLER HAD A STRANGLE-HOLD ON THE MASSES, COMPARED
HIMSELF TO GOD, AND HE WAS INSANE....

LIKE JOHN LENNON SAID, " IMAGINE NO RELIGION" AND THEIR STRANGLE-HOLD ON THE MASSES VANISHES WITH THE WIND....

RELIGIOUS AL QAEDA LEADERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LAUNCH ATTACKS ON
THIS COUNTRY IF NOT FOR CONTROL OF THE MASSES, USING AUTHORITY BY
VIRTUE OF RELIGION

BUSHDADDY AND BUSH-JR WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RAIN DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON CITIES ABROAD WITHOUT SUPPORT OF FOLLOWERS LIKE
THE MILITARY AND RELIGIOUS SUPER-CONSERVATIVE. IF NOT FOR MEDIA
BLACKOUT, THE SUPER-CONSERVATIVE VOTERS WOULD SEE THE CARNAGE AND RISE UP TO PUT A STOP TO IT, LIKE WE DID IN VIETNAM

WHEN BRITIANS CRY OUT "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" THEY REALLY MEAN IT. THEY
ARE CONVINCED THAT HER ROLE IN GOVERNMENT IS ENDOWED BY A HIGHER
POWER. NO DOUBT THE QUEEN THINKS SHE HAS THE SAME EFFECT ON US, WHICH IS WHY SHE IS HERE, TO SUPPORT BUSH WITH HER ROYALNESS, ATTEMPING TO LEND HIM CREDIBILITY AS A LEADER WITH HER PRESENCE

TRIED TO LOOK UP MIDDLE EAST DRAGONS, LEBANESE DRAGONS FOR GOOD
PICTORAL REPRESENTATION OF FOLKLORE AND FOUND INSTEAD, MILITARY
DOD FEATURING THE "DRAGON HELICOPTER" AND ITS EFFECTIVENESS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST. I GUESS THAT MAKES US THE DRAGON NOW

THERE HAVE BEEN WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MAN
BETTER TO LET THEM FIGHT AMONG THEMSELVES THAN MAKE ENEMIES OF THEM
BY INTERFERRING WHERE WE DO NOT BELONG. ONE THING TO PUT OUT OIL WELL
FIRES, ANOTHER TO BOMB CITIES LOOKING FOR A SMALL TERRORIST CELL

TRYING TO SUGGEST HERE THAT WE ARE ACTING LIKE THE SAME FRIGHTENED PRIMITIVE CULTURE, BY ALLOWING BUSH'S RULE OVER US TO CONTINUE, KNOWING HE IS AN IDIOT....TIME TO IMPEACH, BEFORE WORLD WAR III
THROWS US BACK TO THE MIDDLE AGES
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May 7 2007, 04:45 PM #14

THE OTHER COMMON DENOMINATOR : MARTYRED SOLDIERS & POLITICIANS
MANY RELIGIOUS MARTYRS HAD A HUGE FOLLOWING, TODAY THIS FOLLOWING
IS CALLED " THE WAR EFFORT "

SAINT JOAN D'ARC
USED TO SELL WAR BONDS
One of five children born to Jacques d'Arc and Isabelle Romee. Shepherdess. Mystic. From age 13 she received visions from Saint Margaret of Antioch, Saint Catherine of Alexandria, and Michael the Archangel.

In the early 15th century, England, in alliance with Burgundy, controlled most of what is modern France. In May 1428 Joan's visions told her to find the true king of France and help him reclaim his throne. She resisted for more than three years, but finally went to Charles VII in Chinon and told him of her visions. Carrying a banner that read "Jesus, Mary", she led troops from one battle to another. She was severely wounded, but her victories from 23 February 1429 to 23 May 1430 brought Charles VII to the throne. Captured by the Burgundians during the defence of Compiegne, she was sold to the English for 10 thousand francs. She was put on trial by an ecclesiastical court conducted by Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais, a supporter of England, and was excuted as a heretic. In 1456 her case was re-tried, and Joan was acquitted (23 years too late).

SAINT CATHERINE OF ALEXANDRIA
Legend states that Catherine was the daughter of Constus, governor of Alexandria in Egypt. She is said to have received a "most splendid education." She declared to her parents that she would only enter into marriage with someone who surpassed her in reputation, wealth, beauty and wisdom. Catherine's mother was secretly a Christian, and sent her to a hermit who told her of a youth who surpassed her in everything, such that "His beauty was more radiant than the shining of the sun, His wisdom governed all creation, His riches were spread throughout all the world."

Having prayed and received a vision that urged her baptism, she became a Christian and was transported to heaven in vision and betrothed to Christ by the Virgin Mary (this ancient theme of a mystical marriage to a deity is familiar in the ecstatic mythology of the eastern Mediterranean and Anatolia).

Catherine's legend goes on to relate how she is said to have visited the current Roman Emperor (who could have been Maximian, Maximinus II, or Maxentius) and to have attempted to convince him of the error of his ways in persecuting Christians. Her legend states that Catherine succeeded in converting his wife, the Empress, and also many pagan wise men sent to dispute with her by the Emperor, all of whom were subsequently martyred. The Emperor ordered Catherine into prison, and when the people who visited her converted, she was condemned to death on the breaking wheel (an instrument of torture). The wheel itself broke when she touched it, so she was beheaded.

SAINT MARGARET OF ANTIOCH
Aprocryphal virgin and martyr. Her father was a pagan priest in Pisidian Antioch, Asia Minor (modern Turkey). Her mother died when Margaret was an infant, and the child was raised by a Christian woman. Her father disowned her, her nurse adopted her, and Margaret converted, consecrated herself and her virginity to God.

A Roman prefect saw the beautiful young woman tending sheep, and tried to get her into his bed. When she refused, he denounced her as a Christian, and she was brought to trial. When she refused to sacrifice to the pagan gods, the authorities tried to burn her, then boil her in a large cauldron; each time her prayers kept her unharmed. She was finally martyred by beheading.

Part of her story involves her meeting the devil in the form of a dragon, being swallowed by the dragon, and then escaping safely when the cross she carried irritated the dragon's innards.

SAINT GEORGE OF CAPPADOCIA
George was born to a Christian family during the late 3rd century. His father was from Cappadocia and served as an officer of the Roman army. His mother was from Lydda, Iudaea (now Lod, Israel). She returned to her native city as a widow along with her young son, where she provided him with an education.

The youth followed his father's example by joining the army soon after coming of age. He proved to be a good soldier and consequently rose through the military ranks of the time. By his late twenties he had gained the title of Tribunus (Tribune) and then Comes (Count), at which time George was stationed in Nicomedia as a member of the personal guard attached to Roman Emperor Diocletian.

The episode of St George and the Dragon was Eastern in origin,[3] brought back with the Crusaders and retold with the courtly appurtenances belonging to the genre of Romance (Loomis; Whatley). The earliest known depiction of the mytheme is from early eleventh-century Cappadocia (Whately), (in the iconography of the Eastern Orthodox Church, George had been depicted as a soldier since at least the seventh century); the earliest known surviving narrative text is an eleventh-century Georgian text (Whatley).

In the fully-developed Western version, a dragon makes its nest at the spring that provides water for the city of Cyrene in Libya or the city of Lydda, depending on the source. Consequently, the citizens have to dislodge the dragon from its nest for a time, in order to collect water. To do so, each day they offer the dragon a human sacrifice. The victim is chosen by drawing lots. One day, this happened to be the princess. The monarch begs for her life with no result. She is offered to the dragon, but there appears the saint on his travels. He faces the dragon, slays it and rescues the princess. The grateful citizens abandon their ancestral paganism and convert to Christianity.

According to the hagiography, in 303 Diocletian issued an edict authorizing the systematic persecution of Christians across the Empire. The emperor Galerius was supposedly responsible for this decision and would continue the persecution during his own reign (305–311). George was ordered to take part in the persecution but instead confessed to being a Christian himself and criticized the imperial decision. An enraged Diocletian ordered the torture of this apparent traitor, and his execution.

After various tortures, beginning with being lacerated on a wheel of swords, George was executed by decapitation before Nicomedia's defensive wall on April 23, 303. The witness of his suffering convinced Empress Alexandra and Athanasius, a pagan priest, to become Christians as well, and so they joined George in martyrdom. His body was returned to Lydda for burial, where Christians soon came to honour him as a martyr.

Christian hagiography Saint George - The Saint who killed the Dragon (ca. 275-281–April 23, 303) was a soldier of the Roman Empire, from Anatolia, now modern day Turkey, who was venerated as a Christian martyr. Saint George is one of the most venerated saints in the Eastern Orthodox Church and Oriental Orthodox Churches. Immortalised in the tale of George and the Dragon, he is the patron saint of Canada, Catalonia, England, Ethiopia, Georgia, Greece, Montenegro, Portugal, Serbia, the cities of Istanbul, Ljubljana and Moscow.
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May 7 2007, 07:04 PM #15

ULTILIZING FAME OF ANOTHER LEADS ENTIRE ARMIES TO POLITICAL VICTORY
LEGEND OF PERSONNA LENDS POLITICAL AND MILITARY VICTORY AFTER DEATH

SAINT JAMES OF ZEBEDEE-IN SPAIN
"SANTIAGO MATAMOROS"
Saint James, son of Zebedee (d. AD 44) was one of the disciples of Jesus. He was the son of Zebedee and Salome and brother of John the Evangelist. He is called Saint James the Greater to distinguish him from the other apostle named James (James, son of Alphaeus). James is described as one of the first disciples to join Jesus. The Synoptic Gospels state that James and John were with their father by the seashore when Jesus called them to begin traveling (Mt.4:21-22, Mk.1:19-20). According to Mark, James and John were called Boanerges, or the "Sons of Thunder" (3:17). Acts of the Apostles 12:1-2 records that King Herod had James executed by sword (Ac.12:1-2).

According to ancient local tradition, on 2 January of the year AD 40, the Virgin Mary appeared to James on the bank of the Ebro River at Caesaraugusta, while he was preaching the Gospel in Spain. She supposedly appeared upon a pillar, Nuestra Señora del Pilar, and that pillar is conserved and venerated within the present Basilica of Our Lady of the Pillar, in Zaragoza, Spain. Following that apparition, St James returned to Judea, where he was beheaded by King Herod Agrippa I in the year 44.

The translation of his relics from Judea to Galicia in the northwest of Iberia was effected, in legend, by a series of miraculous happenings: decapitated in Jerusalem with a sword by Herod Agrippa himself, his body was taken up by angels, and sailed in a rudderless, unattended boat to Iria Flavia in Spain, where a massive rock closed around his relics, which were later removed to Compostela. The 12th-century Historia Compostellana commissioned by bishop Diego Gelmírez provides a summary of the legend of St James as it was believed at Compostela. Two propositions are central to it: first, that St James preached the gospel in Spain as well as in the Holy Land; second, that after his martyrdom at the hands of Herod Agrippa I his disciples carried his body by sea to Spain, where they landed at Padrón on the coast of Galicia, and took it inland for burial at Santiago de Compostela.

SANTIAGO MATAMOROS: An even later tradition states that he miraculously appeared to fight for the Christian army during the battle of Clavijo during the Reconquista, and was henceforth called Matamoros (Moor-slayer). Santiago y cierra España ("St James and strike for Spain") has been the traditional battle cry of Spanish armies.

St James the Moorslayer, one of the most valiant saints and knights the world ever had … has been given by God to Spain for its patron and protection.
— Cervantes, Don Quixote.
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May 7 2007, 08:21 PM #16

ONLY SUGGESTING THAT THE SAME MINDSET WHICH GAVE BIRTH TO DRAGONLORE, GAVE BIRTH TO RELIGION, THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME, EVIDENCE THAT DRAGONLORE AND RELIGION HAVE SAME ROOTS.

Good pics, that's why the comment, in spite of your ALL CAPS SHOUTING (see more below).

What is the dragon based on? One wonders whether deeply embedded in our genetic material, there is some memory of dragons (dinosaurs?), just as certain animals instinctively fear the eagles, etc. The Welsh flag has a dragon, note it is distinguished from other nations in that the Welsh dragon has one foot in the air.

However, I would no more think to make an all encompassing statement as "religion is based on dragons" as I would to say "religion is based on trees". There is a humorous story of a monk, sent to the Frisian islands to tame the natives, bring them under the fold. He sees they are worshiping a giant, beautiful oak tree. Believing them to worship a false good, he aims to set them straight, and taking out an ax, proceeds to chop the tree down. The frisian's are not pleased, and he meets the same fate St. Kilian and two others meet in Wurzburg at another time, in different circumstances.

I will say though, the dragon is a more fearsome symbol than a tree, that is certain.
FROM ONE SARCASTIC INDIVIDUAL TO ANOTHER YOUR PERSONAL OPINION OF ME IS A GOOD LAUGH,
One thing you should know, is that in the land of the internet, protocol should be followed. Using all caps (1) is considered to be shouting (2) relegates your post to mere rantings.

Consider taking the time to write a reasoned post, using proper case, and your point will carry more weight. Just an FYI.
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May 7 2007, 09:28 PM #17

MAYBE THE WELSH DRAGON WAS MARKING HIS TERRITORY
(you will see my point in a minute) there's a moral to every story...

BIG LIZARDS were real in those days. average height of humans less than 4-5ft
much smaller than present day, so if you were a midget, a GIANT crocodile or SERPENT in your face could easily be associated with dragonlore, that is what launched Saint George and others to fame with the masses, defeating a crocodile at the watering hole

religion is too touchy a subject to go on. here it is 2007 and we have not progressed that much with our institutions. still at WAR, still clinging to LORE

I think we are all ranting over the insanity of the times, wondering what it will
take to cure the ills of this country. Popular belief at one time was that religion was the cure. Mixed with politics, now may be the ILL instead of the CURE

We need some "graphic pictures " from INDEPENDENT media of the bloodletting and mutilation of war to shake these people up. It only took one photo of a small girl in Vietnam,

the image of this girl with her clothes burned off by NAPALM running down the road screaming--woke everybody up, killed the draft. stopped the slaughter for a while, anyway.

Nothing has changed from ancient times, only one difference : we know a GIANT crocodile or snake is not a dragon, otherwise.... IT IS " BUSINESS AS USUAL"
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May 10 2007, 11:57 AM #18

KUPCHI> frightening images were designed by leaders to frighten the enemy and frighten the masses into submission like what the republicans are doing right now.

when done in ancient times it was VERY effective.

TITAN WAR GOD OF ANCIENT OLYMPUS

In a modern day democracy that tactic ONLY works for a little while

REPUBLICAN WAR GOD OF 21st CENTURY

THE LAST TWO PICS ARE THE SAME:
THREATENING HAND GESTURE
DEATH AND DESTRUCTION
MONOLITHIC STRUCTURE
MILITARY PRESENCE
OPEN MOUTH

oh yeh, that white stuff is smoke coming from his mouth- I guess the answer's YES
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May 11 2007, 08:07 AM #20

yO phhhhhoenix man>cool it bud, don't you know CREATIVE WRITING when you see it ? gotta make it interesting to drive home a point , but then again how much of it I really believe myself is my business.....agrees wid yu on all points intended,
so your'e not alone on that. can't stand it when folks try to cram scripture down my throat. we are all entitled to our own personal beliefs

swear I didn't touch Bush's photo- what do you think about the comparison to photo above his ? alota dragontale to get to that point

its not RELIGION but what men DO with it.

question posed : are religions based on death cults, in view of current events
I have to say YES, originally said NO, but after a little research, changed my mind

THE BUSH REGIME FITS THE DEATH CULT CATEGORY PERFECTLY

Seems that other cultures which traditionally FEAR the dragon, are quick to respond to fear and kill others indiscriminantly in the name of SELF-DEFENSE

Cultures who have a history of showing RESPECT and HONOR to the dragon, have
a peace-loving nature within their culture and are NOT easily driven to WAR
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