SAD, what is the problem (biopsy)

SAD, what is the problem (biopsy)

Bharani
Bharani

May 1st, 2012, 1:36 am #1

I posted last time saying that I had to do another biospy because during shipping it spilt. I did another one. Today I learned it wasn't enough tissue to analyze, in their word "inconclusive". I spoke to the doctor (pathologist) he said that he couldn't say much about it since it wasn't enough tissue to analyze. He said he saw some tissue... but wasn't enough. Now the secretary said doctor wants to do the sample during hysterscopy. Do you think it is a problem giving that much sample? What do I do to not have any scaring on my uterus?
Finally just to share and maybe to get your opinion too. The lab sent me an email saying if they prefer to charge me the credit card I provided to my (Canada) clinic for the biopsy. I got their number from my immune doctor and then called them. They said since they tried to analyze it I should pay $350 it doesn't matter whether there were enough tissue to do it or not. I don't understand? But what do you think? Do they deserve that money or not?

Please know I had so many failures and money is an issue for me. But no way, I want to take anyone's money. I wonder sometimes if I am griddy and that is why I ask myself if they deserve the money.
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May 1st, 2012, 2:20 am #2

The tissue sample my local doc did for the biopsy and sent in was not good enough, inconclusive, they wanted another one, blah blah blah. I had been through enough already and didn't want to repeat the test. The thing they are looking for (high NKs lurking in the uterus) is a theory that is very controversial and was truly not likely to be the problem. I just needed good embryos in the end, that was what finally worked.
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May 1st, 2012, 2:25 am #3

I posted last time saying that I had to do another biospy because during shipping it spilt. I did another one. Today I learned it wasn't enough tissue to analyze, in their word "inconclusive". I spoke to the doctor (pathologist) he said that he couldn't say much about it since it wasn't enough tissue to analyze. He said he saw some tissue... but wasn't enough. Now the secretary said doctor wants to do the sample during hysterscopy. Do you think it is a problem giving that much sample? What do I do to not have any scaring on my uterus?
Finally just to share and maybe to get your opinion too. The lab sent me an email saying if they prefer to charge me the credit card I provided to my (Canada) clinic for the biopsy. I got their number from my immune doctor and then called them. They said since they tried to analyze it I should pay $350 it doesn't matter whether there were enough tissue to do it or not. I don't understand? But what do you think? Do they deserve that money or not?

Please know I had so many failures and money is an issue for me. But no way, I want to take anyone's money. I wonder sometimes if I am griddy and that is why I ask myself if they deserve the money.
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As if going through IF stuff isn't challenging enough, you've got people bumbling the tests.

I personally would not pay for a test that provided me no results. I would communicate that fact to the doctor and the lab. It is not your fault that the doctors/lab involved didn't collect the sample correctly.

Just my two cents worth...

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CL
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Mrs. M
Mrs. M

May 1st, 2012, 12:30 pm #4

I posted last time saying that I had to do another biospy because during shipping it spilt. I did another one. Today I learned it wasn't enough tissue to analyze, in their word "inconclusive". I spoke to the doctor (pathologist) he said that he couldn't say much about it since it wasn't enough tissue to analyze. He said he saw some tissue... but wasn't enough. Now the secretary said doctor wants to do the sample during hysterscopy. Do you think it is a problem giving that much sample? What do I do to not have any scaring on my uterus?
Finally just to share and maybe to get your opinion too. The lab sent me an email saying if they prefer to charge me the credit card I provided to my (Canada) clinic for the biopsy. I got their number from my immune doctor and then called them. They said since they tried to analyze it I should pay $350 it doesn't matter whether there were enough tissue to do it or not. I don't understand? But what do you think? Do they deserve that money or not?

Please know I had so many failures and money is an issue for me. But no way, I want to take anyone's money. I wonder sometimes if I am griddy and that is why I ask myself if they deserve the money.
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How can the clinic make two errors like that?! I do not think you should be responsible for the charges for the pathologist. The clinican who took the sample is at fault. I hope they can resolve the issue for you. Sorry that you will have to go thru add'l testing to get the answers you are looking for. Good luck.
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May 1st, 2012, 6:48 pm #5

I posted last time saying that I had to do another biospy because during shipping it spilt. I did another one. Today I learned it wasn't enough tissue to analyze, in their word "inconclusive". I spoke to the doctor (pathologist) he said that he couldn't say much about it since it wasn't enough tissue to analyze. He said he saw some tissue... but wasn't enough. Now the secretary said doctor wants to do the sample during hysterscopy. Do you think it is a problem giving that much sample? What do I do to not have any scaring on my uterus?
Finally just to share and maybe to get your opinion too. The lab sent me an email saying if they prefer to charge me the credit card I provided to my (Canada) clinic for the biopsy. I got their number from my immune doctor and then called them. They said since they tried to analyze it I should pay $350 it doesn't matter whether there were enough tissue to do it or not. I don't understand? But what do you think? Do they deserve that money or not?

Please know I had so many failures and money is an issue for me. But no way, I want to take anyone's money. I wonder sometimes if I am griddy and that is why I ask myself if they deserve the money.
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Or was it a different lab?
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minniet
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May 1st, 2012, 7:10 pm #6

I posted last time saying that I had to do another biospy because during shipping it spilt. I did another one. Today I learned it wasn't enough tissue to analyze, in their word "inconclusive". I spoke to the doctor (pathologist) he said that he couldn't say much about it since it wasn't enough tissue to analyze. He said he saw some tissue... but wasn't enough. Now the secretary said doctor wants to do the sample during hysterscopy. Do you think it is a problem giving that much sample? What do I do to not have any scaring on my uterus?
Finally just to share and maybe to get your opinion too. The lab sent me an email saying if they prefer to charge me the credit card I provided to my (Canada) clinic for the biopsy. I got their number from my immune doctor and then called them. They said since they tried to analyze it I should pay $350 it doesn't matter whether there were enough tissue to do it or not. I don't understand? But what do you think? Do they deserve that money or not?

Please know I had so many failures and money is an issue for me. But no way, I want to take anyone's money. I wonder sometimes if I am griddy and that is why I ask myself if they deserve the money.
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Bharani:

First, I wish neither you nor I were going through this hell. I am sorry, please know you are not alone.

Is your clinic taking the samples and screwing things up? If so, honestly, I think you need to consider biting the bullet and finding another clinic. A lot of the things I am hearing suggest they are not trustworthy for this test, let alone a cycle. They have lost things, unkindly demanded payment, and now, not enough tissue?

Second, you are doing the Yale test, right? Not checking for inflammation or infection, right?

I have to tell you, two years ago, I had a girlfriend go through the exact same thing as you with the Yale test -- they lost it twice!

Which also makes me suspicious of them. Now, we have a gal here on the boards who did it, changed her protocol to a slow intro of progesterone, and is now pregnant. However, my RE said he used to do it and found, after trying it 20 times, that it did not improve outcomes.

So, if I were you, I would NOT pursue the biopsy, I would NOT pay for it, and I would consider whether I wanted to try the slow progesterone introduction protocol with or without the Yale results. One thing that confuses me - I thought they checked to see if you were "out of phase" at Yale and then put people on Lupron...but anyway, I may be confusing Yale with another lab that loses everything.

I hope you are trying to take care of yourself, as I am trying very hard to do. Sending you hugs.
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May 1st, 2012, 9:25 pm #7

I posted last time saying that I had to do another biospy because during shipping it spilt. I did another one. Today I learned it wasn't enough tissue to analyze, in their word "inconclusive". I spoke to the doctor (pathologist) he said that he couldn't say much about it since it wasn't enough tissue to analyze. He said he saw some tissue... but wasn't enough. Now the secretary said doctor wants to do the sample during hysterscopy. Do you think it is a problem giving that much sample? What do I do to not have any scaring on my uterus?
Finally just to share and maybe to get your opinion too. The lab sent me an email saying if they prefer to charge me the credit card I provided to my (Canada) clinic for the biopsy. I got their number from my immune doctor and then called them. They said since they tried to analyze it I should pay $350 it doesn't matter whether there were enough tissue to do it or not. I don't understand? But what do you think? Do they deserve that money or not?

Please know I had so many failures and money is an issue for me. But no way, I want to take anyone's money. I wonder sometimes if I am griddy and that is why I ask myself if they deserve the money.
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I wouldn't pay them a cent!

It sounds like it was their mistake, so you shouldn't have to cover their idiocy! It sounds as if they might have a bit of a reputation, so I would research this a bit and then potentially change clinics.

Sucks that you are going through this. My thoughts are with you.
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Bharani
Bharani

May 2nd, 2012, 12:49 am #8

The tissue sample my local doc did for the biopsy and sent in was not good enough, inconclusive, they wanted another one, blah blah blah. I had been through enough already and didn't want to repeat the test. The thing they are looking for (high NKs lurking in the uterus) is a theory that is very controversial and was truly not likely to be the problem. I just needed good embryos in the end, that was what finally worked.
if you saw.Mine was like the size of two to three letters maximum. I just saw from outside of the container.

I wish you the best. Since I have to do hysterscopy. The RE wants to do it at that time.

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Bharani
Bharani

May 2nd, 2012, 12:55 am #9

As if going through IF stuff isn't challenging enough, you've got people bumbling the tests.

I personally would not pay for a test that provided me no results. I would communicate that fact to the doctor and the lab. It is not your fault that the doctors/lab involved didn't collect the sample correctly.

Just my two cents worth...

HUGS

CL
The lab is located in CA, I think so. The secretary of my doctor said that it is too painful for me and the doctor doesn't want to go 3rd time. She will do at the time of the hysterscopy. I felt since I screamed the first time I think that is what she is talking about. I didn't scream at all the second time but made few low voices.

Regarding the payment. I don't know them the lab and I don't think the RE knows them either. I called Allen BC which they told me the biopsy is done somewhere else. I had to call them yesterday. I don't think my doctor here in Canada can do anything in regard to the payment.
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Bharani
Bharani

May 2nd, 2012, 12:59 am #10

How can the clinic make two errors like that?! I do not think you should be responsible for the charges for the pathologist. The clinican who took the sample is at fault. I hope they can resolve the issue for you. Sorry that you will have to go thru add'l testing to get the answers you are looking for. Good luck.
but I can't dare to say to them it is their fault. I already felt that the secretary putting the blame on me. How it was too painful for me to do this thing. I would be fine with paying the shipping and just one time of the biospy, meaning for the second one.

Yes, I went through alot. The last few days have been... I think I aged too b/c of the stress.

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