please, please help! Protocol roll-call

please, please help! Protocol roll-call

worldtraveler
worldtraveler

February 4th, 2011, 2:14 pm #1

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
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February 4th, 2011, 3:31 pm #2

I was actually supposed to do DelEstrogen injections but it is not approved here in Canada, so my RE (in the U.S.) allowed me to do estrace vaginally instead.

No bcp's prior to cycle (allergic) just HRT and provera to time me up. Daily injections of Lupron (evil) prior to starting the estrace.

2mg estrace 3 times daily starting on Day 3 of cycle. My transfer was on Oct 14 and I started the estrace on Sept 29, so approximately 16 days of build up and my lining was 13+.

*Now I did double up on my dose as I was having horrible headaches and very sick at the beginning of the cycle, so I was doing 4mg for my morning dose*.

Keep in mind this was my 5 attempt at building a lining with 2 other transfers under my belt. We also tried the vivelle patches (whatever they are) and I had another allergic reaction and dropped my lining 3 days prior to ER. This cycle I did no acu, I worked out 5 days a week and drank water like it was going out of style. And this was my successful cycle.

I hope this helps!

Good Luck!

ks

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Joined: September 13th, 2008, 5:13 pm

February 4th, 2011, 3:43 pm #3

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
When my lining was only 7mm on ER day (in the Czech Republic), the doctor gave me a big shot of estrogen (Agatolin), and I was 10mm by ET day. They had me on 2 mg estradiol 4x/day and 100mg Prometrium 3x/day after ER. That cycle was successful, bb twins. Now, on my first cycle, which was unsuccessful, I was on the same protocol, and was at 11mm on ER day and 13mm on ET day. But BFN, so it goes to show you thick lining isn't everything. Maggie (in VA)
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Lu
Lu

February 4th, 2011, 4:01 pm #4

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
Hi there,

I had trouble building a lining with oral and vaginal estrogen, it would measure 5.1-6.5. My RE let me switch to shots during a mock cycle, saw better results, so that is what I am doing now.

I take a delestrogen injection every 3rd night- 10mg is my dose. I also had to add pentoxyphylline 2x/day, BA daily, Vit E 1000mg daily and viagra suppositories 4x/day- we added all of this the same day we switched to injections, so not sure what did the trick. My lining is slowly growing 6.5, then 6.8, earlier this week 7.3. My RE also gave me a longer than typical time to build my lining before my donor goes for retrieval.

I also do accu weekly, exercising and drinking plenty of water.
Wishing you lots of luck and keep us posted on how it goes
Lu

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February 4th, 2011, 5:05 pm #5

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
On the 5th day after stopping BCPs, I started the estrogen shots, Delestrogen 20mg/ml (they come in 3 different concentrations, 20mg/ml was the one I was prescribed). I injected 0.2 ml twice a week, on Thursday and Sunday nights.

So I took a shot on Thursday, then Sunday, then went in for monitoring the following Thursday morning. I had only taken 2 shots by then (next one was due that evening), and my lining was already 10 TL and E2 was 770.

One week later, my lining was roughly the same but E2 went up to over 1000.

I stayed at 0.2ml of the delestrogen per shot, but they would have increased it if my lining wasn't responding as well. Apparently it is typical to increase it but I was a little unusual in that regard.

I was successful on that cycle with a transfer of 1 blast. Hope that helps!
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worldtraveler
worldtraveler

February 4th, 2011, 6:30 pm #6

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
Thanks so much to those who've responded!! I really appreciate your help! I'd like to get as many protocols as I can to show him so if you haven't responded, please let me know what you're on.
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Kacee
Kacee

February 4th, 2011, 6:42 pm #7

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
estradoil valerate, every three days. I started at .02 twice, then went to .04 and then to .06. With my last cycle I had to go to .08. I also took 2mg of estrace vaginally.

Last cycle included 10mg of Lexapro starting one month before cycle started and continuing to heartbeat. I had been getting thinner and thinner linings. I was able to get my lining to over 9 last time and the cycle before that was a 6. Dr. Beer is the one that uses this (he is now deceased, but still has clinics in his name.) He believes that by the lexapro increases serotonin levels in the brain, it increases bloodflow to the uterus.

Exercise helps, as does sex with the "O".
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Kacee
Kacee

February 4th, 2011, 6:43 pm #8

an US at CD11 and my lining was not where it should be, so did extra shots in between.
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Leigh888
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February 4th, 2011, 7:25 pm #9

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
I was supposed to do .2cc shots of del estrogen every third day, but I was a little behind schedule so they had me on them every other day for the first four shots. Then, I switched to every third day.
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February 4th, 2011, 7:33 pm #10

My lining went down again (5 on day 10!) and my doctor is very hesitant about using estrogen injections (he's very up on his research but apparently they don't do the shots here) so I want to show him a sampling of protocols to show him how common they are in the US. Could everyone please just write a quick example of your lining protocol (whether you use estrogen shots or not) with your success or not? I know it's not a scientific study but it should give him an idea of the different things that people are using.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Rachel
del estrogen every 3rd night...
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