Mock lining trial not working. Any hints?

Mock lining trial not working. Any hints?

Lu
Lu

December 3rd, 2010, 12:36 am #1

Hi ladies,
I am getting so frustrated!! Mostly b/c we were shooting for a January cycle, now my RE's office is saying it will probably be February. Back when I found my donor December sounded like an eternity away, and it just keeps getting pushed back.
My lining is the current issue- had been on 2mg/3x day oral estrace for 4 weeks- lining would range from 6.5-6.8. Stopped that a week ago and started 1mg/2x day vaginal estrace. U/S yesterday showed lining of 5.4-6.0!!! A shrinking lining-fabulous!! My RE wants to continue this for another week and will see what the next U/S shows wednesday.
Trying to help things out- I went to my accu yesterday, and will again Sat. Started doing moxa 2x/day. I take fish oil and BA daily for about a month now (Hashimoto's and POF). Just went and bought Raspberry leaf tea (which I hope is the same as red raspberry red leaf tea, anybody know?) and am drinking a cup now. Trying to increase fluids.
What else can I be doing? I wish I had started trying to add these things in sooner. I am so mad at myself and so frustrated that this is taking what seems like forever. Of course I am glad we are trying to figure this out now before my donor starts meds or anything.
Thanks for listening and I will take any suggestions.
Lu
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Lu
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December 3rd, 2010, 12:36 am #2

sorry-didn't mean to post this twice
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Kekona
Kekona

December 3rd, 2010, 12:59 am #3

Hi ladies,
I am getting so frustrated!! Mostly b/c we were shooting for a January cycle, now my RE's office is saying it will probably be February. Back when I found my donor December sounded like an eternity away, and it just keeps getting pushed back.
My lining is the current issue- had been on 2mg/3x day oral estrace for 4 weeks- lining would range from 6.5-6.8. Stopped that a week ago and started 1mg/2x day vaginal estrace. U/S yesterday showed lining of 5.4-6.0!!! A shrinking lining-fabulous!! My RE wants to continue this for another week and will see what the next U/S shows wednesday.
Trying to help things out- I went to my accu yesterday, and will again Sat. Started doing moxa 2x/day. I take fish oil and BA daily for about a month now (Hashimoto's and POF). Just went and bought Raspberry leaf tea (which I hope is the same as red raspberry red leaf tea, anybody know?) and am drinking a cup now. Trying to increase fluids.
What else can I be doing? I wish I had started trying to add these things in sooner. I am so mad at myself and so frustrated that this is taking what seems like forever. Of course I am glad we are trying to figure this out now before my donor starts meds or anything.
Thanks for listening and I will take any suggestions.
Lu
I needed estrogen patches. If you'll look at my post below, I've described my protocol. I got to 9.1 in 13 days.
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December 3rd, 2010, 1:00 am #4

Hi ladies,
I am getting so frustrated!! Mostly b/c we were shooting for a January cycle, now my RE's office is saying it will probably be February. Back when I found my donor December sounded like an eternity away, and it just keeps getting pushed back.
My lining is the current issue- had been on 2mg/3x day oral estrace for 4 weeks- lining would range from 6.5-6.8. Stopped that a week ago and started 1mg/2x day vaginal estrace. U/S yesterday showed lining of 5.4-6.0!!! A shrinking lining-fabulous!! My RE wants to continue this for another week and will see what the next U/S shows wednesday.
Trying to help things out- I went to my accu yesterday, and will again Sat. Started doing moxa 2x/day. I take fish oil and BA daily for about a month now (Hashimoto's and POF). Just went and bought Raspberry leaf tea (which I hope is the same as red raspberry red leaf tea, anybody know?) and am drinking a cup now. Trying to increase fluids.
What else can I be doing? I wish I had started trying to add these things in sooner. I am so mad at myself and so frustrated that this is taking what seems like forever. Of course I am glad we are trying to figure this out now before my donor starts meds or anything.
Thanks for listening and I will take any suggestions.
Lu
I had the same issues. I switched to doin Estrace vaginally as we figured I wasn't breaking the Estrace down properly orally. I had to do 2mg 3-4x daily to get it really going. And to be honest with you I sometimes did am extra one. I didn't do any teas or accu the last 2x. I did drink a lot of water and I worked put 5x a week during my build. Mainly to take my mind off the cycle but some say it also increases the blood flow. I hope your lining starts cooperating soon!
All my best to you!
ks

Me - 32 yrs
DH - 33 yrs (perfect)
TTC #1 - 5 yrs
DX: Hashimoto Thyroiditis / high fsh / blocked tubes
Highest FSH 72
Lowest 3.5
Highest E2 - 1400
DE #1 (vitrified eggs due to complications) -
FET #1 - Nov 2009 BFN
FET #2 - Jan 2010 BFN
Tubeless May 2010
July 2010 - Donor Selected! Woot! Woot!
DE #2 - Oct 2010 BFP
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December 3rd, 2010, 1:08 am #5

Hi ladies,
I am getting so frustrated!! Mostly b/c we were shooting for a January cycle, now my RE's office is saying it will probably be February. Back when I found my donor December sounded like an eternity away, and it just keeps getting pushed back.
My lining is the current issue- had been on 2mg/3x day oral estrace for 4 weeks- lining would range from 6.5-6.8. Stopped that a week ago and started 1mg/2x day vaginal estrace. U/S yesterday showed lining of 5.4-6.0!!! A shrinking lining-fabulous!! My RE wants to continue this for another week and will see what the next U/S shows wednesday.
Trying to help things out- I went to my accu yesterday, and will again Sat. Started doing moxa 2x/day. I take fish oil and BA daily for about a month now (Hashimoto's and POF). Just went and bought Raspberry leaf tea (which I hope is the same as red raspberry red leaf tea, anybody know?) and am drinking a cup now. Trying to increase fluids.
What else can I be doing? I wish I had started trying to add these things in sooner. I am so mad at myself and so frustrated that this is taking what seems like forever. Of course I am glad we are trying to figure this out now before my donor starts meds or anything.
Thanks for listening and I will take any suggestions.
Lu
I never had a good lining, but I did have success on a 6.8mm and others have had success with a 6.5mm and up. Ideally you would want it much thicker of course but some of us just can't get there.

Check out this post for everything I tried:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/57451/th ... a%21%21%21

Hope this helps and best of luck to you.

Audrey
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Orchid
Orchid

December 3rd, 2010, 6:05 am #6

Hi ladies,
I am getting so frustrated!! Mostly b/c we were shooting for a January cycle, now my RE's office is saying it will probably be February. Back when I found my donor December sounded like an eternity away, and it just keeps getting pushed back.
My lining is the current issue- had been on 2mg/3x day oral estrace for 4 weeks- lining would range from 6.5-6.8. Stopped that a week ago and started 1mg/2x day vaginal estrace. U/S yesterday showed lining of 5.4-6.0!!! A shrinking lining-fabulous!! My RE wants to continue this for another week and will see what the next U/S shows wednesday.
Trying to help things out- I went to my accu yesterday, and will again Sat. Started doing moxa 2x/day. I take fish oil and BA daily for about a month now (Hashimoto's and POF). Just went and bought Raspberry leaf tea (which I hope is the same as red raspberry red leaf tea, anybody know?) and am drinking a cup now. Trying to increase fluids.
What else can I be doing? I wish I had started trying to add these things in sooner. I am so mad at myself and so frustrated that this is taking what seems like forever. Of course I am glad we are trying to figure this out now before my donor starts meds or anything.
Thanks for listening and I will take any suggestions.
Lu
I am confused by that.
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ks
ks

December 3rd, 2010, 1:17 pm #7

In case you are a difficult case ( like I was )! I ended up with an allergic reaction to the estrogen patches in my first de cycle and dropped my lining 3 days before ER. Ended up vitrifying the eggs due to the complications. Which was a huge letdown. I know doing the mock seems like a timewaster but when you fail to build a lining and end up with a cancelled cycle...that's worse!

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Lu
Lu

December 3rd, 2010, 4:23 pm #8

I needed estrogen patches. If you'll look at my post below, I've described my protocol. I got to 9.1 in 13 days.
I think I may ask about the estrogen patches next week if we don't see a beeter lining. Also, I think I will definetly step it up on the exercise. I did use viagra supp with my 1st donor & a different clinic. This RE is not a fan, don't know why, but I think I'll bring it up again. Thanks so so much for all of your advice.
Lu
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Lu
Lu

December 3rd, 2010, 4:29 pm #9

I had the same issues. I switched to doin Estrace vaginally as we figured I wasn't breaking the Estrace down properly orally. I had to do 2mg 3-4x daily to get it really going. And to be honest with you I sometimes did am extra one. I didn't do any teas or accu the last 2x. I did drink a lot of water and I worked put 5x a week during my build. Mainly to take my mind off the cycle but some say it also increases the blood flow. I hope your lining starts cooperating soon!
All my best to you!
ks

Me - 32 yrs
DH - 33 yrs (perfect)
TTC #1 - 5 yrs
DX: Hashimoto Thyroiditis / high fsh / blocked tubes
Highest FSH 72
Lowest 3.5
Highest E2 - 1400
DE #1 (vitrified eggs due to complications) -
FET #1 - Nov 2009 BFN
FET #2 - Jan 2010 BFN
Tubeless May 2010
July 2010 - Donor Selected! Woot! Woot!
DE #2 - Oct 2010 BFP
And congratulations!! I need to get back on the exercise wagon, this was a bad time to take a break from it. Maybe I need more of the vag estrace, you are taking more than I. My e2 level was 1347 though, don't know if they'll add more or not. Do you lay down awhile after you insert it? I only do it morning and before bed right now, and I try to stay laying for an hour or so. Don't know if its necessary though? I'm afraid its all going to come out or something.
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Lu
Lu

December 3rd, 2010, 4:36 pm #10

I never had a good lining, but I did have success on a 6.8mm and others have had success with a 6.5mm and up. Ideally you would want it much thicker of course but some of us just can't get there.

Check out this post for everything I tried:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/57451/th ... a%21%21%21

Hope this helps and best of luck to you.

Audrey
Congratulations to you, that's awesome! Thanks for the tips. I am going to try your hot/cold water torture treatment tonight. Also, I saw you take 2 fish oil 2x/day. I inly take 1 a day, its a 1000mg capsule. I don't know if I should take more or not. Is there a reason why you take that many?
Thanks again!
Lu
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