Almario, since that thread is locked, I agree that we can ask God for wisdom, but

Almario, since that thread is locked, I agree that we can ask God for wisdom, but

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June 16th, 2017, 6:17 am #1

still, that does not mean God will cause us to understand the whole Bible, at least not in this life. As Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians, now we see through glass darkly, but when the perfect comes, we will know.
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June 16th, 2017, 7:26 pm #2

GOD's revelations solely from HIS written Sacred Scriptures upon Scriptures
were just shared and written here and never from my own understanding that
you keep pressing on me.

Elaborate from your own doctrines on what is the lifetime that GOD will let
us understand HIS Sacred written infallible Words?

And, Paul seeing through glass darkly until such perfect time comes then we
will know?
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June 17th, 2017, 2:35 pm #3

this will be when Mt. Zion will be the highest mountain, above all mountains, and we will be going to Mt. Zion to be instructed by God. This was revealed in Is. 2:2-3 and the same was revealed also in Micah 4:1-2. Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 13:12 that now we see through glass darkly, he wrote in verse 9 that we know in part and we prophesy in part, and in verse 10 he added that when the perfect has come, then that which is in part shall be done away, so verse 12 says that while now we see through glass darkly, then face to face, now Paul knows in part, but then Paul will know even as he is known. So when we look at these verses, we see that we will know when the perfect comes. Who is the perfect who will come? Naturally Jesus Christ. So when Jesus Christ comes back, we will be resurrected and come to Mt. Zion for instruction, God will be teaching us.
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June 18th, 2017, 3:24 am #4

Tomas's doctrines vainly bypassed GOD's preludes of soul salvation
from HIS written infallible Words about knowing, recognizing and
absolutely believing uwho HE was that manifested in flesh.

john 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
for if ye believe not that I am he , ye shall die in your sins .

Your discourses veered from what the One and Only Saviour GOD
revealed to Paul:

1 tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifest in the flesh , justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Thus, GOD's stern rebut to Tomas from what Paul wrote:

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed .

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed .<b>
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June 18th, 2017, 2:32 pm #5

From the assembly fellowship of the brethren as shared to those called
at this point in time. Eventually then possibly to be chosen and would
be converted and become as little children.

One of the preludes from GOD's written Words as HE IDENTIFIES and REVEALS
HIMSELF to HIS chosen after they were converted into like little children.

Now He Rebukes and Accusesprofessing Christians

“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and
they are they which testify of me.” (John 5:39)

Perhaps the biggest question bothering the minds of many people is the
identity of God. People all over the world speak of God. They describe
Him as the Creator, the Savior, the Almighty, the Most High, the Majestic
Being, the All in All, etc. They give Him name as Allah, Bathala, Zeus, etc.

People believing in the Holy Bible identify Him as: Yahweh, Jehovah, Yeshua,
Father, “I am that I am”, The Almighty, Lord, Rose of Sharon, Lily of the
Valley, El Shaddai, Jesus Christ, etc.

Traditional Christianity describes God as: A Spirit, infinite, eternal, and
unchangeable – in His being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness,
and truth.

The need to know God

Of course, plain and obvious :

◾Can we believe somebody that we are not familiar with?
◾Can we trust him that we do not know or clearly recognize?
◾Can love develop unless clear identification is mutual?

In the Holy Bible, this is what we read as regards the need to identify God.
His rebuke is directed to His own people. We are reminded of the (multitudes)
5,000 men that Jesus Christ fed with “bread and fishes” and He called them
His DISCIPLES.

However, when our Lord began speaking “spiritual things”:

John 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said,
This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

These Disciples left Him for they did not understand what He was saying and
so his admonition:

Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are
sottish children, and they have none understanding…

Therefore, the warning to everybody at Judgment Day:

Luke 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy
presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are;
depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall
see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom
of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

And to the Religious Leaders claiming to know Jesus Christ:

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name [Jesus Christ]? and in thy name [Jesus Christ]
have cast out devils? and in thy name [Jesus Christ] done many wonderful works?

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me,
ye that work iniquity.

God emphasizes iniquity as if it is more serious than sin. From the tenor of God’s
rebuke, it is for “not knowing Him”.

john 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
for if ye believe not that I am he , ye shall die in your sins .<b>
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June 18th, 2017, 10:59 pm #6

Salvation made easy ?

This is only the fruit of human wisdom. Real believers
are greatly saddened hearing professing apostles of
Christ preaching “easy way of salvation.” But Peter
saw otherwise:

Mat 19:25 “When his disciples heard it, they were
exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With
men this is impossible; but with God all things are
possible.”

Truly salvation is attained only with the mercy of God ,
and this He grants to the “babes” in His sight.<b>
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June 19th, 2017, 2:15 am #7

still, that does not mean God will cause us to understand the whole Bible, at least not in this life. As Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians, now we see through glass darkly, but when the perfect comes, we will know.
That other thread wasn't that long, what makes it lock? or is it someone monitoring this form? I thought it wasn't monitored? I guess it is because there's a sticky thread on top. If an admin is reading this I'd like to know how threads are locked.
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June 19th, 2017, 4:41 am #8

I certainly welcome any comments from anyone who knows.
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June 19th, 2017, 4:52 am #9

Salvation made easy ?

This is only the fruit of human wisdom. Real believers
are greatly saddened hearing professing apostles of
Christ preaching “easy way of salvation.” But Peter
saw otherwise:

Mat 19:25 “When his disciples heard it, they were
exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With
men this is impossible; but with God all things are
possible.”

Truly salvation is attained only with the mercy of God ,
and this He grants to the “babes” in His sight.<b>
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After all, it does not reveal everything about Jesus, like how he looked like, when he was walking on earth. So how can they think it reveals everything about such an infinite being as God? Some verses make it clear we can't know much about God, like when God spoke to Job, he made it clear to Job.
So while we can know God, as our friend, our savior, the Almighty, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being who is the creator of the universe with his Son, still, we can't know much about him. But I expect we will know considerably more when the perfect comes, Jesus Christ, and we will be resurrected and taught by God himself, on Mt. Zion, it will be wonderful.
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June 19th, 2017, 1:30 pm #10

Tomas doctrines veered GOD's Sacred infallible Words for
ones soul salvation and your non-recognition of Who HE was
that manifested in flesh is so deceptive that is tantamount
for the gullible to believe in easy salvation.


" I AM HE "


As if God is saying, "Look how people missed the great message
of My (Father) reference to the Son in the following:"


ISAIAH 46:4 "And even to your old age I am he ..."

ISAIAH 41:4 "...I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he ."

ISAIAH 43:25 "I, even I , am he that blotteth out thy transgressions
for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins."

ISAIAH 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he ;
I am the first, I also am the last."


As of God is saying, "Look how people missed the great message of My
(Son Jesus) reference to the Father in the following:


JOHN 13:19 "Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to
pass, ye may believe that I am he ."

JOHN 18:6 "As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he , they went
backward, and fell to the ground."

JOHN 8:28 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the
Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he ..."


"How many of you know the true meaning of 'when ye have lifted up the
Son of man?' Many people equate this to their praise, resplendent words
and songs and sacrifices for Me. Have they forgotten that their prayer
is even abomination to Me if they do not listen to My words?"


PROVERBS 28:9 "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even
his prayer shall be abomination."


"And their sacrifices? Do I need them? Which is more than all burnt
offering and sacrifices? Do you still remember what I told the Scribe
who asked Me which is the first of all the commandments?


MARK 12:28 "And one of the scribes came...perceiving that he had
answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?"

MARK 12:29-33 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments
is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the
Lord thy God with all thy heart... this is the first commandment. And the
second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour...is more than
all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices."

MARK 12:32-33 "And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said
the truth: for there is one God...And to love him...and to love his neighbour
as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices."

"Why do many of you, especially your religious leaders, not take up this
PREREQUISITE to 'loving Me'? This is to identify Me as ' ONE LORD AND ONE GOD .'
Did I not call that as the 'first of all the commandments' if only to emphasize
that you can never truly love God before you clearly recognize Me as ' One Lord
and One God '. Now you are already boasting of 'loving your neighbor' which is
the last in the sequence. Did the Scribes and Pharisees recognize the 'One Lord
and One God?' It is good this particular Scribe asked about the
FIRST COMMANDMENT OF ALL !"<b>

john 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
for if ye believe not that I am he , ye shall die in your sins.

john 10:30 I and my Father are one .
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