Tales from the Bluff Creek drama...

Tales from the Bluff Creek drama...

Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 8th, 2010, 3:32 pm #1

Gimlin claimed the only way to get equipment into Bluff Creek was by air...apparently Gimlin didn't read the below book...

See page 42 of Chris Murphy & John Greens Meet the Sasquatch
John Green's map...that page shows the old access road that at the time ran parallel to Bluff Creek.
According to Peter Byrne, that road was workable during the era of the Slick Expedition...Hodgson confuses Blue Creek Mountain Road with the old access road...

Why am I not surprised?...I do realize this was over forty years back and memories do get skewed but if you can't remember or don't know simply say...I can't remember or don't know and quit this trying to prove we're wrong with lies especially when there is written recorded reports showing access to the area...

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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 8th, 2010, 3:51 pm #2

Gimlin: "I had a one ton truck with a horse van on it to haul the animals and all of our equipment."

They were forced to leave because of a storm...Gimlin had to commandeer a backhoe to pull his truck out...so yes...they had access to a back hoe...

After having to leave because of this storm...Lyle Laverty claimed he went in the next day...took pictures and cast a track...the track cast was the same track Meldrum claims reveals the mid tarsal break...I find this discovery remarkable since the below track was the only one of its kind found...BTW...if you watched Natl. Geo. documentary Meldrum used the cast of this track to prove his point...it was mentioned he had over 200 tracks in his collection with this particular track being used to show the mid tarsal break...seems a bit slanted IMO...

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Saskfoot
Saskfoot

March 8th, 2010, 4:01 pm #3


How did that track survive the torrential rains? It looks hours old.

Al Hodgson testifies in 2008 that Patterson and Gimlin took Charlie Whitson's backhoe without
permission; Al goes on to say that Whitson was furious with Patterson for that...but Al stops
short of saying the backhoe was used to pull out Gimlin's vehicle.

Lyle Laverty was present BEFORE the rains came, NOT afterwards. That is the only way
that pristine track survived.
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 8th, 2010, 4:11 pm #4

They claimed Patty's foot landed flat when walking...the below animation shows a heel to toe walk...why do people listen to Meldrum?...he's done nothing but mislead...if you don't know...you don't know but stop with the BS using your education to persuade people you know what you are talking about...

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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 8th, 2010, 4:12 pm #5

How did that track survive the torrential rains? It looks hours old.

Al Hodgson testifies in 2008 that Patterson and Gimlin took Charlie Whitson's backhoe without
permission; Al goes on to say that Whitson was furious with Patterson for that...but Al stops
short of saying the backhoe was used to pull out Gimlin's vehicle.

Lyle Laverty was present BEFORE the rains came, NOT afterwards. That is the only way
that pristine track survived.
the event...he also knows exactly what transpired...
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Saskfoot
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March 8th, 2010, 4:31 pm #6

They claimed Patty's foot landed flat when walking...the below animation shows a heel to toe walk...why do people listen to Meldrum?...he's done nothing but mislead...if you don't know...you don't know but stop with the BS using your education to persuade people you know what you are talking about...

The only education Meldrum has is an extensive vocabulary.
He is so utterly clueless otherwise that he has to run to the books to look up
everything he should already know. He is incapable of admitting his short-comings
and he thinks he wears Krantz's mantle. WRONG. The man is utterly clueless and
THE MOST BORING SPEAKER I HAVE EVER LISTENED TOO.
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CoastalMike
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March 8th, 2010, 4:33 pm #7

How did that track survive the torrential rains? It looks hours old.

Al Hodgson testifies in 2008 that Patterson and Gimlin took Charlie Whitson's backhoe without
permission; Al goes on to say that Whitson was furious with Patterson for that...but Al stops
short of saying the backhoe was used to pull out Gimlin's vehicle.

Lyle Laverty was present BEFORE the rains came, NOT afterwards. That is the only way
that pristine track survived.
no way do P and G leave the area until they had good tracks. After all, that was one of the main objectives. So after the rain let up, they redid the tracks. That is the reason they almost didn't get out.

Somebody needs to ask Laverty about the effects of the rain.
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 8th, 2010, 4:41 pm #8

at a different time frame...a few days, a few weeks to maybe a month...

Patterson rented several cameras from a place in Yakima...when he first went in he showed the man behind the counter telling him that is what he needed the camera for...the man behind the counter told Patterson the track wouldn't support what Patterson claimed it would...a few days later Patterson came back in with another cast..

The importance of the above is that Patterson could and would provide hoaxed tracks...
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 8th, 2010, 5:10 pm #9

Without a known measurement they used Gimilns guess of Patterson being approximately 100 feet from the creature with their estimate of height being 7ft 6inches...the only known measurement is the creatures foot...We had a licensed surveyor, Don Mac, do our measuring using a known measurement...her foot...count the rings on the tree
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March 8th, 2010, 8:34 pm #10

Do some comparing...the first is from the second sequence while the second photo is from the first...something important...we know by film that it appears to be a female in the second sequence while during the first sequence of filming all we have is the back of the creature...notice the last frame in the first sequence...this creature appears to go down at the edge of the tree line...MK saw this years ago with us thinking the PNW creatures were quadrupedal similar to ours in the south...they are not...if they were we would see them hit all fours and get the hexx out of this bowl...also notice the toe push in the first photo...



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