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Shelia aka Shewolf
Shelia aka Shewolf

August 10th, 2012, 11:19 pm #1

About 5 years ago my boyfriend and I had an encounter that left me a bit disturbed at the time. Now prior to this particular encounter I had heard these animals mimic deer bleats, owls, crows, cows,coyote howls, wild hogs and a few other wild animal sounds. They are excellent mimics but do sound a bit "offkey" when mimicing other animals. The encounter went like this.
My boyfriend, Jason, is not as woods savvy as I am, he didn't grow up hunting or fishing but he took to looking for BF sign like a duck takes to water. I worried about him in the woods then and now still do but not as much as I used to.
The day in question was in late September, the weather was great and we decided to take a stroll to see if our Clans had returned from their late summer haunts. When the creek dries up they leave and then return when it starts flowing again. I was scouting the edges of "The Dead Zone" and Jason took off for parts unknown across the creek, I told him to stay within hollering distance so that if he found something interesting he could holler at me and I'd come take a look. Well we'd been in our separate areas for about an hour and I hollered at Jason basically to see where he was, he answered me so I answered back "just checking" and went on about my business.
More time passed and I hollered at him again to locate him, he answered and once again I told him " just checking". I moved up the creek to the north end of the property to check out one of the wooded areas in the general area that I had heard Jason answer from but still on the opposite side of the creek from him. About 30 minutes after I hollered at him the second time I heard him holler "Yeah!" I didn't answer him and a few more minutes passed he hollered "Yeah" again. I thought that was strange after thinking about it for a few minutes so I was just fixin to holler at him when he hollered at me to meet him at the bridge. I answered him, told him "OK" and in a few minutes we met at the bridge. When I got there he was annoyed and asked me why I had kept hollering at him and then not answering.
The conversation went like this:
Jason: "Why did you keep hollering at me and then not answering me when I hollered back?"
Me : "I only hollered at you twice and I answered back both times."
Jason: " No you didn't you hollered at me several times and you wouldn't answer me back so I just quit answering you."
Me: "No, I only hollered at you twice."
Jason: "Then who was hollering at me, there is only the two of us on this place."
Me: "I dunno but it wasn't me."
(Silence for a few minutes)
Jason: "Do the Monkeys talk?"
Me: "Not that I'm aware of unless you're Janice Coy." "At least not in english."
Jason: "What if they can?"
Me: " I'm not even going to speculate on that."
Jason: "Why not?"
Me: "Because that would mean one of two things, either they are capable of human speech and understand what they are saying in the same sense or similar to the way we do or that they mimic what they hear with minimal understanding much the same way a parrot does." " To be perfectly honest neither idea sets well in my head." " Let's just drop this whole conversation and see what else we can find."
Jason wasn't really interested in letting this subject matter go but when I simply refused to talk about it he finally gave up. We moved back up the creek into a heavily wooded area and decided to take a break. We sat down on an old log and were sitting there smoking a cigarette and talking when I heard a voice say "Jason" Actually it was said like "JAY-SON". I jumped up off the log and turned around as the voice came from behind us. I got cold chills and then a hot flush when my adrenalin kicked in, LOL Jason is still sitting on the log with a smug look on his face. He said " I told you."
Then again the voice said "JAY-SON" only this time from another area but still close. The voice was somewhat gutteral but definitely understandable.
Then a third time "JAY-SON" from the same area as the second time. Ok I had had it, I told Jason that it was time to go and I guess the look on my face told him there was no need to argue so we left and went back to the house. The "Jason BF" is still here and from time to time we will still hear that gutteral voice say Jason's name.


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scott from philly
scott from philly

August 11th, 2012, 12:27 am #2

would freak the hell out of me.....and I would not be back in those woods without a golfbag full of guns

I would hope they are more like the parrot....but I know that through facial expressions, they can get a point across
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Crispy
Crispy

August 11th, 2012, 1:33 am #3

About 5 years ago my boyfriend and I had an encounter that left me a bit disturbed at the time. Now prior to this particular encounter I had heard these animals mimic deer bleats, owls, crows, cows,coyote howls, wild hogs and a few other wild animal sounds. They are excellent mimics but do sound a bit "offkey" when mimicing other animals. The encounter went like this.
My boyfriend, Jason, is not as woods savvy as I am, he didn't grow up hunting or fishing but he took to looking for BF sign like a duck takes to water. I worried about him in the woods then and now still do but not as much as I used to.
The day in question was in late September, the weather was great and we decided to take a stroll to see if our Clans had returned from their late summer haunts. When the creek dries up they leave and then return when it starts flowing again. I was scouting the edges of "The Dead Zone" and Jason took off for parts unknown across the creek, I told him to stay within hollering distance so that if he found something interesting he could holler at me and I'd come take a look. Well we'd been in our separate areas for about an hour and I hollered at Jason basically to see where he was, he answered me so I answered back "just checking" and went on about my business.
More time passed and I hollered at him again to locate him, he answered and once again I told him " just checking". I moved up the creek to the north end of the property to check out one of the wooded areas in the general area that I had heard Jason answer from but still on the opposite side of the creek from him. About 30 minutes after I hollered at him the second time I heard him holler "Yeah!" I didn't answer him and a few more minutes passed he hollered "Yeah" again. I thought that was strange after thinking about it for a few minutes so I was just fixin to holler at him when he hollered at me to meet him at the bridge. I answered him, told him "OK" and in a few minutes we met at the bridge. When I got there he was annoyed and asked me why I had kept hollering at him and then not answering.
The conversation went like this:
Jason: "Why did you keep hollering at me and then not answering me when I hollered back?"
Me : "I only hollered at you twice and I answered back both times."
Jason: " No you didn't you hollered at me several times and you wouldn't answer me back so I just quit answering you."
Me: "No, I only hollered at you twice."
Jason: "Then who was hollering at me, there is only the two of us on this place."
Me: "I dunno but it wasn't me."
(Silence for a few minutes)
Jason: "Do the Monkeys talk?"
Me: "Not that I'm aware of unless you're Janice Coy." "At least not in english."
Jason: "What if they can?"
Me: " I'm not even going to speculate on that."
Jason: "Why not?"
Me: "Because that would mean one of two things, either they are capable of human speech and understand what they are saying in the same sense or similar to the way we do or that they mimic what they hear with minimal understanding much the same way a parrot does." " To be perfectly honest neither idea sets well in my head." " Let's just drop this whole conversation and see what else we can find."
Jason wasn't really interested in letting this subject matter go but when I simply refused to talk about it he finally gave up. We moved back up the creek into a heavily wooded area and decided to take a break. We sat down on an old log and were sitting there smoking a cigarette and talking when I heard a voice say "Jason" Actually it was said like "JAY-SON". I jumped up off the log and turned around as the voice came from behind us. I got cold chills and then a hot flush when my adrenalin kicked in, LOL Jason is still sitting on the log with a smug look on his face. He said " I told you."
Then again the voice said "JAY-SON" only this time from another area but still close. The voice was somewhat gutteral but definitely understandable.
Then a third time "JAY-SON" from the same area as the second time. Ok I had had it, I told Jason that it was time to go and I guess the look on my face told him there was no need to argue so we left and went back to the house. The "Jason BF" is still here and from time to time we will still hear that gutteral voice say Jason's name.

That sounds about right. Thanks for sharing!
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Monty Koontz III
Monty Koontz III

August 11th, 2012, 3:09 am #4

About 5 years ago my boyfriend and I had an encounter that left me a bit disturbed at the time. Now prior to this particular encounter I had heard these animals mimic deer bleats, owls, crows, cows,coyote howls, wild hogs and a few other wild animal sounds. They are excellent mimics but do sound a bit "offkey" when mimicing other animals. The encounter went like this.
My boyfriend, Jason, is not as woods savvy as I am, he didn't grow up hunting or fishing but he took to looking for BF sign like a duck takes to water. I worried about him in the woods then and now still do but not as much as I used to.
The day in question was in late September, the weather was great and we decided to take a stroll to see if our Clans had returned from their late summer haunts. When the creek dries up they leave and then return when it starts flowing again. I was scouting the edges of "The Dead Zone" and Jason took off for parts unknown across the creek, I told him to stay within hollering distance so that if he found something interesting he could holler at me and I'd come take a look. Well we'd been in our separate areas for about an hour and I hollered at Jason basically to see where he was, he answered me so I answered back "just checking" and went on about my business.
More time passed and I hollered at him again to locate him, he answered and once again I told him " just checking". I moved up the creek to the north end of the property to check out one of the wooded areas in the general area that I had heard Jason answer from but still on the opposite side of the creek from him. About 30 minutes after I hollered at him the second time I heard him holler "Yeah!" I didn't answer him and a few more minutes passed he hollered "Yeah" again. I thought that was strange after thinking about it for a few minutes so I was just fixin to holler at him when he hollered at me to meet him at the bridge. I answered him, told him "OK" and in a few minutes we met at the bridge. When I got there he was annoyed and asked me why I had kept hollering at him and then not answering.
The conversation went like this:
Jason: "Why did you keep hollering at me and then not answering me when I hollered back?"
Me : "I only hollered at you twice and I answered back both times."
Jason: " No you didn't you hollered at me several times and you wouldn't answer me back so I just quit answering you."
Me: "No, I only hollered at you twice."
Jason: "Then who was hollering at me, there is only the two of us on this place."
Me: "I dunno but it wasn't me."
(Silence for a few minutes)
Jason: "Do the Monkeys talk?"
Me: "Not that I'm aware of unless you're Janice Coy." "At least not in english."
Jason: "What if they can?"
Me: " I'm not even going to speculate on that."
Jason: "Why not?"
Me: "Because that would mean one of two things, either they are capable of human speech and understand what they are saying in the same sense or similar to the way we do or that they mimic what they hear with minimal understanding much the same way a parrot does." " To be perfectly honest neither idea sets well in my head." " Let's just drop this whole conversation and see what else we can find."
Jason wasn't really interested in letting this subject matter go but when I simply refused to talk about it he finally gave up. We moved back up the creek into a heavily wooded area and decided to take a break. We sat down on an old log and were sitting there smoking a cigarette and talking when I heard a voice say "Jason" Actually it was said like "JAY-SON". I jumped up off the log and turned around as the voice came from behind us. I got cold chills and then a hot flush when my adrenalin kicked in, LOL Jason is still sitting on the log with a smug look on his face. He said " I told you."
Then again the voice said "JAY-SON" only this time from another area but still close. The voice was somewhat gutteral but definitely understandable.
Then a third time "JAY-SON" from the same area as the second time. Ok I had had it, I told Jason that it was time to go and I guess the look on my face told him there was no need to argue so we left and went back to the house. The "Jason BF" is still here and from time to time we will still hear that gutteral voice say Jason's name.

And a little scary in a way. I would love to have experiences similiar to what some of you seem to have. I really want to see one.
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SAsquatcher
SAsquatcher

August 11th, 2012, 12:07 pm #5

would freak the hell out of me.....and I would not be back in those woods without a golfbag full of guns

I would hope they are more like the parrot....but I know that through facial expressions, they can get a point across
I think that if they can mimic horses and deer and elk and pigs and stuff, why not simple words ?
She called his name twice and they figured out that she was using that "Jason" sound to locate him, so they just took that and ran with it.
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Shelia aka Shewolf
Shelia aka Shewolf

August 11th, 2012, 1:22 pm #6

would freak the hell out of me.....and I would not be back in those woods without a golfbag full of guns

I would hope they are more like the parrot....but I know that through facial expressions, they can get a point across
I usually don't go into the woods with a firearm unless it's deer season or the Clans AREN'T here. When they are here the wild hogs aren't and when they aren't here the wild hogs move in. I'm more concerned about the hogs that I am the Monkeys.
Speaking of which, I know at MC, OK, Sabine County and other places these critters show quite a bit of aggression towards folks and other than the two rogue males that have passed through here my Clans don't show aggression towards me. I have often speculated on why that is and have come up with no real answer. Ideas anyone?
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scott from philly
scott from philly

August 11th, 2012, 5:42 pm #7

I think that if they can mimic horses and deer and elk and pigs and stuff, why not simple words ?
She called his name twice and they figured out that she was using that "Jason" sound to locate him, so they just took that and ran with it.
same page, I emant that while intelligent and knowing their surroundings, I would think mimic....just hearing it mimic a voice would defintely pucker the behind...
I know some have heard some sort of language, that is possible also....
I know one I saw I had a rifle pointed at it, and it gave me a look like you better be damn sure you connect, or you will be a grease spot....message received, zero distortion on my end.....I cant think of anything else that has scared me in my life as much, dont consider myself as not having courage, but kept me out of a place in the woods that I loved for over 20 years, and now when I have gone back, have packed extra heavy (50 cal Beowulf, 10 shot clip, and a colt python), and never gone alone....and never seen or heard any sign of it again....
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SAsquatcher
SAsquatcher

August 11th, 2012, 11:01 pm #8

There are folks on here that will put labels on you if you show the slightest sign of intimidation.
I know from experience.
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Monty Koontz III
Monty Koontz III

August 12th, 2012, 3:33 am #9

I usually don't go into the woods with a firearm unless it's deer season or the Clans AREN'T here. When they are here the wild hogs aren't and when they aren't here the wild hogs move in. I'm more concerned about the hogs that I am the Monkeys.
Speaking of which, I know at MC, OK, Sabine County and other places these critters show quite a bit of aggression towards folks and other than the two rogue males that have passed through here my Clans don't show aggression towards me. I have often speculated on why that is and have come up with no real answer. Ideas anyone?
Would be interesting to see if there is any relationship between BF clans that are sociable in an area where they are not bothered or threatened, verses clans that show aggression being in areas where they have been shot, shot at or otherwised chased and harrased.....
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Monty Koontz III
Monty Koontz III

August 12th, 2012, 4:14 am #10

About 5 years ago my boyfriend and I had an encounter that left me a bit disturbed at the time. Now prior to this particular encounter I had heard these animals mimic deer bleats, owls, crows, cows,coyote howls, wild hogs and a few other wild animal sounds. They are excellent mimics but do sound a bit "offkey" when mimicing other animals. The encounter went like this.
My boyfriend, Jason, is not as woods savvy as I am, he didn't grow up hunting or fishing but he took to looking for BF sign like a duck takes to water. I worried about him in the woods then and now still do but not as much as I used to.
The day in question was in late September, the weather was great and we decided to take a stroll to see if our Clans had returned from their late summer haunts. When the creek dries up they leave and then return when it starts flowing again. I was scouting the edges of "The Dead Zone" and Jason took off for parts unknown across the creek, I told him to stay within hollering distance so that if he found something interesting he could holler at me and I'd come take a look. Well we'd been in our separate areas for about an hour and I hollered at Jason basically to see where he was, he answered me so I answered back "just checking" and went on about my business.
More time passed and I hollered at him again to locate him, he answered and once again I told him " just checking". I moved up the creek to the north end of the property to check out one of the wooded areas in the general area that I had heard Jason answer from but still on the opposite side of the creek from him. About 30 minutes after I hollered at him the second time I heard him holler "Yeah!" I didn't answer him and a few more minutes passed he hollered "Yeah" again. I thought that was strange after thinking about it for a few minutes so I was just fixin to holler at him when he hollered at me to meet him at the bridge. I answered him, told him "OK" and in a few minutes we met at the bridge. When I got there he was annoyed and asked me why I had kept hollering at him and then not answering.
The conversation went like this:
Jason: "Why did you keep hollering at me and then not answering me when I hollered back?"
Me : "I only hollered at you twice and I answered back both times."
Jason: " No you didn't you hollered at me several times and you wouldn't answer me back so I just quit answering you."
Me: "No, I only hollered at you twice."
Jason: "Then who was hollering at me, there is only the two of us on this place."
Me: "I dunno but it wasn't me."
(Silence for a few minutes)
Jason: "Do the Monkeys talk?"
Me: "Not that I'm aware of unless you're Janice Coy." "At least not in english."
Jason: "What if they can?"
Me: " I'm not even going to speculate on that."
Jason: "Why not?"
Me: "Because that would mean one of two things, either they are capable of human speech and understand what they are saying in the same sense or similar to the way we do or that they mimic what they hear with minimal understanding much the same way a parrot does." " To be perfectly honest neither idea sets well in my head." " Let's just drop this whole conversation and see what else we can find."
Jason wasn't really interested in letting this subject matter go but when I simply refused to talk about it he finally gave up. We moved back up the creek into a heavily wooded area and decided to take a break. We sat down on an old log and were sitting there smoking a cigarette and talking when I heard a voice say "Jason" Actually it was said like "JAY-SON". I jumped up off the log and turned around as the voice came from behind us. I got cold chills and then a hot flush when my adrenalin kicked in, LOL Jason is still sitting on the log with a smug look on his face. He said " I told you."
Then again the voice said "JAY-SON" only this time from another area but still close. The voice was somewhat gutteral but definitely understandable.
Then a third time "JAY-SON" from the same area as the second time. Ok I had had it, I told Jason that it was time to go and I guess the look on my face told him there was no need to argue so we left and went back to the house. The "Jason BF" is still here and from time to time we will still hear that gutteral voice say Jason's name.

I once heard a noise down at the river (Mud River in Milton WV, and you can edit this part out if you want) while night fishing for some channel cats that sounded very similiar to train wheels screeching on the metal rails, but ended in a very low guttural growl.
The young man fishing with me asked what the #&!! was that, and I simply responded that it was the train. He said something to the effect of how trains don't growl, and the train wasn't even moving, which I already knew. He wanted to leave, I wanted to stay, so he wasted no time building a fire.
I have heard one other "vocalization" that sounded like a screech-owl screeching at first and ended in a growl, but it did not sound the same as what I heard down at the river. The sound at the river sounded like a train on the tracks with the low rumbling growl at the end, a very "metallic" sounding screech. It was about 300 yards or so from the RR tracks.
What do you think??
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