NWCFL could be decided by an extra game

NWCFL could be decided by an extra game

Tufty
Tufty

April 26th, 2012, 2:32 pm #1

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
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ste b
ste b

April 26th, 2012, 3:36 pm #2

agreed tufty.so ramsbottom are 2 points ahead going into this weekends final games.to replay that match if they finish below is wrong.its the league bascially saying to town you will not win the league from ramsbottom.you are not part of lancashire you are a team from outside lancashire and you cannot and will not win this league at any cost.its wrong.totally wrong.nwcl you have ****** up big style.just take the point of bootle add it onto ramsbottoms total and the tittle race is still on for the last game of the season with this now in play it takes all of that away.well done nwcl you ****** us over you bastards.
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Tufty
Tufty

April 26th, 2012, 3:54 pm #3

The league have cocked up on this big time. What the league are saying is - if Ramsbottom dont win on Saturday then they replay the Bootle game. Yet if Ramsbottom win on Saturday and Town win on Saturday, then Ramsbottom win the league by a point. The point they will win it by, is the point that they wont recognise if Ramsbottom lose on Saturday. So the league have to replay the game given those circumstances. They either have to decide now that the point stands no matter what the result on Saturday or have to decide that a replay will take place no matter what the result is on Saturday.

You can almost guarantee that Ramsbottom will win the league by one point.
Yet if they replayed the Bootle game and lost that game, then they would actually lose the league on goal difference.
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alan
alan

April 26th, 2012, 4:09 pm #4

Good points as usual from tufty.
I forgot all about last seasons situation re: Abbey Hey
Runcorn Town could appeal on your points ?
Bootle have a lot to answer for it seems especially after all the shite they put on their website about member clubs.
About time the league took them to task.
Perhaps they should be relegated !

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Probable board member
Probable board member

April 26th, 2012, 4:31 pm #5

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
"The FA has advised that if the result of the Ramsbottom United v Bootle game would affect Ramsbottom's promotion chances, the Club would then have the right of appeal. "

if rammy have the right to appeal then the fa are saying town would also have the same right to appeal if the replayed game affects there promotion chance's.
this is one big mess, the should just deduct points from bootle and leave it at that.
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Probable board member
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April 26th, 2012, 5:21 pm #6

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
so bootle have been charged in accordance with FA rules.
The FA has advised that if the result of the Ramsbottom United v Bootle game would affect Ramsbottom's promotion chances, the Club would then have the right of appeal.
this should of been left to run its course and then ramsbottom could appeal if they felt the need to.
it looks like the league are doing there best to get rammsbottom promoted.
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Probable board member
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April 26th, 2012, 9:35 pm #7

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
This is a truly shocking scenario, you can see it from both sides but surely there is a precedent set when Town had points deducted etc

I feel for Town I really do they should be up against it going into arguably the biggest game of thier season.
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Probable board member
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April 26th, 2012, 11:50 pm #8

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
Agree with above, with the fixture mess for Bacup/Norton, and now this.....poor from NWCL.

As mentioned, there was an other case like this last year with Town being deducted 3 points - but what happened to Abbey Hey in that situation - isnt that more relevant (ie, Rammy are in the position that Abbey were in). I know RT were deducted the 3 points they won in that game (I presume they won) - but then did Abbey get those 3 points? If so - surely Rammy should get the extra 2 points from the original draw with Bootle?

Either way - all this happening 2 days before the last game (billed as the 'down to the wire' game) after years of the league being over by xmas - just paints the NWCL in a poor position.

Can you imagine the Premier League saying to Utd on Sat they can replay the Wigan game if they lose to City on Monday night.......well actually maybe they could!
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3rd fella with a disheartened dog
3rd fella with a disheartened dog

April 27th, 2012, 5:59 am #9

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
Abbey Hey didnt get the points. The offending team just got punished.
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Barry
Barry

April 27th, 2012, 6:32 am #10

http://www.nwcfl.com/news/2060/15/Annou ... Bootle.htm

Now I dont see how this extra game can actually be allowed.
Last season, Runcorn Town had 3 points deduccted for playing an ineligible player in the opening day victory over Abbey Hey.
They didnt get a chance to replay the game, something which could have effected the league tables etc.
Who knows, had that game been replayed and Runcorn Town had the 3 points earlier in the season, then the title race last season could have been different.

Surely this precedent means that the result should be that Bootle simply lose the point gained.
The league have totally fudged the issue. If this were any other game, Bootle lose the point, Ramsbottom keep their's, job done.

However, given that the league are hell bent on replaying the Rammy vs Bootle game the ruling should have been..."If Ramsbottom fail to finish in first OR EQUAL the result of Runcorn Town on Saturday the game will be replayed." Don't forget if you replay the game...Runcorn are top going into Saturday because RU lose the point gained in the match to be replayed. The result of the RU vs B game is just as pivotal to RT's chances of promotion so they should have right to appeal too. This mirrors Tufty's earlier point that Ramsbottom might lose against Bootle in the replayed game and RT are champions.

The real answer? RU and RT agree a BINDING course of action (to prevent either challenging it afterwards) and tell the league.

Bootle lose the point and Saturday is the decider.

And we have Bootle's secretary shot at dawn for allowing the inelligible player to be played (especially with the fail safe's the league have to prevent this now)
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