Ex Runcorn FC Player

Ex Runcorn FC Player

Tufty
Tufty

June 13th, 2011, 1:59 pm #1

Stephen Ayre, now manager at Rochdale.
Superb defender for Runcorn FC.
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eddie
eddie

June 14th, 2011, 5:53 pm #2

Do you mean the real Runcorn FC or one of the others?
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Probable board member
Probable board member

June 15th, 2011, 12:44 pm #3

There is only one Runcorn FC. (a club which folded when it left Canal Street)
Then you have Runcorn Linnets, a club who have tried to steal the history of Runcorn FC and then you have Runcorn Town, a club trading on their own merit and achievement.
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Probable board member

June 15th, 2011, 1:30 pm #4

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eddie
eddie

June 15th, 2011, 9:39 pm #5

Stephen Ayre, now manager at Rochdale.
Superb defender for Runcorn FC.
I guess you are saying Runcorn should have stayed at Canal St ?
You have also hit a very sore point with someone.
Canal St will never die but it is fading fast.
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Tufty
Tufty

June 16th, 2011, 9:57 am #6

The Canal Street situation can be looked on a lot different with hindsight.
Hindsight can also present options that were ignored at the time.

The Doc was tempted by the perceived riches of the Halton Stadium, getting giddy over the thought of crowds in excess of 3,000 (Yet there was never any evidence to suggest how he came to them figures). The Doc and Burgess then even started to show contempt for existing supporters, with Burgess telling hardcore fans in the Linnets club that they were no longer needed, following the free game at the Halton Stadium that attracted 900 fans.
You had people such as Derek Greenwood trying to head a campaign against a move to Widnes, yet he was the first person over there for the free trial game, basically killing off any form of protest/opposition and pissing on the supporters he was supposed to represent as head of FIRST. Was it to much to miss one game and fight for alleged principals?

HINDSIGHT - Looking at the land around Canal Street, the club could have sold the training pitch, car park, bowling green and Linnets club to a developer and apartments similar to what is on that space could have been built. That would have allowed for the ground to have remained and the VP lounge used as the social club. A more enterprising chairman would have even developed the apartments themselves, making profit on the sale of each one (dont tell that to Wrexhams chairman!).

There was interest in Canal Street from leading supermarkets, yet the council didnt want to push that through as they claimed it would have taken trade away from the Old Town and from existing stores at The Shopping City.
In hindsight (Again its great to have it), a shopping development on Canal Street would have been exactly what the Old Town needed in terms of attracting people to the area. The council has since done a great job of killing off the Old Town as a shopping area itself. Whilst at the same time developing a Morrisons and an Asda right next to the traditional shopping town centre in Widnes (Now even adding a Tesco right next door to 2 existing supermarkets!). Not for the first time applying different rulings to Runcorn as it did to Widnes.

At the time, The Old Club had plans for a new stadium development at both Pavillions and at Halton Sports. If the Doc hadnt have been Widnes motivated, then the club could have pushed for a ground in Runcorn.
The existing stands, fences, turnstiles etc from Canal Street could have been used to develop a new facility within Runcorn, rather then sold of for scrap metal. A supermarket sale would have left the club with a profit on the sale of the land.
You could have had a situation where the old facilities were used to build a new ground at say Halton Sports, with a bit of help from the council, while the club played for a season at Widnes.
A development at Pavillions could have led to Runcorn FC remaining in the Town and resulted in one strong club, rather than thecurrent situation of 2 clubs.

The way the club left Canal Street gave no option for a future return to Runcorn and in conjunction with the change of the name to Runcorn FC Halton, basically killed off Runcorn FC completely.

Runcorn FC wasnt the first club to fold and sadly it wont be the last.
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davis
davis

June 17th, 2011, 4:29 pm #7

Stephen Ayre, now manager at Rochdale.
Superb defender for Runcorn FC.
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ernie
ernie

June 18th, 2011, 12:21 pm #8

Stephen Ayre, now manager at Rochdale.
Superb defender for Runcorn FC.
What a good statement made by tufty, and very accurate in every detail.
What a pity Halton Council don't share your views or use your thoughts.
Perhaps you should consider standing for the council, you will get my vote.
ps I hear the Doc may be back !

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michael newman
michael newman

June 29th, 2011, 10:31 am #9

The Canal Street situation can be looked on a lot different with hindsight.
Hindsight can also present options that were ignored at the time.

The Doc was tempted by the perceived riches of the Halton Stadium, getting giddy over the thought of crowds in excess of 3,000 (Yet there was never any evidence to suggest how he came to them figures). The Doc and Burgess then even started to show contempt for existing supporters, with Burgess telling hardcore fans in the Linnets club that they were no longer needed, following the free game at the Halton Stadium that attracted 900 fans.
You had people such as Derek Greenwood trying to head a campaign against a move to Widnes, yet he was the first person over there for the free trial game, basically killing off any form of protest/opposition and pissing on the supporters he was supposed to represent as head of FIRST. Was it to much to miss one game and fight for alleged principals?

HINDSIGHT - Looking at the land around Canal Street, the club could have sold the training pitch, car park, bowling green and Linnets club to a developer and apartments similar to what is on that space could have been built. That would have allowed for the ground to have remained and the VP lounge used as the social club. A more enterprising chairman would have even developed the apartments themselves, making profit on the sale of each one (dont tell that to Wrexhams chairman!).

There was interest in Canal Street from leading supermarkets, yet the council didnt want to push that through as they claimed it would have taken trade away from the Old Town and from existing stores at The Shopping City.
In hindsight (Again its great to have it), a shopping development on Canal Street would have been exactly what the Old Town needed in terms of attracting people to the area. The council has since done a great job of killing off the Old Town as a shopping area itself. Whilst at the same time developing a Morrisons and an Asda right next to the traditional shopping town centre in Widnes (Now even adding a Tesco right next door to 2 existing supermarkets!). Not for the first time applying different rulings to Runcorn as it did to Widnes.

At the time, The Old Club had plans for a new stadium development at both Pavillions and at Halton Sports. If the Doc hadnt have been Widnes motivated, then the club could have pushed for a ground in Runcorn.
The existing stands, fences, turnstiles etc from Canal Street could have been used to develop a new facility within Runcorn, rather then sold of for scrap metal. A supermarket sale would have left the club with a profit on the sale of the land.
You could have had a situation where the old facilities were used to build a new ground at say Halton Sports, with a bit of help from the council, while the club played for a season at Widnes.
A development at Pavillions could have led to Runcorn FC remaining in the Town and resulted in one strong club, rather than thecurrent situation of 2 clubs.

The way the club left Canal Street gave no option for a future return to Runcorn and in conjunction with the change of the name to Runcorn FC Halton, basically killed off Runcorn FC completely.

Runcorn FC wasnt the first club to fold and sadly it wont be the last.
police protetion for you and your house somebody will get you sooner or later will you never stop before it,s to late.
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