When Was Victor Young Born?

When Was Victor Young Born?

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February 6th, 2012, 7:56 pm #1


Bobbie Fromberg, Victor Young's niece, posted in the thread where we discussed <em>Star Dust. </em>

I looked up Victor Young in the internet and found a discrepancy regarding the year he was born. Wikipedia, the Songwriters Hall of Fame website, IBDB and FindAGrave.com give 1900. IMDB and the Victor Young website (http://victoryoung.czechian.net/) give 1899. They all agree about the day and month, Aug 8, but not the year. So I decided to look him up. Here are my findings.

1900 US Census - Chicago IL - William Young, born Dec 1869 in Russia, profession tailor. Lives with wife (name illegible), born 1869 in Russia and son Abe V., born Aug 1899 in Illinois.

Birth Certificate - Cook County IL. Name: Victor Young; birth date Aug 8, 1899; birth place Chicago, Cook, IL

1930 Census - Chicago IL = Victor Young, age 29, born in IL of Polish parents, profession musician with MGM radio. Lives with wife Rita, age 28, born in Russia of Polish parents. Sister Helen, age 28, born in Illinois, profession music teacher conservatory. Father William, age 61, born in Poland.

I think 1899 is the correct year. Bobby, do you agree?

Albert


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February 6th, 2012, 11:04 pm #2

The Associated Press report of his death in Nov. 1956 stated his age as 56 (born 1900) which might be the source of the discrepancy. To add to the confusion, the marker at the Beth Olam Mausoleum, in LA, where he is buried says "1901 - 1956." A photo of the marker is at the Find a Grave web site.
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February 7th, 2012, 3:41 pm #3

Bobbie Fromberg, Victor Young's niece, posted in the thread where we discussed <em>Star Dust. </em>

I looked up Victor Young in the internet and found a discrepancy regarding the year he was born. Wikipedia, the Songwriters Hall of Fame website, IBDB and FindAGrave.com give 1900. IMDB and the Victor Young website (http://victoryoung.czechian.net/) give 1899. They all agree about the day and month, Aug 8, but not the year. So I decided to look him up. Here are my findings.

1900 US Census - Chicago IL - William Young, born Dec 1869 in Russia, profession tailor. Lives with wife (name illegible), born 1869 in Russia and son Abe V., born Aug 1899 in Illinois.

Birth Certificate - Cook County IL. Name: Victor Young; birth date Aug 8, 1899; birth place Chicago, Cook, IL

1930 Census - Chicago IL = Victor Young, age 29, born in IL of Polish parents, profession musician with MGM radio. Lives with wife Rita, age 28, born in Russia of Polish parents. Sister Helen, age 28, born in Illinois, profession music teacher conservatory. Father William, age 61, born in Poland.

I think 1899 is the correct year. Bobby, do you agree?

Albert


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These were uploaded by Bobby.

http://www.horwitzfamilyhistory.com/photos/bobbie/

Here are a couple of the most fascinating ones.

Victor and sister Helen in 1905.



Victor with father, mother and sister in 1906.



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Bobbie Fromberg
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February 9th, 2012, 2:53 am #4

Bobbie Fromberg, Victor Young's niece, posted in the thread where we discussed <em>Star Dust. </em>

I looked up Victor Young in the internet and found a discrepancy regarding the year he was born. Wikipedia, the Songwriters Hall of Fame website, IBDB and FindAGrave.com give 1900. IMDB and the Victor Young website (http://victoryoung.czechian.net/) give 1899. They all agree about the day and month, Aug 8, but not the year. So I decided to look him up. Here are my findings.

1900 US Census - Chicago IL - William Young, born Dec 1869 in Russia, profession tailor. Lives with wife (name illegible), born 1869 in Russia and son Abe V., born Aug 1899 in Illinois.

Birth Certificate - Cook County IL. Name: Victor Young; birth date Aug 8, 1899; birth place Chicago, Cook, IL

1930 Census - Chicago IL = Victor Young, age 29, born in IL of Polish parents, profession musician with MGM radio. Lives with wife Rita, age 28, born in Russia of Polish parents. Sister Helen, age 28, born in Illinois, profession music teacher conservatory. Father William, age 61, born in Poland.

I think 1899 is the correct year. Bobby, do you agree?

Albert


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Albert, I come from a family that never told the truth about their birth years. Victor was born on August 8, 1899 (I discovered from the 1900 Chicago census)

My Mom made herself 6 years younger than she really was and both of their plaques at Hollywood Forever Cemetery where they are buried facing each other in a mausoleum have incorrect years on them.

Good detective work, Albert.

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February 9th, 2012, 3:54 pm #5

Bobbie Fromberg, Victor Young's niece, posted in the thread where we discussed <em>Star Dust. </em>

I looked up Victor Young in the internet and found a discrepancy regarding the year he was born. Wikipedia, the Songwriters Hall of Fame website, IBDB and FindAGrave.com give 1900. IMDB and the Victor Young website (http://victoryoung.czechian.net/) give 1899. They all agree about the day and month, Aug 8, but not the year. So I decided to look him up. Here are my findings.

1900 US Census - Chicago IL - William Young, born Dec 1869 in Russia, profession tailor. Lives with wife (name illegible), born 1869 in Russia and son Abe V., born Aug 1899 in Illinois.

Birth Certificate - Cook County IL. Name: Victor Young; birth date Aug 8, 1899; birth place Chicago, Cook, IL

1930 Census - Chicago IL = Victor Young, age 29, born in IL of Polish parents, profession musician with MGM radio. Lives with wife Rita, age 28, born in Russia of Polish parents. Sister Helen, age 28, born in Illinois, profession music teacher conservatory. Father William, age 61, born in Poland.

I think 1899 is the correct year. Bobby, do you agree?

Albert


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.... Lord's discography.

Russo and Fiorito's Oriole Orchestra - Chicago, March 12, 1926
<em>I Don't Believe It, But Say It Again</em> Vic 19989 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhl_9Tk6fAo

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February 9th, 2012, 6:29 pm #6

Bobbie Fromberg, Victor Young's niece, posted in the thread where we discussed <em>Star Dust. </em>

I looked up Victor Young in the internet and found a discrepancy regarding the year he was born. Wikipedia, the Songwriters Hall of Fame website, IBDB and FindAGrave.com give 1900. IMDB and the Victor Young website (http://victoryoung.czechian.net/) give 1899. They all agree about the day and month, Aug 8, but not the year. So I decided to look him up. Here are my findings.

1900 US Census - Chicago IL - William Young, born Dec 1869 in Russia, profession tailor. Lives with wife (name illegible), born 1869 in Russia and son Abe V., born Aug 1899 in Illinois.

Birth Certificate - Cook County IL. Name: Victor Young; birth date Aug 8, 1899; birth place Chicago, Cook, IL

1930 Census - Chicago IL = Victor Young, age 29, born in IL of Polish parents, profession musician with MGM radio. Lives with wife Rita, age 28, born in Russia of Polish parents. Sister Helen, age 28, born in Illinois, profession music teacher conservatory. Father William, age 61, born in Poland.

I think 1899 is the correct year. Bobby, do you agree?

Albert


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Ben Pollack and His Californians - Chicago, Dec 9, 1926
<em>When I First Met Mary</em> Vic 20394

http://redhotjazz.com/Songs/pollack/whe ... eetmary.ra

Get a load of some of the musicians in this recording: Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Fud Livingston.

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February 9th, 2012, 10:39 pm #7

Bobbie Fromberg, Victor Young's niece, posted in the thread where we discussed <em>Star Dust. </em>

I looked up Victor Young in the internet and found a discrepancy regarding the year he was born. Wikipedia, the Songwriters Hall of Fame website, IBDB and FindAGrave.com give 1900. IMDB and the Victor Young website (http://victoryoung.czechian.net/) give 1899. They all agree about the day and month, Aug 8, but not the year. So I decided to look him up. Here are my findings.

1900 US Census - Chicago IL - William Young, born Dec 1869 in Russia, profession tailor. Lives with wife (name illegible), born 1869 in Russia and son Abe V., born Aug 1899 in Illinois.

Birth Certificate - Cook County IL. Name: Victor Young; birth date Aug 8, 1899; birth place Chicago, Cook, IL

1930 Census - Chicago IL = Victor Young, age 29, born in IL of Polish parents, profession musician with MGM radio. Lives with wife Rita, age 28, born in Russia of Polish parents. Sister Helen, age 28, born in Illinois, profession music teacher conservatory. Father William, age 61, born in Poland.

I think 1899 is the correct year. Bobby, do you agree?

Albert


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Isham Jones and His Orchestra - Oct 8, 1929, Chicago
<em>Song of the Blues </em>(Composed by Isham Jones) Br 4595

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/rama/BRUC4625.ram

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