What's with Jack Pettis and "Freshman Hop"?

What's with Jack Pettis and "Freshman Hop"?

Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

June 14th, 2010, 9:13 pm #1


"Freshman Hop" is a composition by Jack Pettis and pianist Al Goering. Pettis and Goering played with the Ben Bernie band between 1925 and 1929.

According to Lord's discography, "Freshman Hop" was recorded four times in the 1920s. Here is the discographical information.

<span class="leadername">Jack Pettis</span>

<span class="leadername"></span><span class="musicians">Bill Moore, Mannie Klein (tp) Tommy Dorsey (tb) prob. Paul Weigan (tb) Jack Pettis (c-mel,ts) Len Kavash (cl,as) unknown (cl,as), (ts), Al Goering (p) prob. Carl Kress (g) Merrill Kline (tu,b) Dillon Ober (d,xyl) Eugene Ramey, Erwin McGee, Irving Mills (vcl) </span>


<table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, November 6, 1928</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">48126-1</td><td width="30%">Nobody's sweetheart (er vcl) </td><td>Hist HLP33, WLP 1, Ritz Q1</td></tr><tr><td>48127-2</td><td><span class="search">Freshman hop (em vcl) </span></td><td>Vic 21793, Hist HLP33, WLP 1, Ritz Q1, Broadway</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>115, RCA (Eu)2128558-2 [CD]</td></tr><tr><td>48128-2</td><td>Honolulu blues (em vcl) </td><td>Vic V38026, Broadway 115</td></tr><tr><td>48129-2</td><td>Baby (im vcl) </td><td>   -                -   , Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>Victor V38026, Bluebird B6611 , B7881 as New Orleans Blackbirds.
Eugene Ramey and Erwin McGee may be two of the unidentified members of the personnel.
Historical HLP33 titled "Jazz from New York 1928-1932"; rest of LP by others.
RCA (Eu)2128558-2 [CD] titled "Victor Jazz History, Vol. 4 : New York Jazz"; rest of CD by others.
All above titles also on Retrieval (E)FJ129.
</td></tr></table><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, January 10, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">E-28948</td><td width="30%">Rush Inn blues </td><td>Voc 15769</td></tr><tr><td>E-28949</td><td><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>   -</td></tr><tr><td>E-29050</td><td>I've never been loved by anyone like you </td><td>Voc 15768</td></tr></table></div><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, February 8, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">108645-2</td><td width="30%"><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>Pathe Actuel 37054, Per 15235, Ban 0508, Cam</td></tr><tr><td>(9103-2)</td><td></td><td>0108, Ro 1125, Sunbeam SB107</td></tr><tr><td>108646-2</td><td>Sweetest melody </td><td>Pathe Actuel 36955, Per X-6277, Per 15136, Sunbeam</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>SB107</td></tr><tr><td>108647-2</td><td>Bag o' blues </td><td>Pathe Actuel 37054, Per 15235, Biograph LPC1,</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>Epic LN24045, Col (E)33SX1545, Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>All issues from matrix 9103-2 as Ten Black Diamonds; from 108645-2 and 108647-2 as Ten Freshmen; Pathe Actuelle X-6277 as Jack Pettis and his Orchestra.
</td></tr></table></div><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, February 8, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">401594-B</td><td width="30%"><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>Okeh 41411, Par PNY-34076, Ritz Q1</td></tr><tr><td>401595-D</td><td>Sweetest melody </td><td>    -     , Od (G)SMS3, Time-Life STLJ05</td></tr><tr><td>401596-B</td><td>Bag o' blues </td><td>     41410, Par PNY-34076, Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>Parlophone PNY-34076 as "Jack Binney and his Orchestra".
All above titles also on Epic SN6044, LN24045, Columbia (E)33SX1545, Biograph 1, Retrieval (E)FJ129.</td></tr></table></div>
Note that Pettis and Goering recorded the tune four times within 3 months, twice as Jack Pettis and His Pets, twice with Irving Mills groups!! Bill Moore is also present in all four recordings (I believe he takes the somewhat Bixian trumpet solos), as are Merrill Kline and  Dillon Ober.  Note other jazz giants, Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey, Jack Teagarden, Benny Goodman. Listen (very similar arrangement in the four recordings, available in KCM005/006)) in the order Vocalion, Pathe, Victor and OKeh. 

http://bixography.com/FreshmanHop4Pettis.ram

Take a look at this ad for Jack Pettis and His Pets. (This from Steve Z in Facebook) Note that Bill Moore is mentioned.

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://o.imm.io/GRc.png">

Using a universal calendar, we find that Nov 27 fell on a Wed in 1929. Where was Bach's?

I did not find any other recordings of "Freshman Hop" until <span class="group">Louis Mazetier & Neville Dickie recorded it Live at the Bull's Head in London on May 21, 1994.</span>

<span class="group">A little over a year ago, the New Bix  and his Gang

Andy Schumm, cornet
Dave Bock, trombone
John Otto, clarinet, alto sax
Vince Giordano, bass sax
Paul Asaro, piano
Leah Bezin, banjo
Josh Duffee, drums</span>

<span class="group">played it at the 2009 Tribute to Racine. (Video, courtesy of Bixophile/Forumite Flemming Thorbye).</span>

<span class="group">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=watQ-bhZ8rg</span>

<span class="group">"Freshman Hop" is an excellent tune for a jazz or hot dance band, but, inexplicably, it was recorded only four times in the 1920s and not again until 1994. The new Bix and his Gang gives us an excellent interpretation.</span>

<span class="group">Albert</span>

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June 15th, 2010, 9:06 pm #3

"Freshman Hop" is a composition by Jack Pettis and pianist Al Goering. Pettis and Goering played with the Ben Bernie band between 1925 and 1929.

According to Lord's discography, "Freshman Hop" was recorded four times in the 1920s. Here is the discographical information.

<span class="leadername">Jack Pettis</span>

<span class="leadername"></span><span class="musicians">Bill Moore, Mannie Klein (tp) Tommy Dorsey (tb) prob. Paul Weigan (tb) Jack Pettis (c-mel,ts) Len Kavash (cl,as) unknown (cl,as), (ts), Al Goering (p) prob. Carl Kress (g) Merrill Kline (tu,b) Dillon Ober (d,xyl) Eugene Ramey, Erwin McGee, Irving Mills (vcl) </span>


<table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, November 6, 1928</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">48126-1</td><td width="30%">Nobody's sweetheart (er vcl) </td><td>Hist HLP33, WLP 1, Ritz Q1</td></tr><tr><td>48127-2</td><td><span class="search">Freshman hop (em vcl) </span></td><td>Vic 21793, Hist HLP33, WLP 1, Ritz Q1, Broadway</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>115, RCA (Eu)2128558-2 [CD]</td></tr><tr><td>48128-2</td><td>Honolulu blues (em vcl) </td><td>Vic V38026, Broadway 115</td></tr><tr><td>48129-2</td><td>Baby (im vcl) </td><td>   -                -   , Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>Victor V38026, Bluebird B6611 , B7881 as New Orleans Blackbirds.
Eugene Ramey and Erwin McGee may be two of the unidentified members of the personnel.
Historical HLP33 titled "Jazz from New York 1928-1932"; rest of LP by others.
RCA (Eu)2128558-2 [CD] titled "Victor Jazz History, Vol. 4 : New York Jazz"; rest of CD by others.
All above titles also on Retrieval (E)FJ129.
</td></tr></table><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, January 10, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">E-28948</td><td width="30%">Rush Inn blues </td><td>Voc 15769</td></tr><tr><td>E-28949</td><td><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>   -</td></tr><tr><td>E-29050</td><td>I've never been loved by anyone like you </td><td>Voc 15768</td></tr></table></div><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, February 8, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">108645-2</td><td width="30%"><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>Pathe Actuel 37054, Per 15235, Ban 0508, Cam</td></tr><tr><td>(9103-2)</td><td></td><td>0108, Ro 1125, Sunbeam SB107</td></tr><tr><td>108646-2</td><td>Sweetest melody </td><td>Pathe Actuel 36955, Per X-6277, Per 15136, Sunbeam</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>SB107</td></tr><tr><td>108647-2</td><td>Bag o' blues </td><td>Pathe Actuel 37054, Per 15235, Biograph LPC1,</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>Epic LN24045, Col (E)33SX1545, Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>All issues from matrix 9103-2 as Ten Black Diamonds; from 108645-2 and 108647-2 as Ten Freshmen; Pathe Actuelle X-6277 as Jack Pettis and his Orchestra.
</td></tr></table></div><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, February 8, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">401594-B</td><td width="30%"><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>Okeh 41411, Par PNY-34076, Ritz Q1</td></tr><tr><td>401595-D</td><td>Sweetest melody </td><td>    -     , Od (G)SMS3, Time-Life STLJ05</td></tr><tr><td>401596-B</td><td>Bag o' blues </td><td>     41410, Par PNY-34076, Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>Parlophone PNY-34076 as "Jack Binney and his Orchestra".
All above titles also on Epic SN6044, LN24045, Columbia (E)33SX1545, Biograph 1, Retrieval (E)FJ129.</td></tr></table></div>
Note that Pettis and Goering recorded the tune four times within 3 months, twice as Jack Pettis and His Pets, twice with Irving Mills groups!! Bill Moore is also present in all four recordings (I believe he takes the somewhat Bixian trumpet solos), as are Merrill Kline and  Dillon Ober.  Note other jazz giants, Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey, Jack Teagarden, Benny Goodman. Listen (very similar arrangement in the four recordings, available in KCM005/006)) in the order Vocalion, Pathe, Victor and OKeh. 

http://bixography.com/FreshmanHop4Pettis.ram

Take a look at this ad for Jack Pettis and His Pets. (This from Steve Z in Facebook) Note that Bill Moore is mentioned.

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://o.imm.io/GRc.png">

Using a universal calendar, we find that Nov 27 fell on a Wed in 1929. Where was Bach's?

I did not find any other recordings of "Freshman Hop" until <span class="group">Louis Mazetier & Neville Dickie recorded it Live at the Bull's Head in London on May 21, 1994.</span>

<span class="group">A little over a year ago, the New Bix  and his Gang

Andy Schumm, cornet
Dave Bock, trombone
John Otto, clarinet, alto sax
Vince Giordano, bass sax
Paul Asaro, piano
Leah Bezin, banjo
Josh Duffee, drums</span>

<span class="group">played it at the 2009 Tribute to Racine. (Video, courtesy of Bixophile/Forumite Flemming Thorbye).</span>

<span class="group">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=watQ-bhZ8rg</span>

<span class="group">"Freshman Hop" is an excellent tune for a jazz or hot dance band, but, inexplicably, it was recorded only four times in the 1920s and not again until 1994. The new Bix and his Gang gives us an excellent interpretation.</span>

<span class="group">Albert</span>

<span class="group"></span> 
Steve posted in facebook

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Sk ... %2C5383339

information about the appearance of Jack Pettis and His Pets at Bach's on Nov 27, 1929. Bach's Dancing Academy was located at 134 North Fifth Street, Philadelphia, PA.

Steve writes, "Apparently this was a working band. I thought his were studio groups." So did I.

Now, for my next question, who was "Snowball" sensational entertainer formerly with Paul Whiteman"?

Thanks, Steve.

Albert
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

June 15th, 2010, 10:44 pm #4

"Freshman Hop" is a composition by Jack Pettis and pianist Al Goering. Pettis and Goering played with the Ben Bernie band between 1925 and 1929.

According to Lord's discography, "Freshman Hop" was recorded four times in the 1920s. Here is the discographical information.

<span class="leadername">Jack Pettis</span>

<span class="leadername"></span><span class="musicians">Bill Moore, Mannie Klein (tp) Tommy Dorsey (tb) prob. Paul Weigan (tb) Jack Pettis (c-mel,ts) Len Kavash (cl,as) unknown (cl,as), (ts), Al Goering (p) prob. Carl Kress (g) Merrill Kline (tu,b) Dillon Ober (d,xyl) Eugene Ramey, Erwin McGee, Irving Mills (vcl) </span>


<table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, November 6, 1928</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">48126-1</td><td width="30%">Nobody's sweetheart (er vcl) </td><td>Hist HLP33, WLP 1, Ritz Q1</td></tr><tr><td>48127-2</td><td><span class="search">Freshman hop (em vcl) </span></td><td>Vic 21793, Hist HLP33, WLP 1, Ritz Q1, Broadway</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>115, RCA (Eu)2128558-2 [CD]</td></tr><tr><td>48128-2</td><td>Honolulu blues (em vcl) </td><td>Vic V38026, Broadway 115</td></tr><tr><td>48129-2</td><td>Baby (im vcl) </td><td>   -                -   , Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>Victor V38026, Bluebird B6611 , B7881 as New Orleans Blackbirds.
Eugene Ramey and Erwin McGee may be two of the unidentified members of the personnel.
Historical HLP33 titled "Jazz from New York 1928-1932"; rest of LP by others.
RCA (Eu)2128558-2 [CD] titled "Victor Jazz History, Vol. 4 : New York Jazz"; rest of CD by others.
All above titles also on Retrieval (E)FJ129.
</td></tr></table><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, January 10, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">E-28948</td><td width="30%">Rush Inn blues </td><td>Voc 15769</td></tr><tr><td>E-28949</td><td><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>   -</td></tr><tr><td>E-29050</td><td>I've never been loved by anyone like you </td><td>Voc 15768</td></tr></table></div><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, February 8, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">108645-2</td><td width="30%"><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>Pathe Actuel 37054, Per 15235, Ban 0508, Cam</td></tr><tr><td>(9103-2)</td><td></td><td>0108, Ro 1125, Sunbeam SB107</td></tr><tr><td>108646-2</td><td>Sweetest melody </td><td>Pathe Actuel 36955, Per X-6277, Per 15136, Sunbeam</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>SB107</td></tr><tr><td>108647-2</td><td>Bag o' blues </td><td>Pathe Actuel 37054, Per 15235, Biograph LPC1,</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>Epic LN24045, Col (E)33SX1545, Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>All issues from matrix 9103-2 as Ten Black Diamonds; from 108645-2 and 108647-2 as Ten Freshmen; Pathe Actuelle X-6277 as Jack Pettis and his Orchestra.
</td></tr></table></div><div class="session"><table width="100%" border="0"><tr><td width="30%">  </td><td><span class="location">New York, February 8, 1929</span></td></tr></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0"><tr><td width="15%">401594-B</td><td width="30%"><span class="search">Freshman hop </span></td><td>Okeh 41411, Par PNY-34076, Ritz Q1</td></tr><tr><td>401595-D</td><td>Sweetest melody </td><td>    -     , Od (G)SMS3, Time-Life STLJ05</td></tr><tr><td>401596-B</td><td>Bag o' blues </td><td>     41410, Par PNY-34076, Ritz Q1</td></tr></table><table width="100%"><tr><td valign="top">Note: </td><td>Parlophone PNY-34076 as "Jack Binney and his Orchestra".
All above titles also on Epic SN6044, LN24045, Columbia (E)33SX1545, Biograph 1, Retrieval (E)FJ129.</td></tr></table></div>
Note that Pettis and Goering recorded the tune four times within 3 months, twice as Jack Pettis and His Pets, twice with Irving Mills groups!! Bill Moore is also present in all four recordings (I believe he takes the somewhat Bixian trumpet solos), as are Merrill Kline and  Dillon Ober.  Note other jazz giants, Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey, Jack Teagarden, Benny Goodman. Listen (very similar arrangement in the four recordings, available in KCM005/006)) in the order Vocalion, Pathe, Victor and OKeh. 

http://bixography.com/FreshmanHop4Pettis.ram

Take a look at this ad for Jack Pettis and His Pets. (This from Steve Z in Facebook) Note that Bill Moore is mentioned.

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://o.imm.io/GRc.png">

Using a universal calendar, we find that Nov 27 fell on a Wed in 1929. Where was Bach's?

I did not find any other recordings of "Freshman Hop" until <span class="group">Louis Mazetier & Neville Dickie recorded it Live at the Bull's Head in London on May 21, 1994.</span>

<span class="group">A little over a year ago, the New Bix  and his Gang

Andy Schumm, cornet
Dave Bock, trombone
John Otto, clarinet, alto sax
Vince Giordano, bass sax
Paul Asaro, piano
Leah Bezin, banjo
Josh Duffee, drums</span>

<span class="group">played it at the 2009 Tribute to Racine. (Video, courtesy of Bixophile/Forumite Flemming Thorbye).</span>

<span class="group">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=watQ-bhZ8rg</span>

<span class="group">"Freshman Hop" is an excellent tune for a jazz or hot dance band, but, inexplicably, it was recorded only four times in the 1920s and not again until 1994. The new Bix and his Gang gives us an excellent interpretation.</span>

<span class="group">Albert</span>

<span class="group"></span> 
Nick kindly sends a scan of this delightful poster. Thanks, Nick.



Again, Billy Moore is specifically mentioned, the only of the Pets highlighted! The poster iwas created by an Henri LaMothe. Very creative.

Albert

 
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Steve Zalusky
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June 15th, 2010, 11:05 pm #5

Steve posted in facebook

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Sk ... %2C5383339

information about the appearance of Jack Pettis and His Pets at Bach's on Nov 27, 1929. Bach's Dancing Academy was located at 134 North Fifth Street, Philadelphia, PA.

Steve writes, "Apparently this was a working band. I thought his were studio groups." So did I.

Now, for my next question, who was "Snowball" sensational entertainer formerly with Paul Whiteman"?

Thanks, Steve.

Albert
You're welcome, Albert. I managed to find a lot of other references to Pettis's whereabouts in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Here is the link:http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tribute-t ... 7725818815
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Jon Pytko
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June 16th, 2010, 6:09 am #6

Nick kindly sends a scan of this delightful poster. Thanks, Nick.



Again, Billy Moore is specifically mentioned, the only of the Pets highlighted! The poster iwas created by an Henri LaMothe. Very creative.

Albert

 
I seem to remember some LP's that were offered by Worlds Records in the 1980's, but has there been any comprehensive CD collection of Pettis' group efforts from the late 1920's?
Thanks!
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June 16th, 2010, 11:22 am #7


.... Kings Cross 005/006



Here are the tracks


<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>Up and at 'Em [Take 2]<span class="label t4">[color=#9e9e9e" size="2]</font></span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>Up and at 'Em [Take 3]<span class="label t4"></span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>He's the Last Word<span class="label t4">[color=#9e9e9e" size="2]
[/color]</span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>St. Louis Shuffle [Take 2]<span class="label t4"></span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>St. Louis Shuffle [Take 3]<span class="label t4">[color=#9e9e9e" size="2]
[/color]</span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>Stockholm Stomp<span class="label t4"></span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>It All Depends on You [Take 1]<span class="label t4">[color=#9e9e9e" size="2]
[/color]</span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>It All Depends on You [Take 2]<span class="label t4"></span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div class="inline-player-mini-no"></div></td><td></td><td width="100%"><div class="track"><div>Muddy Water (A Mississippi Moan)<span class="label t4">[color=#9e9e9e" size="2]
[/color]</span></div></div></td><td> </td><td><div class="bt_more"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td></tr></table>

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June 16th, 2010, 11:30 am #8

You're welcome, Albert. I managed to find a lot of other references to Pettis's whereabouts in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Here is the link:http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tribute-t ... 7725818815
Lots of good stuff.

We had many threads about Pettis in the first half of the 2000s. Enrico, I believe, was thinking of writing a biography.

Albert
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June 17th, 2010, 9:48 pm #9

Steve posted in facebook

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Sk ... %2C5383339

information about the appearance of Jack Pettis and His Pets at Bach's on Nov 27, 1929. Bach's Dancing Academy was located at 134 North Fifth Street, Philadelphia, PA.

Steve writes, "Apparently this was a working band. I thought his were studio groups." So did I.

Now, for my next question, who was "Snowball" sensational entertainer formerly with Paul Whiteman"?

Thanks, Steve.

Albert
Steve Z discovered the identity of "Snowball." See

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=IP ... 7%2C490452

With the real name of "Snowball" available, I was able to gather the following from Don Rayno's Whiteman biography.

In the chronology section, Rayno tells us that Whiteman opened at the Ambassador Theatre in St. Louis on Dec 25, 1926 and closed on Dec 31, 1926. On that day Whiteman hired twelve-year old Edwin Snowball<span class="text_exposed_hide">... <span class="text_exposed_link"><a>See More</a></span></span><span class="text_exposed_show"> Harris, an African American dancer. On Jan 9. 1927, the Whiteman band opened at the Allen Theatre in Cleveland. One of the local papers reports that Rinker and Crosby put across several familiar songs in a rousing fashion, while Snowball Harris is especially good in his dancing and banjo specialties. On Jan 30 1927, the Whiteman band opened at Castle Farm in Cincinnati. One of the local papers reports, The offering which seems to meet with the most favor is the dancing of the Black Bottom by Snowball who also picks a mean banjo. Rayno writes, On April 6, 1927 Whiteman appears in West Side Court in New York responding to the charge of permitting a minor to perform on stage. The youngster is Edwin Snowball Harris, a ten-year odl African American lad who had been dancing in Lucky and at the Paul Whiteman Club. April 7, 1927: Charges against Whiteman are dropped by Judge John B. Flood when the orchestra leader agrees to send Harris back to his home in St. Louis.
At the court appearance, Whiteman stated that he thought Snowball was 16. It turns out that the proof of age was Snowballs birth certificate of his older brother.</span>
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The age of Snowball is given as 10 or 12 in Raynos chronology. The Lewiston Evening Journal tells us Snowball was 10.

Two additional articles.

Decatur Daily Review
April 8, 1927
SOCIETY PUTS END
TO 'SNOWBALL'S' LUCK
New York, April S(A.P.) From<span class="text_exposed_hide">... <span class="text_exposed_link"><a>See More</a></span></span><span class="text_exposed_show">
the night clubs o£ New York to the
sidewalks of St. Louisthat's the
trip next on the program for "Snowball"
Harris, 14-year old negro and
his banjo.
"Snowball" can't play the banjo
any more lor Paul Whiteman, band
leader, Magistrate Flood in West
Side court has decided, and agreed
to discharge a complaint against
Snowball's portly employer if he
would pay the boy's fare back home
where he was "discovered" and
hired.
"Snowball" was making $100 a
week here in a musical show, when
the Children's Society cited the law
against the public performance of a minor.

The Abilene Morning News
April 6, 1927
Whiteman Accused
Of Violating Law
(By Universal Service)
NEW YORK, April 5.Paul
Whiteman, the sultan of Syncopation,
and "Snowball' Harris appeared
in court here today.
"Snowball" is that 10-year-old
negro from St. Louis, who divides
honors with Whiteman in one of
Broadway's musical comedies.
Whiteman is accused of employing
a minor. He said that he employed
the youngster in St. Louis and
there was no law against it there.
He also revealed that he pays
"Snowball" $100 a week for his
banjo and Charleston. The case
was adjourned until Thursday.

One article gives 10, the other 14 for the age of "Snowball." I will look up the US Census in the next day or two.</span>

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June 18th, 2010, 10:55 am #10


Thanks to the generosity of Nick, here is a photo of "Snowball."



Nick writes, "The photo is signed to "Mr Blake" - this is Jack Blake, a British trumpet player from the very early days of dance music in London (he was at Rectors Club and the Hammersmith Palais de Danse and knew the ODJB and Bechet). At the time the photo was given to him, Blake was in partnership with Ellis Jackson, a black American trombonist, dancer and singer (who joined Billy Cotton's band in 1931). From the late 1920s until 1931, they had a music hall act called "Blake and Jackson" that interspersed singing and playing with comedy patter, and they even made a Phonofilm short movie, which I have seen (it's very corny but good fun!). Blake's real name was Jack Block and he later ran a pub in North London. Ellis Jackson stayed in England and lived to be nearly 100 - he could still tap dance well into his 90s."

I am amazed at the power of collective research. The question of who was "Snowball" began with an ad found by Steve Z for the appearance of Jack Pettis and His Pets at Bach's in Philadelphia. The ad had a mention of  "Snowball" of fame with Whiteman. Steve  discovered the name of "Snowball" and from then on it was easy to track him down. And now, thanks to Nick we can even see what "Snowball" looked like.

Albert
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