Two versions of Stardust on the same record

Two versions of Stardust on the same record

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December 22nd, 2017, 4:05 pm #1

From Daily Princetonian, Volume 61, Number 83, 20 May 1936

In a novel experiment, Victor presents two sides of Hoagy Carmichael's immortal "Stardust," one swung at a lilting tempo by Benny Goodman, the other slow and sweet by Tommy Dorsey. Of special interest is the inclusion of the personnel of both bands on the label, but sore was our bereavement to find the arrangers' names had been omitted—a very grave error, and one that should be corrected in the next "swing classic" record. We thought Benny's rendition of Fletcher Henderson's orchestration the better job, but still there's plenty of real artistry in the beautiful blending of Dorsey's instrumentalists; Edyth Wright sings a pleasantly melodious vocal backed nicely by some majestically slow and soft saxes, while there is no singing in the Goodman version. Noteworthy in the latter are Benny's clarinet and the stinging brass in the last chorus cymbolistically backed by fabulous Gene Krupa, while the reeds swing with ease and finesse throughout.

BG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM8AUJx59wk

TD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55A02CEKIdo who was the arranger?

And for good measure, here is Artie Shaw's version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUPbA7RFhkU

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Scott
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December 22nd, 2017, 7:08 pm #2

Here is an alternate take (4) I believe of Dorsey's Stardust. Not sure if the performance was bad or the transfer was bad but it doesn't sound too good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Xl57QpC68
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John Coffin
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December 23rd, 2017, 3:41 am #3

From Daily Princetonian, Volume 61, Number 83, 20 May 1936

In a novel experiment, Victor presents two sides of Hoagy Carmichael's immortal "Stardust," one swung at a lilting tempo by Benny Goodman, the other slow and sweet by Tommy Dorsey. Of special interest is the inclusion of the personnel of both bands on the label, but sore was our bereavement to find the arrangers' names had been omitted—a very grave error, and one that should be corrected in the next "swing classic" record. We thought Benny's rendition of Fletcher Henderson's orchestration the better job, but still there's plenty of real artistry in the beautiful blending of Dorsey's instrumentalists; Edyth Wright sings a pleasantly melodious vocal backed nicely by some majestically slow and soft saxes, while there is no singing in the Goodman version. Noteworthy in the latter are Benny's clarinet and the stinging brass in the last chorus cymbolistically backed by fabulous Gene Krupa, while the reeds swing with ease and finesse throughout.

BG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM8AUJx59wk

TD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55A02CEKIdo who was the arranger?

And for good measure, here is Artie Shaw's version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUPbA7RFhkU

Albert
Dave Tough, Max Kaminsky, A. Rollini...(Adrian?)
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Scott
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December 23rd, 2017, 4:13 pm #4

For Goodman that would be his brother Art Rollini
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December 23rd, 2017, 11:14 pm #5

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Mark Gabrish Conlan
Mark Gabrish Conlan

December 25th, 2017, 2:59 am #6

On the above label scan showing Tommy Dorsey's "Stardust" as reissued by RCA Victor, the Spanish translation of "Stardust" is given as "Destello de Estrella." On Louis Armstrong's 1931 recording on Okeh it's "Nostalgia de las Estrellas"!
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December 25th, 2017, 3:31 pm #7

Hoagy's 1927: Estrellitas
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-00006326 ... 00x500.jpg

And a version with French and English lyrics by Jean Sablon. I can't figure out the Breakfast at Tiffany's connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raa1w8R61j4

Albert
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December 25th, 2017, 3:59 pm #8

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John Coffin
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January 1st, 2018, 4:48 pm #9

Hoagy's 1927: Estrellitas
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-00006326 ... 00x500.jpg

And a version with French and English lyrics by Jean Sablon. I can't figure out the Breakfast at Tiffany's connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raa1w8R61j4

Albert
Very odd to arbitrarily link the song to a particular film which has no reference to it at all. And no information about the actual recording.
Google comes up with:
Star Dust by Jean Sablon with Lou Bring and Orchestra, 1938.
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