The Vocalists in “Bless You Sister” and “Dusky Stevedore.”

The Vocalists in “Bless You Sister” and “Dusky Stevedore.”

Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

November 21st, 2009, 9:26 pm #1

<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Sudhalter and Evans
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Tram, Dee Orr, two others
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Rust Jazz Disco19878
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Rust Jazz Disco 2002
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Tram, Dee Orr, Marlin Hurt, Scrappy Lambert
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Evans and Evans, Evans and Kiner, Mosaic Set
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Tram, Dee Orr, Harry Barris, Marlin Hurt
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">According to Evans and Kiner, the back and forth is between Marlin Hurt and Frank Trumbauer.
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Is the fourth vocalist Harry Barris or Scrappy Lambert?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">What I hear.
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Bless You Sister
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">1:22-2:10 Tram and group
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">2:18-2:22 Marlin Hurt
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">2:23-2:27 Tram
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">3:00-3:08 group
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Can anyone identify the individual musicians in the group?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Dusky Stevedore
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">:08-:14 Tram
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">1:29-1:48 Marlin Hurt
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">1:49-2:29 group
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">2:30 Tram on sax
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Can anyone identify the individual musicians in the group? If Tram is part of the group at 1:49-2:29, does he have time to pick up his sax and play after the vocal part?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Here are links to the sound files from Emrah in youtube. By the way, Emrah gives Tram, Dee Orr, Marlin Hurt and Scrappy Lambert as vocalists, same as the latest edition of Rust..
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Dusky Stevedore
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxWpGyDy ... re=related
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Bless You Sister
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fl5b6Z_iMA
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Albert
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> (From Norman Field)
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> (New Rhythm Orchestra!!!)
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November 22nd, 2009, 2:00 pm #2


Scrappy Lambert was born in New Jersey in 1901, attended Rutgers University and started his recording career in New York City. He had recording sessions, relevant to the July 5, 1928 date, with the Goofus Five on June 27, 1928 and with Joe Venuti and His New Yorkers on July 24, 1928, both in New York City.

It is physically possible for Lambert to be in Chicago in July 1928 to record with Bix and Tram, but why would Lambert be in Chicago on July 5, 1928? Lambert was working hard in New York - in 1928 he recorded, among others, with Ben Bernie, Sam Lanin, Red Nichols, the OM5, the California Ramblers, Ben Pollack, etc. A busy guy, doing very well in New York, what would he go to Chicago in early July 1928?

On the other hand, Harry Barris was with Whiteman in June and July 1928, when Whiteman played in Minneapolis and Chicago. And Trumbauer was supposed to use Whiteman musicians in his recording sessions.

Putting all this information together, it is highly likely that Harry Barris was the vocalist in the Jul 5, 1928 session, not Scrappy Lambert.

I have a detailed account of the July 5, 1928 recording session in my article "Drummers in the Recordings of Frank Trumbauer and His Orchestra and of Bix Beiderbecke and his Gang, 1927-1929: An Anomaly and a Hypothesis" <span class="journtitle">IAJRC Journal</span>  <span class="gotoIssue">37:2 (Spring 2004). </span>

<span class="gotoIssue">Albert</span>

<span class="gotoIssue">Scrappy Lambert, ca 1930 from the Mississippi Rag website.</span>

<span class="gotoIssue"><img alt="[linked image]" src="http://www.mississippirag.com/ragonline ... rt-225.jpg"></span>

<span class="gotoIssue">From Dave Garrick's website</span>

<span class="gotoIssue"><img alt="[linked image]" src="http://www.jazzage1920s.com/annettehans ... e-1928.jpg"></span>

<span class="gotoIssue">From the parabrisas website (Harry Barris with guitar)</span>

<span class="gotoIssue"><img alt="[linked image]" src="http://www.parabrisas.com/photos/rhythmboys.jpg"></span>
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John Leifert
John Leifert

November 23rd, 2009, 6:19 pm #3

<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Sudhalter and Evans
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Tram, Dee Orr, two others
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Rust Jazz Disco19878
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">FT-DO + 2
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Rust Jazz Disco 2002
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Tram, Dee Orr, Marlin Hurt, Scrappy Lambert
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Evans and Evans, Evans and Kiner, Mosaic Set
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Tram, Dee Orr, Harry Barris, Marlin Hurt
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">According to Evans and Kiner, the back and forth is between Marlin Hurt and Frank Trumbauer.
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Is the fourth vocalist Harry Barris or Scrappy Lambert?
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">What I hear.
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Bless You Sister
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">1:22-2:10 Tram and group
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">2:18-2:22 Marlin Hurt
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">2:23-2:27 Tram
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">3:00-3:08 group
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Can anyone identify the individual musicians in the group?
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Dusky Stevedore
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">:08-:14 Tram
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">1:29-1:48 Marlin Hurt
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">1:49-2:29 group
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">2:30 Tram on sax
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Can anyone identify the individual musicians in the group? If Tram is part of the group at 1:49-2:29, does he have time to pick up his sax and play after the vocal part?
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Here are links to the sound files from Emrah in youtube. By the way, Emrah gives Tram, Dee Orr, Marlin Hurt and Scrappy Lambert as vocalists, same as the latest edition of Rust..
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Dusky Stevedore
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxWpGyDy ... re=related
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Bless You Sister
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fl5b6Z_iMA
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Albert
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> (From Norman Field)
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> (New Rhythm Orchestra!!!)
I have no idea where the whole "Scrappy Lambert" thing originated, but he's just NOT on these sides! Period!! The sung intro on "Dusky Stevedore" is of course Tram, and the spoken piece around 1:30 into the track is Marlin Hurt - but the vocal trio (it sounds like a trio) could be any of the band members, and according to the You Tube comments below (check the entry in the link), one of the vocalists in the trio could be BIX HIMSELF! I'm, uh, surprised you missed it!

harryoakley (1 day ago) : According to Bill Rank in the 1970's, Bix is also vocalist on this side and its reverse, "Bless You Sister".

There is a wispy tenor singing voice who starts each phrase, "That Dusky"..."His dusky"...(followed by the entire vocal trio) which is completely unfamiliar to me. Amazing to think that this might actually be Bix. If Bill Rank himself said Bix was one of the vocalists on these two sides, I see no reason to dispute it! The question is - what line does he sing? And is there any possible way to find out ?? Probably not. We'll just have to go with Rank's recollections, and take his word for it.

Again, let me come back to "Scrappy Lambert" - for years (in fact I think in the current edition of JR) there is listed a Cotton Pickers Brunswick session with vocalists "Scrappy Lambert - Hoagy Carmichael" for "St. Louis Gal", from 1929. It is no such thing. How this occurred is this: Scrappy has somehow been mis-identified with Marlin Hurt!! This error has self-perpetuated for decades. The high voice (spoken) on "St. Louis Gal" is Marlin Hurt (the same speaker we hear on Dusky Stevedore before the vocal), and the baritone spoken voice (who sings near the end of "St. Louis Gal") is J. RUSSEL ROBINSON !! Comparisons may be made via the many records Robinson made with Al Bernard as "The Dixie Stars", for Brunswick. He has a typical mid-west burr in his voice which is quite reminiscent of Carmichael, and may be inspired by Carmichael, but it clearly is not Carmichael. I posited this years ago in Joslin's Jazz Journal, but nobody replied for or against it. I'd like to bring it out again.

J. Russel Robinson is also the singer on the Cotton Pickers' 1929 Brunswick of "Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo"; Rust still just has a "v" symbol with no identification.

John L
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vince giordano
vince giordano

November 23rd, 2009, 6:50 pm #4

I agree with John Leifert being the other voice on Dusky Stevedore, St. Louis Gal and Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo.

With all the newly digitized trade papers that are coming up, I wonder if someone will find a news item of Marlin Hurt and J. Russel Robinson as a team doing vaudeville, radio or recording ? If this is found maybe some light can be shed on this.

My other J. Russel Robinson un credited vocal [ I think !] is on Linda by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra (Melotone 12024 Nov 7, 1930...recently released on Jazz Oracle BWD 8059)

The vocalist for this side has been reported: Rust lists Harold Arlen (who wrote the tune), Jazz Oracle lists Benny Goodman. I think it's the same fellow who sings on Dusky Stevedore, St. Louis Gal and Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo....J. Russell Robinson.

On the same subject, last year I visited the Sony Archive in NYC and looked up St. Louis Gal, Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo and Linda and the recording sheets list a "v" [for vocal] but no vocal credits......arrrrrhhh !!
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November 23rd, 2009, 7:05 pm #5

I have no idea where the whole "Scrappy Lambert" thing originated, but he's just NOT on these sides! Period!! The sung intro on "Dusky Stevedore" is of course Tram, and the spoken piece around 1:30 into the track is Marlin Hurt - but the vocal trio (it sounds like a trio) could be any of the band members, and according to the You Tube comments below (check the entry in the link), one of the vocalists in the trio could be BIX HIMSELF! I'm, uh, surprised you missed it!

harryoakley (1 day ago) : According to Bill Rank in the 1970's, Bix is also vocalist on this side and its reverse, "Bless You Sister".

There is a wispy tenor singing voice who starts each phrase, "That Dusky"..."His dusky"...(followed by the entire vocal trio) which is completely unfamiliar to me. Amazing to think that this might actually be Bix. If Bill Rank himself said Bix was one of the vocalists on these two sides, I see no reason to dispute it! The question is - what line does he sing? And is there any possible way to find out ?? Probably not. We'll just have to go with Rank's recollections, and take his word for it.

Again, let me come back to "Scrappy Lambert" - for years (in fact I think in the current edition of JR) there is listed a Cotton Pickers Brunswick session with vocalists "Scrappy Lambert - Hoagy Carmichael" for "St. Louis Gal", from 1929. It is no such thing. How this occurred is this: Scrappy has somehow been mis-identified with Marlin Hurt!! This error has self-perpetuated for decades. The high voice (spoken) on "St. Louis Gal" is Marlin Hurt (the same speaker we hear on Dusky Stevedore before the vocal), and the baritone spoken voice (who sings near the end of "St. Louis Gal") is J. RUSSEL ROBINSON !! Comparisons may be made via the many records Robinson made with Al Bernard as "The Dixie Stars", for Brunswick. He has a typical mid-west burr in his voice which is quite reminiscent of Carmichael, and may be inspired by Carmichael, but it clearly is not Carmichael. I posited this years ago in Joslin's Jazz Journal, but nobody replied for or against it. I'd like to bring it out again.

J. Russel Robinson is also the singer on the Cotton Pickers' 1929 Brunswick of "Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo"; Rust still just has a "v" symbol with no identification.

John L
.... there was no mention of Rank reporting that Bix was one of the vocalists. I posted on Nov 21 and referred to Emrah's video of "Dusky Stevedore"; the comment about Rank.was added on Nov 22. When and where did Bill Rank state that Bix was one of the vocalists? Without documentation, that statement is meaningless. Evans (in two biographies, Bix's and Tram's) only mentions that Tram identified Hurt and himself in the "back and forth" in the Jul 5, 1928 recordings. I would be highly surprised if Evans did not know about a comment made by Rank in the 1970s.

In my second posting in this thread, I was skeptical about Scrappy Lambert being in Chicago and recording with Bix and Tram. My conclusion was that Lambert was highly unlikely to be one of the vocalists  in the July 5, 1928 session. We agree on that.

The 2002 edition of Rust gives Marlin Hurt as the vocalist for Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo.

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November 23rd, 2009, 7:38 pm #6

I have no idea where the whole "Scrappy Lambert" thing originated, but he's just NOT on these sides! Period!! The sung intro on "Dusky Stevedore" is of course Tram, and the spoken piece around 1:30 into the track is Marlin Hurt - but the vocal trio (it sounds like a trio) could be any of the band members, and according to the You Tube comments below (check the entry in the link), one of the vocalists in the trio could be BIX HIMSELF! I'm, uh, surprised you missed it!

harryoakley (1 day ago) : According to Bill Rank in the 1970's, Bix is also vocalist on this side and its reverse, "Bless You Sister".

There is a wispy tenor singing voice who starts each phrase, "That Dusky"..."His dusky"...(followed by the entire vocal trio) which is completely unfamiliar to me. Amazing to think that this might actually be Bix. If Bill Rank himself said Bix was one of the vocalists on these two sides, I see no reason to dispute it! The question is - what line does he sing? And is there any possible way to find out ?? Probably not. We'll just have to go with Rank's recollections, and take his word for it.

Again, let me come back to "Scrappy Lambert" - for years (in fact I think in the current edition of JR) there is listed a Cotton Pickers Brunswick session with vocalists "Scrappy Lambert - Hoagy Carmichael" for "St. Louis Gal", from 1929. It is no such thing. How this occurred is this: Scrappy has somehow been mis-identified with Marlin Hurt!! This error has self-perpetuated for decades. The high voice (spoken) on "St. Louis Gal" is Marlin Hurt (the same speaker we hear on Dusky Stevedore before the vocal), and the baritone spoken voice (who sings near the end of "St. Louis Gal") is J. RUSSEL ROBINSON !! Comparisons may be made via the many records Robinson made with Al Bernard as "The Dixie Stars", for Brunswick. He has a typical mid-west burr in his voice which is quite reminiscent of Carmichael, and may be inspired by Carmichael, but it clearly is not Carmichael. I posited this years ago in Joslin's Jazz Journal, but nobody replied for or against it. I'd like to bring it out again.

J. Russel Robinson is also the singer on the Cotton Pickers' 1929 Brunswick of "Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo"; Rust still just has a "v" symbol with no identification.

John L
Rust assigns the vocals to Scrappy Lambert and Hoagy Carmichael. I listened to the recording

http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/cottonp ... isgal1.ram

I agree with you. Rust does not have the correct vocalists. The high voice is very similar to that in Tram's "Dusky Stevedore." And the lower voice is certainly not, I repeat, not Hoagy. As you and Vince tell us, it is most probably J. Russell Robinson.

Albert
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John Leifert
John Leifert

November 23rd, 2009, 7:41 pm #7

I agree with John Leifert being the other voice on Dusky Stevedore, St. Louis Gal and Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo.

With all the newly digitized trade papers that are coming up, I wonder if someone will find a news item of Marlin Hurt and J. Russel Robinson as a team doing vaudeville, radio or recording ? If this is found maybe some light can be shed on this.

My other J. Russel Robinson un credited vocal [ I think !] is on Linda by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra (Melotone 12024 Nov 7, 1930...recently released on Jazz Oracle BWD 8059)

The vocalist for this side has been reported: Rust lists Harold Arlen (who wrote the tune), Jazz Oracle lists Benny Goodman. I think it's the same fellow who sings on Dusky Stevedore, St. Louis Gal and Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo....J. Russell Robinson.

On the same subject, last year I visited the Sony Archive in NYC and looked up St. Louis Gal, Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo and Linda and the recording sheets list a "v" [for vocal] but no vocal credits......arrrrrhhh !!
Hi Vince - and I agree with you as well regarding the vocalist on BG's Melotone of "Linda"!! That midwest burr in the singing voice is shared by Carmichael and Robinson, but it's not BG singing here - it certainly sounds like Robinson to me...

John L
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John Leifert
John Leifert

November 23rd, 2009, 8:27 pm #8

Rust assigns the vocals to Scrappy Lambert and Hoagy Carmichael. I listened to the recording

http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/cottonp ... isgal1.ram

I agree with you. Rust does not have the correct vocalists. The high voice is very similar to that in Tram's "Dusky Stevedore." And the lower voice is certainly not, I repeat, not Hoagy. As you and Vince tell us, it is most probably J. Russell Robinson.

Albert
Thank you Albert. We know that it is clearly Marlin Hurt who is the higher voice on "Dusky Stevedore" by Trumbauer and also the higher voice on the Cotton Pickers' Brunswick of "St. Louis Gal". And - that Scrappy Lambert had nothing to do with either session.

On Tram's "Bless You Sister", the deeper voice is Tram's, and Marlin Hurt is the higher voice.

The question now is: who is the DEEPER voice on "St. Louis Gal" ?? It is quite possible that Hurt does both voices, as some say, but I swear the two voices OVERLAP in more than one spot on this track. There is some sort of pattern with this vocal duo, and possibly Marlin Hurt got another partner to do these vocals by the time of the Cotton Pickers sides. I'm familiar with this side, and there are several takes of it. If I am wrong I will be the FIRST PERSON to admit it.

OK - now I see that the Brunswick file cards seem to have Marlin Hurt as the vocalist on "St. Louis Gal", and even "Linda" by BG (Melotone). But do they tell the whole story? Sometimes (and there is documentation of this) a file card may list a vocalist, and then at the last minute that vocalist did not make it, with another vocalist substituting - but not appearing in the file log notes.

Albert, would you be so kind to provide one (or both) takes of the Cotton Pickers' "St. Louis Gal" for research purposes to the Message Board? If Hurt provides both voices, he was indeed a talented individual. I think we should also have Tram's "Bless You Sister" along with "St. Louis Gal" for the immediate comparison, to see whether or not there is a second voice on "St. Louis Gal".

Sorry if I'm inconveniencing anyone, but I do want to see if I haven't dreamed any of this up...

John L

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John Leifert
John Leifert

November 23rd, 2009, 8:32 pm #9

I agree with John Leifert being the other voice on Dusky Stevedore, St. Louis Gal and Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo.

With all the newly digitized trade papers that are coming up, I wonder if someone will find a news item of Marlin Hurt and J. Russel Robinson as a team doing vaudeville, radio or recording ? If this is found maybe some light can be shed on this.

My other J. Russel Robinson un credited vocal [ I think !] is on Linda by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra (Melotone 12024 Nov 7, 1930...recently released on Jazz Oracle BWD 8059)

The vocalist for this side has been reported: Rust lists Harold Arlen (who wrote the tune), Jazz Oracle lists Benny Goodman. I think it's the same fellow who sings on Dusky Stevedore, St. Louis Gal and Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo....J. Russell Robinson.

On the same subject, last year I visited the Sony Archive in NYC and looked up St. Louis Gal, Shoo Shoo Boogie Boo and Linda and the recording sheets list a "v" [for vocal] but no vocal credits......arrrrrhhh !!
I must check my Rust "Victor Master Book" later when I return home. I think there is an entry of a session with Hurt and Robinson doing a duet, which was REJECTED, around 1928 or 1929. I am only now recalling this. It was not recorded for Brunswick, and not for Columbia. It could also be in JR under "Robinson", or the Complete Entertainment Discography under "Robinson" (or the name of their duo), but this is something I need to do to corroborate whether or not any of this has any relevancy.

I'll keep you all posted.

John L
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John Leifert
John Leifert

November 23rd, 2009, 8:42 pm #10

Rust assigns the vocals to Scrappy Lambert and Hoagy Carmichael. I listened to the recording

http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/cottonp ... isgal1.ram

I agree with you. Rust does not have the correct vocalists. The high voice is very similar to that in Tram's "Dusky Stevedore." And the lower voice is certainly not, I repeat, not Hoagy. As you and Vince tell us, it is most probably J. Russell Robinson.

Albert
I'm sorry - I was rushing through various other projects and saw you had posted "St. Louis Gal" already. Please ignore my previous post - there is no need to post it again, nor "Dusky Stevedore".

However, it turns out that YES - there are indeed TWO voices heard on "St. Louis Gal" !! The first time they overlap are at 1:51, and they overlap repeatedly. It is certain that Hurt is the high voice, but my "contention" is that Robinson is the LOW voice - who also later in the side sings "Down in Missouri there will come a time, when your life won't be worth a dime...". Some say Carmichael, including Hans Eekhoff - but I cannot agree. I have "Dixie Stars" Brunswick records with Al Bernard and Robinson, and on several tracks they do this same type of male / female type of thing. It was a popular type of vocal in those days (Hoagy did it in 1930 on "Rockin' Chair" - he was the deeper voice. I don't recall who did the child's voice on that one...)

So this is why I feel that Robinson is the lower voice. He was deeply associated with the Brunswick label at the time, as well. Anyone who wishes to throw brickbats at me should do so, but I will try to back myself up !!

John L
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